>> Bill: GO FIGURE.
NICE TO SEE YOU IF D.C.
>> Dana: GROWING NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS PHASING
OUT MASK MANDATES.
THE WHITE HOUSE IS STILL
PUSHING FOR THAT BECAUSE THE
CDC MAINTAINS IT.
FORMER WISCONSIN GOVERNOR SCOTT
WALKER WE ACTED TO THAT.
>> OUR CHILDREN ARE FALLING
BEHIND AND SADLY BECAUSE OF THE
POLITICAL POWER OF THE MASSIVE
TEACHERS UNION AND RADICALS
LIKE TONY FAUCI WHO KEPT OUR
KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL.
THAT HAS TO STOP AND EVEN
DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS STARTING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> Dana: LET’S BRING IN FORMER
WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY CHIEF OF
STAFF KARL ROVE.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THESE
DEVELOPMENTS.
FALLING FASTER AND FASTER.
>> WELL, THEY’RE FOLLOWING THE
VOTERS FOR ONE REASON.
A NEW POLL OUT THIS MORNING
FROM AXIOS DO YOU WANT TO HAVE
NO MANDATES AND REQUIREMENTS
OPEN WITH NO MANDATES OR
REQUIREMENTS?
21%.
YOU WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS
OPENING UP WITH PRECAUTIONS,
29%.
51% WE WANT TO GET RID OF ALL
THE MANDATES OR REQUIREMENTS.
MOSTLY KEEP PRECAUTIONS AND
MANDATES IN PLACE, 23%.
THIS IS INTERESTING.
INCREASE MASK AND VACCINE
REQUIREMENTS 21%.
THE SIDE THAT SAYS SORT OF
STATUS QUO OR MAKE IT EVEN
TOUGHER 44%.
I SUSPECT A LOT OF THESE
GOVERNORS IN PLACES LIKE
DELAWARE AND COLORADO ARE
LOOKING AT THE POLLS AND SAYING
PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTING THE FACT
THAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW TO
LIVE WITH THIS DISEASE AND NOT
JUST SIMPLY KEEP OUR PEOPLE
LOCKED DOWN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PARTICULARLY
INTERESTING THEY GOT AN ASSIST
FROM AN UNLIKELY CORNER.
STACEY ABRAMS WHEN SHE WAS
CAUGHT TAKING HER MASK OFF
VISITING A GROUP OF STUDENTS
ALL MASKED SAID THE REASON SHE
TOOK IT OFF WAS SO THE STUDENTS
WATCHING HER ON ZOOM COULD READ
HER LIPS AND HEAR HER BETTER.
ISN’T THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
THAT WE’VE GOT WITH MASKS IN
CLASSROOMS?
STUDENTS ARE NOT LEARNING AS
WELL AS THEY USED TO?
>> Bill: LIKE THE COVER OF THE
"NEW YORK POST" TODAY.
GET BACK TO THE SMILES.
EXACTLY TO YOUR POINT.
RANDY WINE GARTNER HAS BEEN IN
THE SPOTLIGHT FOR TWO YEARS.
SHE WAS ON MSNBC EARLIER TODAY
AND SHE SAID WE HAVE TO TALK
ABOUT THE OFF RAMP FOR MASKS.
EVEN SHE -- ARE YOU STARTING TO
SEE A CRACK IN THE WALL EVEN
WITH HER POSITIONING.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO SEE HOW
IN A POLITICAL SENSE -- DO
AMERICANS FORGET ABOUT THIS
PHASE OR IF THEY REMEMBER IT,
HOW WILL WE SEE THAT OR NOTE
THAT IN FUTURE ELECTIONS?
>> WELL, I DO THINK PARENTS ARE
GETTING CONCERNED ABOUT THE
VERY REAL IMPACT OF THESE KIND
OF MANDATES AND REQUIREMENTS ON
STUDENTS.
THE MASK MANDATE IS NOT HELPING
STUDENTS LEARN AND THE VIRTUAL
LEARNING IS CLEARLY PUTTING A
WHOLE GENERATION OF STUDENTS
BEHIND WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
I THINK PARENTS ARE UP IN ARMS.
WE SAW THE ELECTORAL IMPACT TO
THAT IN VIRGINIA WHERE
REPUBLICAN RAN SIGNIFICANTLY
AHEAD OF WHERE DONALD TRUMP DID
TWO YEARS AGO OR A YEAR AND A
HALF AGO AND WON.
AND MY SENSE IS THAT WE WILL
SEE MORE OF THIS PLAY OUT IN
THE ELECTIONS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE ARE
ADVOCATING WE MOVE IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, I HAVE A REASONABLE
AND RESPONSIBLE TONE.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE VACCINATED.
WE DO WANT TO FOLLOW THE
GUIDANCE OF THE SCIENTISTS WHEN
THEY’VE GOT THE PROOF THESE
THINGS WORK.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT
MASKS IS MASKS REALLY DON’T
HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE
INFECTION RATE OR THE ILLNESS
RATE FOR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF
THE NATURE OF THE DISEASE
ITSELF.
SO I SUSPECT WE’LL SEE MORE AND
MORE PARENTS SAYING WE NEED TO
MANAGE THE RISK.
WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE
LEARNING.
WE DON’T WANT THEM TO BE
FALLING BEHIND BY HAVING
VIRTUAL EDUCATION AND WE WANT
OUR CHILDREN TO GET THE BEST
OUT OF THE IN-CLASS EXPERIENCE
WHICH MEANS WE DON’T NEED TO
HAVE MASKS FOR THE STUDENTS.
>> Dana: KARL, WHAT ABOUT FOR
PRESIDENT BIDEN?
HIS STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS
IS MARCH 1.
SAID HE WOULD CRUSH THE VIRUS.
SAID HE WOULD GET US TO A
RETURN TO NORMALCY AND HE IS
LEADING FROM BEHIND HERE AS
OTHER DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS MOVE
FORWARD AND THE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS WILL MOVE FORWARD.
SO HE MIGHT BE THE LAST PERSON
STANDING ON THIS POSITION ONCE
HE GETS TO THE STATE OF THE
UNION.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT’S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
ONE OTHER THING HE HAS BEEN
CONSISTENTLY DOING.
YOU MENTIONED IT, HE HAS BEEN
OVERPROMISING AND UNDER
DELIVERING.
WE ARE GOING TO CRUSH THIS
VIRUS BY JULY 4th.
WE’LL BE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN THE
REARVIEW MIRROR.
SEPTEMBER, WE’LL INCREASE
TESTING DRAMATICALLY AND THEY
DON’T GO OUT AND ORDER THE
TESTS AND THE TESTS DON’T GET
ORDERED SO THEY START TO SHOW
UP UNTIL JANUARY.
THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE VERY
CAREFUL ABOUT OVERPROMISING AND
UNDER DELIVERING.
BETTER FOR HIM TO SAY HERE IS
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND DO
IT THAN TO DO WHAT HE HAS BEEN
DOING WHICH IS RAISING OUR
EXPECTATIONS AND UNDER