We know service is good. But in this video, we're going to dive a little bit
deeper into why serving in our community is important. Of course, I brought back
Devin Thorpe for this conversation. This is an awesome conversation. Let's start
at the basic level to begin with why is serving in our community so important?
-Well, it is for a variety of reasons. But at a fundamental level, one of the things
that I would point out is that we all have a place in our brain that is
activated by altruism or that motivates us to do good for others. It is
a distinctly human trait as far as we can tell. But it's a really powerful need
that we all have. To do some good. And so doing good in the community is a really
powerful way to sort of activate that part of the brain. And I realize
everybody feels that a little bit differently but virtually all of us, feel
that to some degree or another. And we can activate that part of our brains
even if it hasn't been active by engaging in service... -Okay, so I've got a
question that will flip it around then. What are some of the negative impacts
that I might experience if I'm not serving in my community? -Our lives... There
are so many different people and I'm certainly not a psychologist. You and I
know one. You could ask him about this. But my experience in the research
I've done suggests that there is really and truly a level of human satisfaction
that comes from doing good. That if we don't have that in our lives, we're
really missing out. All kinds of data suggests that people who do service and
give service are happier in life. They're happier in their jobs, it's almost
kind of magic. I don't want to dismiss for a minute,
you know, clinical depression and that sort of thing. But clearly, one of the
treatments for depression would be some service to get you out of your own head
a little bit and focused on others. So, yeah. That's an awesome point to
bring in. So, even biologically or just just physically, I will feel
differently. I'll experience life in a different way
whether I'm serving or whatnot. -And most people do. Most people are doing giving some of
their time or money to a cause every year. And so we're really talking about a
minority of people who don't do anything. So, I've got a question for
you. Maybe you can help me out because like there's actually an area where I'm
struggling where... And it's just a mental
struggle. I feel like I love to give but I am also... I also judge quite a
lot. -Mm-hmm. Well when there's a... When there's a panhandler, I'm really
judgmental. And I don't like to give to panhandlers. You know, people on
on the exit ramp on the freeway. And in my mind, I've actually made an
intentional choice instead of giving to people that are on the street corners
asking for money. But I'm going to make an intentional choice ahead of time that
I'm going to be a good tipper for the the waiter or waitress at the restaurant,
for the Uber driver. And part of me still feels guilty for making that choice.
Because it's... I want to give and I love people that are there giving of
themselves. Obviously the person at the restaurant of their Uber driver or
other other places that I can give a tip. Was just in New York there is a tour
guide that I that I went on and they're obviously they have these jobs because
they want money. They're essentially saying... Holding up the sign
saying, "Hey, I need money." And for some reason, I feel great and I love giving to
people in the form of a generous tip. But at the same time, I'm judging people on
the street corner not wanting to give them a tip and I'm judging
they're going to do with the money and choices they made in their lives. So how
can I... -Yeah. So... No, that's a really good setup. And I would point out
that it's really an important lesson to be thinking about most of the people
you're tipping. Not all. Some are quite well-off. But many are not well-off
by your standard, right? They are in a situation where they may or may not have
good health insurance, they may or may not have health insurance for their kids,
you know, who knows the situations. So yes, being a fair, generous tipper is I think
a moral good for sure. I commend you for doing that. Giving to panhandlers is very
controversial. Sadly, there are some panhandlers who are not very hard up. If
someone has a car and a clean warm place to sleep every night and their
panhandling for an income that offends me. Many of the homeless people I
see around aren't actively panhandling. They get a variety of services. Some do.
Especially those that have habits that they need to feed apart from food. So
yeah, it's very controversial. And one of the things that I try to remember and
encourage other people to remember is that they are all human beings. Whether
it is a faker, a manipulator, is panhandling and going home to a warm bed
every night. There's that. I try to remember they're human beings. And they
may not have a much better way to maintain that lifestyle. In our economy,
there are a lot of reasons people are displaced. I would like to think that
they could do better. But on the other hand, you and I know here in Utah, you
don't make $15 now are slinging burgers at McDonald's. If you can make $15 an hour
panhandling, our economy is screwed up. As much as that person is, right? Anyway,
so I try to see them all as human beings. Even those who are addicted to heroin
and there are a lot even here in Salt Lake. Of course who are struggling with
terrible demons. Of course we have some who are mentally ill. And so one way to
cope with that dilemma would be also find an organization that supports
homeless people in a way that you... That aligns with your values. So, there are all
kinds of halfway houses and programs and... So you know, you can give to a homeless
shelter. It helps people get off the street at night so they're not dying of
exposure overnight. Every year in Utah about a hundred people well in Salt
Lake. About a hundred people in Salt Lake die from homelessness every year. By and
large, that doesn't sound like a lot for a big city. But we're only talking about
a population of homeless of chronically homeless people of 500 or a
thousand people. So like, 10 or 20% of them are dying every year. It's a
horrible horrible life of tragic. So, there are all kinds of organizations
that are providing food, shelter, job training, drug treatment. All kinds of
things. And we can and should give to those organizations for sure. You know,
we benefit. We benefit from eliminating homelessness. Homelessness in our
community is a real scourge. And it's expensive. It has a negative impact on
all of us. It's uncomfortable with it as it is for you and I to see it. We have
to remember it's a thousand times worse to experience it. And there are way too
many people in our community who experience it for brief periods of time.
That is clearly a problem of our economy that is sometimes a problem of our
healthy economy, right? Rents go up, home prices go up, wages don't seem to keep up
with inflation very well in our country. It's a country
problem. And so, we're seeing more and more people experiencing homelessness.
Not in a chronic sense like the folks we see downtown that haven't bathed in 6
months, right? It's the people who get evicted from their home because
they can't keep up with rent, something happened. Job interruption,
you know, they got laid off, a health problem. You know, medical problem took
all of their money. I mean, all kinds of different things that we would frankly
say, we're no fault of their own. Puts them out on the street. Now they have no
money for a first and last month's rent and a deposit. And they're homeless. And
they're in the system. So, there are a lot of systemic things that we can be
looking at in our communities. Perhaps the biggest to alleviate at least that
form of homelessness is to look at affordable housing policies. And for
landlords to look at carefully alternatives to eviction. Because
eviction in and of itself creates that cycle. And I think landlords can do more
to avoid that some of the time. And the fewer evictions we have in our community,
it will reduce dramatically. These period people that experience
homelessness for 3 weeks or 3 months as they transition back into
housing. And we need to eliminate those gaps through this a variety of
things. -I can see those being a tough one. I'm not a landlord but I have
done a lot of filming for a real estate investing YouTube channel. And you know,
there's a lot of... There's a lot of risks that you have to mitigate in
order to be profitable on your rental. And so, you know, to bring in that idea of
if you're going to evict somebody, they're going to become homeless. But if
I don't, I'm going to go into the negative on this property.
That's a tough one. The alternative is necessarily not to collect the rent. And
I realize I am a very small sample but my parents had a rental place and the
tenant was 5 months behind. It was a disaster. It took us a year that I went
in. And I was a real jerk/ I'm sure the tenant hates me. But we kept her in that
apartment for 5 years. And of that 5 years, she probably paid the rent on
time in 12 months out of 5 years. She was a candidate for eviction for almost...
Well for 48 months of 60 months. But we kept her in there and yeah, the way I
dealt with it was to be a jerk. I would go over and sometimes yell at her. Get on
the phone and yell. Horrible but we kept her in that house for 5 years.
But there are alternatives to eviction. You know, you can in some cases do it. But
you know, there are a variety of other policies that we need to be do. We need
their federal subsidies available for some housing. But the city's probably
need to be committing resources to this as well.
They don't enough. Even in very liberal Salt Lake City, I don't think the city is
doing nearly enough to create and incentivize affordable housing.
Affordable housing can be profitable. We need regulations that make it easier
for it to be profitable. That may mean code that allows for smaller dwelling
units for more people. Trust me, a family of 4 is happier in 4 hundred
square feet than on the street. So, we need to be really thoughtful about all
of those issues and how they come together. Because if we can keep people
housed, there are all kinds of other peripheral community issues that can
also be avoided, community problems. -Well, I appreciate this discussion. One,
appreciate the discussion on you know what are the benefits of serving in the
community. And then just kind of expanding it that there are there are a
variety of ways of doing it and if there's... In my case, I brought up a way
that you know, I see a problem here but I've got a conflict of how to help there.
And you've pointed out several different ways. You know, there's ways that
we can help with housing and even just... Anyway, so I appreciate that perspective.
Hopefully this video was helpful to you. Share your comments below on the
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