On this episode, we've also got Congressman John Lewis, you know, who we
we've talked about a little bit earlier and you know, you
open the book with you walking across
the Edmund Pettus Bridge with him. I asked - you know,
because one of the things
that were trying to figure out in this episode and we'll
we'll come to no definitive answer because there is no definitive answer.
You know, it's like can our region ever reconcile itself
and be redeemed from the evils of its past.
When I asked - so I asked Congressman Lewis
specifically because I had read and by that
point I had read it at least a dozen times, that opening
chapter of your book, where all that is described
because I found myself just wanting to read it
over and over again. Because I felt like it did my heart good.
You know?
Mmm,.
It gave me some hope.
I know.Yes.
And so I asked him,
and this was only last week, I asked him -
to talk about what it meant to him to walk across that bridge with you,
hand in hand on that day. And if you don't mind I want to, I want
to play what he said to me.
Okay.
To walk across the Edmund Pettus Bridge -
many years later after Bloody Sunday
with Governor Wallace's daughter meant so much.
Not just to me, but to hundreds and thousands of people
all across the south and all across America.
We walked hand in hand and the act made me cry, it made me cry.
It's the ability and the capacity of people can come together,
as brothers and sisters.
How does that make you feel?
Well, I love John Lewis, and everything he is.
He calls me sister and I call him brother.
We grew up 38 miles from each other,
but we were oceans - our lives were oceans apart.
When I crossed that bridge with him, it was a turning point in my life.
Yeah.
Yes.
And he showed me that unconditional love and reconciliation,
and forgiveness - can heal a human heart, and
pull something into you that's good and real.
And he was good and real to me. He pulled me over to the side and we
looked over into water and he said now sister we need to move on.
That to me meant we move forward.
Right.
He's always saying we can't go back,
we have to move forward.
And there y'all went together -
Yes.
on that historic day.
Yes.