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>>> IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN
THIS COUNTRY, IT'S BEEN
APPEALING FOR SOME PEOPLE TO
CALL JOURNALISTS THE ENEMY OF
THE PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S
ILLUMINATING TO LOOK AT WHO
TAKES THAT SENTIMENT TO THE NEXT
LEVEL AND KILLS JOURNALISTS.
IT'S ILLUMINATING TO CONSIDER
WHO -- IF YOU BELIEVE THAT WHO
YOU'RE IN BED WITH.
YOU'RE IN BED WITH VLADIMIR
PUTIN, WITH SAUDI ARABIA.
WITH ISIS. >> THAT WAS FAMED WAR
>> THAT WAS FAMED WAR
CORRESPONDENT, AUTHOR AND
DOCUMENT TARYN
DOCUMENTARIAN.
SEBASTIAN YOUNGER ON THE
IMPORTANCE ON PROTECTING
JOURNALISTS EVERYWHERE BUT
ESPECIALLY THOSE IN CONFLICT
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
MOST RECENTLY IN UKRAINE WHERE
THESE IMAGES LIKE THESE EVERY
SINGLE DAY ARE ONLY POSSIBLE TO
BE WITNESSED BY THE WORLD
BECAUSE OF THE JOURNALISTS.
WE DEPEND ON TO KNOW WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN PUTIN'S BRUTAL WAR
IN UKRAINE AND BROADER ASSAULT
ON DEMOCRACY.
ON CIVILIANS.
AND ON FREEDOM OF THAT
INFORMATION.
JOURNALIST BRIAN WRITES THIS
EXPLAINING WHY HE DECIDED TO
TRAVEL TO UKRAINE TODAY AND ADD
TO THE BRAVE BODY OF JOURNALISTS
TELLING THE STORY THERE,
JOURNALISM THAT COULD HELP END A
WAR AND THAT COULD HELP SAVE
DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY.
QUOTE, PUTIN'S REGIME MURDERED
REPORTERS WHILE SOWING SEEDS OF
DISTRUST WORLDWIDE.
DONALD TRUMP WANTED TO BE JUST
LIKE HIM.
REPORTERS PUSHED BACK AGAINST
TRUMP, SOMETIMES IN THE BRIEFING
ROOM AND REPORTING THAT DESPITE
THE THREATS AND THE INTIMIDATION
BROKE DID BACK OF THE AMERICAN
OPPRESSOR.
JOINING US NOW IS BRIAN KAREM.
JUST CROSSED THE BORDER INTO
LVIV, UKRAINE.
AMBASSADOR McFAUL IS STILL WITH
US, AS WELL.
BRIAN, TELL US ABOUT THE
DECISION TO GO COVER THE WAR IN
UKRAINE.
>> IT WASN'T REALLY A DECISION
THAT WAS HARD TO MAKE.
WE SIT IN THE WHITE HOUSE
BRIEFING ROOM QUITE OFTEN ASKING
QUESTIONS AND WE NEED TO GET OUT
OF THERE AND GO ASK QUESTIONS
AND SHOW PEOPLE WHAT'S REALLY
GOING ON.
GREATEST THING YOU CAN DO AS A
REPORTER IS TO NOT PONTIFICATE
AND NOT GIVE OPINION BUT TO JUST
SHOW PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON.
THE PICTURES YOU SEE, THE THINGS
YOU WITNESS, THE THINGS AS A DIS
DISINTERESTED THIRD PARTY TO
SHOW PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON AS A
VALUE AND IF SOME SMALL WAY YOU
CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE VALUE
OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE PLANET
THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AND
WHAT DROVE ME TO BE HERE AND WHY
I'M TALKING TO YOU NOW.
>> YOU WRITE THIS IN YOUR GREAT
PIECE TODAY.
AS LONG AS HUMAN KIND CONTINUES
THE INHUMANITY AGAINST ITSELF
REPORTERS WILL BE THERE TO
CHRONICLE THE EVENTS.
THEY WILL BE UNARMED.
THEY WILL CARRY NOTEPADS, PENS,
CAMERAS, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES,
AND LAPTOPS AND PUT THEMSELVES
IN HARM'S WAY BECAUSE WE NEED TO
KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO UKRAINE.
YOU MUST KNOW ALREADY IN THIS
22-DAY WAR IN UKRAINE,
JOURNALISTS HAVE BEEN TARGETED.
TWO FOX NEWS CREW MEMBERS HAVE
LOST THEIR LIVES AND ANOTHER IS
HOSPITALIZED.
BRENT RENAUD LOST HIS LIFE.
WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?
ARE YOU SCARED?
>> WELL YEAH, SURE.
I WOULD BE AN IDIOT IF I
WEREN'T.
THAT DOESN'T KEEP YOU FROM DOING
THE JOB.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO AND
HAVE TO DO.
WE NEED MORE REPORTERS OUT IN
THE FIELD.
WE NEED TO DEFEAT PROPAGANDA
WITH FACTS.
SOME FACT OF THE MATTER IS THERE
ARE FACTS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO
SEE.
JUST DRIVING HERE TODAY FROM
WARSAW AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE
AND SEEING JUST THE FEAR THAT
THEY HAVE.
THEY HAVE TO LIVE HERE AND GO
THROUGH THIS AND TO HAVE THE
PROPAGANDA THAT'S SPREAD BY
PUTIN, BEING, YOU KNOW,
SWALLOWED BY PEOPLE IS VERY
COMPELLING REASON TO BE HERE AND
SO SPEAK TO WHAT THE AMBASSADOR
AND OTHER GUEST WERE TALKING
ABOUT.
THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
THERE'S A HUGE PROBLEM WITH
PROPAGANDA AND TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST THAT YOU NEED PEOPLE
THAT KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB AND
CAN DO IT.
I SAY THAT FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL
MEDIA, THE FIRST SOCIAL MEDIA
WAR.
SOME PUSHBACK IN THIS PARTICULAR
WAR HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE
SOCIAL MEDIA SO THAT'S A GOOD
THING BUT YOU CAN'T FORGET THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE, TRAINED
OBSERVERS THAT DO THIS AND NEED
TO BE HERE AND SHOW PEOPLE
WHAT'S GOING ON AND ENLIGHTEN
THE WORLD TO UKRAINE AND IT IS A
DESPERATE TIME AND THESE ARE
DESPERATE TIMES SO IF I SAT OUT
ON THIS I DON'T THINK MY WIFE
WOULD LIKE ME VERY MUCH.
I DON'T THINK I COULD SIT STILL
AND NOT BE HERE.
>> INCREDIBLE.
AMBASSADOR McFAUL, I WONDER IF
YOU CAN SPEAK TO YOUR SOURCES
FROM UKRAINE AND RUSSIA HOW MUCH
OF THE TRUTH OF WHAT BRIAN IS
THERE TO SHOW THE WORLD WILL GET
OUT, WILL MAKE IT INTO RUSSIA.
>> FIRST, I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD
ALL JOURNALISTS, AMERICAN,
UKRAINIAN, UKRAINIANS, MANY
FRIENDS OF MINE, PEOPLE GOING
THROUGH THE INSTITUTE AND
TRAINING PROGRAMS AND I THINK 25
PROBABLY THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH
THE TRAINING PROGRAMS OVER 15
YEARS REPORTING FROM UKRAINE AND
WITHOUT THE BRAVERY INCLUDING
OUR NETWORK, TOO.
LET'S NOT FORGET THEM.
INCREDIBLE REPORTING BRINGING
THE STORY TO THE WORLD.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK ZELENSKYY HIMSELF
UNDERSTANDS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT'S WHY HE USED THE ADDRESS
TO CONGRESS TO SHOW REPORTING.
RIGHT?
SHOW PICTURES OF WHAT'S GOING
ON.
IT'S NOT GETTING INTO RUSSIA AS
WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE WAYS WE
WOULD LIKE BUT INCUMBENT UPON US
INCLUDING UKRAINIAN REPORTERS
THAT I DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR
BASIS TO TRY TO GET THE MESSAGES
IN BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE NEED
RUSSIANS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE SO THAT THEY WILL
PUT PRESSURE ORION THEN THE GOVE
TO STOP THE WAR.
>> TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN SO
FAR.
>> SO FAR COMING UP HERE I'VE
SEEN NERVOUS PEOPLE.
MISSILES LANDED OUTSIDE LVIV
BEFORE I GOT HERE THIS MORNING.
I SPENT TIME WITH POLICE
CHECKING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
ON THE ROAD WAS LEGIT INCLUDING
ME.
I HAVE BEEN TO 12 DIFFERENT
CONFLICT ZONES AND EACH ONE IS
DIFFERENT.
THIS IS AS SERIOUS AS I HAVE
EVER SEEN A CONFLICT ZONE.
AS SERIOUS AS IT GETS.
TO THE AMBASSADOR'S POINT, YEAH,
IT IS HARD TO GET INTO RUSSIA
BUT IT IS NUMBERS.
WE HAVE TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON IT
AND SHOW THE WORLD AND IF WE
DON'T THERE'S NO HOPE SO I HAVE
A LOT OF HOPE AND I SEE
RESILIENCY IN THE UKRAINIAN
PEOPLE AND WHAT I SAW TODAY WAS
IN ADDITION TO THE FEAR STILL
RESILIENCY AND GOES BACK TO
ZELENSKYY SAYING HE DIDN'T NEED
A RIDE OUT OF TOWN BUT
AMMUNITION AND INSPIRED PEOPLE
AND NATIONALS NOT FROM UKRAINE.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS
RESPONDED.
I HAVE SEEN THAT ALL DAY LONG
TODAY WITH PEOPLE COMING IN FROM