HERE RELATES TO ANOTHER THING BEYOND ANYONE'S COMPREHENSION.
THIS PAST SUNDAY NBC NEWS HAD FRESH REPORTING.
BOB MUELLER HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO BRING CHARGES IN THE MICHAEL
FLYNN INVESTIGATION, COINCIDES WITH REPORTING THIS MORNING FROM
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL," WHICH SAYS THAT ACCORDING TO PEOPLE
FAMILIAR WITH THE INVESTIGATION, MUELLER IS INVESTIGATING AN
ALLEGED PLAN INVOLVING FORMER WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISER MICHAEL FLYNN TO FORCIBLY REMOVE A MUSLIM CLERIC
LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES AND DELIVER HIM TO TURKEY.
UNDER THE ALLEGED PROPOSAL, MICHAEL FLYNN AND HIS SON
JUNIOR, PAID $15 MILLION FOR DELIVERING THIS CLERIC TO
PRESIDENT ERDOGAN. THE BUREAU ASKED AT LEAST FOUR
INDIVIDUALS ABOUT A MEETING IN MID-DECEMBER AT THE 21 CLUB HERE
IN NEW YORK CITY, FLYNN AND THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT
REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED REMOVING THE CLERIC.
BY I SAY REMOVING, KIDNAPPING THE CLERIC.
THOSE DISCUSSIONS ALLEGEDLY INVOLVED THE POSSIBILITY OF
TRANSPORTING HIM ON A PRIVATE JET TO A TURKISH PRISON ISLAND
ACCORDING TO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE TO THE FBI.
A SPOKESMAN FOR MUELLER DECLINED TO COMMENT AND FOR MR. FLYNN AND
FLYNN JR. WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE
EARLIER TODAY. I AMGASTED BY
THIS STORY AS I AM ABOUT THE STORY OF ROY MOORE.
MAKE THIS AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE. PUNITIVE, NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN THE TRANSITION,
BEFORE HE WAS ABOUT TO BECOME THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER
WAS ALLEGEDLY PLOTTING TO KIDNAP AN MUSLIM CLERIC FROM AMERICA TO
PUT HIM IN A TURKISH PRISONWHAT MUELLER IS INVESTIGATING.
I WONDERED YOUR THOUGHTS? I BELIEVE NOTHING ON THIS ORDER,
STRANGE THINGS. >> AS WE SAID EARLIER, COULD THE
BAR GET ANY LOWER? THIS IS AN ASTONISHING
DEVELOPMENT, THE SORT OF THING YOU READ EITHER IN FICTION OR A
THIRD WORLD AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT.
SO -- I MEAN, AND IT JUST TESTIFIES TO HOW BROAD THE NET'S
GOING AND HOW DEEP IT GOES, AND AS YOU'VE SAID ALL ALONG, JOHN,
THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE OR THE END BUT THE BEGINNING OF A NET
THAT IS REALLY GETTING WIDE AND BAD.
>> AND I WANT TO ASK YOU, HEIDI, THIS INVESTIGATION OBVIOUSLY HAS
A LOT OF LEGS. MICHAEL FLYNN HAS BEEN AT CENTER
OF IT PRETTY MUCH FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING UP ON CAPITOL HILL AND ELSEWHERE ABOUT
HOW PEOPLE SEE MUELLER'S FOCUS ON A NUMBER OF TRACKS ON THE
FLYNN INVESTIGATION AND WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR DONALD TRUMP?
>> JUST MAKING IT HARDER TO NOT FACE THE FACTS THAT NOW HAVE TWO
PEOPLE WITH PAUL MANAFORT AND MICHAEL FLYNN NOW WHO MAY HAVE
BEEN ESSENTIALLY ACTING AS FOREIGN AGENTS WHILE THEY WERE
ON THE CAMPAIGN, AND AT A TIME WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING
TO -- OR THIS IS A PRESIDENT, RATHER, WHO CAME IN PROMISING TO
DRAIN THE SWAMP. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE VERY
BOTTOM OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO FIND AT THE WASHINGTON SWAMP.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO -- EVEN IF THIS IS TOTALLY
UNRELATED TO THE TRUMPS, AND LET'S SAY THEY KNEW NOTHING
ABOUT IT, AT A MINIMUM, IT GOES TO WHAT KIND OF VETTING WAS
GOING ON IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND THAT WILL BE QUESTIONS AS WELL
ABOUT WHAT THE TRUMPS AT LEAST KNEW ABOUT IT, EVEN IF THEY
WEREN'T PART OF IT. >> I FEEL WE'RE INTO, IN BORNE
TERRITORY NOW. >> I SAID THAT LAST HOUR.
>> A TRUMP ULTIMATUM. YOU KNOW?
>> THE COMPETENT JASON BORNE. THE FLYNNS WERE NOT GOOD AT
BORNE-ISM. >> ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.
>> AND SOMEHOW WILL LEAD BACK TO RUSSIA.
>> OF COURSE IT IS. >> TO HEIDI'S POINT, THOUGH,
ABOUT VETTING A CAMPAIGN IS A VITTICCAL POINT, WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE NOMINEES FOR MANY, MANY POSTS.
THAT TRUMP PROPOSED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN
PEOPLE, WHO WERE ATTRACTED TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND WORKED IN
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. WHO WOULD HIRE THEM?
>> WELL, NOBODY. WE ACTUALLY -- THAT'S NOT A
JOKE. NOBODY.
AND I THINK THAT STEVE BANNON IN THE INTERVIEW WITH JEREMY PETERS
WE'LL LOOK AT LATER SAID IT WAS AN ISLAND OF MISFIT TOYS.
THE PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN, PART OF THE MISFITS ON THE ISLAND
WITH THE OTHER TOYS SDROIB ONE
DESCRIBE ONE ANOTHER. >> BEARS SAYING AGAIN.
MICHAEL FLYNN, NATIONAL PORTFOLIO SPENT MOST OF THE TIME
ON THE PLANE WITH DONALD TRUMP THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN IN 2015.
HE WAS THE GUY TRUMP LOVED HAVING AROUND, HE WAS CLOSE TO.
AND IN PARALLEL WITH THAT, HE'S ENGAGED IN TRYING TO ENGINEER,
APPARENTLY, AT LEAST MUELLER IS INVESTIGATING THE POSSIBILITY,
THAT HE WAS ENGAGED IN, CREATING A KIDNAPPING AND RENDITION PLOT
FOR THIS MUSLIM CLERIC LIVING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
I FIND IT EXTRAORDINARY. AND REMEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS
TRUMP AND JIM COMEY TALKED ABOUT BEFORE JIM COMEY WAS FIRED THE
NOTION OF TRUMP SAYING TO COMEY, MICHAEL FLYNN IS A GOOD GUY.
LET'S NOT INVESTIGATE HIM. COULDN'T YOU LET THIS GO?
FLYNN'S A GOOD DUDE. >> RIGHT.
>> EXACTLY. AND IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT
NBC'S INVESTIGATIVE UNIT HAS A LOT OF THIS REPORTING ON SUNDAY
OTHER FOLK, CATCHING UP TO THAT BOB MUELLER'S INVESTIGATORS HAVE