>> Bill: UNDER FIRE FOR
REDUCING THE PENALTIES OF THE
CRIMINALS.
LEO TERRELL IS HERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
JUST -- I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR
ISSUES.
HERE IN NEW YORK THIS FELLOW
THAT ERIC SHAWN MENTIONED OVER
THE WEEKEND STOLE $2200 WORTH
OF MERCHANDISE FROM A LOCAL
PHARMACY.
CAME BACK LATER THAT SAME
AFTERNOON AND STOLE MORE
MERCHANDISE.
HE WAS ARRESTED.
HE HAD A PACKAGE OF HEROIN FALL
OUT OF HIS SOCK, LEO.
SO HE FACED A ROBBERY CHARGE.
THAT WAS DROPPED.
AND HE WAS CHARGED WITH TWO
COUNTS OF LARCENY AND RELATED
LOW LEVEL OFFENSES.
I HAVE TO THINK WHETHER IT’S
NEW YORK OR L.A. OR PHILLY OR
NAME YOUR CITY THAT THIS DOES
NOT END WELL, LEO.
>> IT IS NOT GOING TO END WELL,
BILL.
LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.
THIS ENCOURAGES MORE CRIME
BECAUSE THAT GENTLEMAN IN NEW
YORK OR THAT DEFENDANT HAD A
WEAPON.
UNDER BRAGG’S POLICY IT IS
AUTOMATICALLY REDUCED BECAUSE
THERE WAS NO DAMAGE OR INJURIES
TO THE VICTIM.
AND HERE IS THE PART THAT’S
AMAZING.
IN THE OPENING SHOT IT WOULD
SAY THIS.
BRAGG IS A PERSON OF COLOR.
HE KNOWS BETTER.
THAT THESE PROGRESSIVE POLICIES
DO NOT HELP THE PEOPLE HE
CLAIMS HE IS TRYING TO SERVE.
IT RECRUITS MORE CRIMINALS
BECAUSE NOW CRIMINALS, BILL, IN
NEW YORK AND IN L.A. ARE NOW
AWARE THAT THEY CAN USE A GUN,
THEY CAN USE A WEAPON.
IF THEY DON’T FIRE IT THEY’RE
NOT GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH A
FELONY.
IN FACT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
WALK BECAUSE IT WILL BE A
MISDEMEANOR.
THEY’LL RECRUIT YOUNG CHILDREN
TO JOIN THEIR GANG OR CRIMINAL
OPERATION.
THIS IS CRAZY.
IT DOES NOT WORK.
>> Bill: YESTERDAY ON FOX
BUSINESS CHARLIE WAS REPORTING
ON THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS
CITY HALL HAS TAKEN FROM PEOPLE
VERY INFLUENTIAL NEW YORKERS
AND RICH AND SPEND A LOT OF
MONEY HERE AND WORRIED ABOUT
THE SAFETY AND THE FUTURE OF
THE CITY AND NOT SURE HOW MUCH
MORE THEY SHOULD INVEST IN THE
TOWN UNTIL THEY GET BETTER
CLEARANCE AND GUIDANCE.
I WILL GIVE YOU A CASE IN POINT.
SOUND BITE TWO GREG HUNT OWNS A
WELL-KNOWN BILLIARDS POOL HALL
IN LOWER MANHATTAN.
THEY’RE WORRIED ABOUT IT AND
SEE IT EVERY DAY.
WATCH IT.
>> WE’VE HAD MORE MENTALLY ILL
PEOPLE COMING IN THAN WE’VE
EVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.
IT IS MAKING MY EMPLOYEES MORE
STRESSED.
I’M SCARED FOR MY FAMILY AND MY
EMPLOYEES.
WE HAD 20 YEARS OF GREAT
LEADERSHIP AND THINGS TURNED
AROUND AND GOT MUCH BETTER AND
NOW THEY ARE GOING WAY BACK THE
WHERE THEY WERE IN THE 70s.
>> Bill: THAT’S ONE GUY RUNNING
ONE SHOP IN LOWER MANHATTAN.
THE D.A. SAYS I DON’T
UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PUSHBACK.
HERE IS WHAT HE SAID.
>> OUR FIRST CIVIL RIGHTS IS
THE RIGHT TO WALK SAFELY TO OUR
CORNER STORE.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THAT
SAFETY HAS GOT TO BE BASED IN
OUR COMMUNITY IN FAIRNESS AND
CANNOT BE DRIVEN SOLELY BY
INCARCERATION.
>> Bill: YOU’VE BEEN IN THE
COURTROOM FOR DECADES.
WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT FAIRNESS
AND INCARCERATION, HOW DO WE
ACHIEVE THAT UNDER THIS CURRENT
POLICY HERE WHETHER IT’S IN
L.A. OR NEW YORK?
>> YOU CANNOT.
HE IS USING CODE WORDS.
I WILL BE VERY CLEAR.
AS A LAWYER FOR 30 YEARS HE IS
USING HIS COLOR AS A SHIELD.
FAIRNESS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE BEING HURT
BY HIS POLICIES.
THEY CAN’T AFFORD, BILL,
PRIVATE SECURITY.
HE IS TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS.
IT’S SOME TYPE OF REFLECTION OF
WHAT HAPPENED 35, 40 YEARS AGO.
WE HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR LIKE
HIMSELF IN POWER AND
RESPONSIBILITY.
THE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS THAT
HE IS CLAIMING THAT THIS IS
HELPING PEOPLE OF COLOR.
THIS IS HELPING THE CITY.
IT IS NOT.
IT’S HURTING.
PEOPLE OF COLOR WANT LAW
PROTECTION AND HE IS TAKING IT
AWAY.
IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.
>> Bill: LEO, THEY WILL NOT
PROSECUTE TRESPASSING.
RESISTING ARREST, SUBWAY AND
BUS FARE DODGING AND SEX WORK.
I GUESS YOU HAVE TO MAKE A