>> Peggy: IF PROPOSITIONS 32 PASSES UNIONS WOULD NO LONGER BE
ABLE TO USE AUTOMATIC PAY CHECK DEDUCTIONS FOR POLITICAL
PURPOSES.
THOSE FOR AND AGAINST THE MEASURE AGREE WITH TO RESTRICT
UNION'S POLITICAL INFLUENCE.
WE ARE JOINED WITH CHRIS KATE AND JIM GROTH ON THE SUBJECT.
JIM GROTH OPPOSED PROP 32.
THANK YOU, BOTH FOR FOR JOINING ME.
JIM, WHY IS THIS MEASURE IMPORTANT TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T
WORK IN A UNION?
>> THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF CALIFORNIANS.
ESPECIALLY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS MAKING UP THE MAJORITY OF
CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS ABOUT SILENCING VOICES
IN CALIFORNIA.
>> Peggy: THROUGH FINANCIAL MEANS?
>> THROUGH FINANCIAL MEANS, BY CUTTING OFF OUR PARTICIPATION IN
SACRAMENTO.
>> Peggy: CHRIS, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR NON
UNION VOTERS.
>> I AGREE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF CALIFORNIA.
WE'RE TIRED OF THE STATUS QUO.
UNIONS AND CORPORATION WHOSE HAVE EXERTED THEIR INFLUENCE IN
SACRAMENTO AND HAVE EITHER OPPOSED OR SUPPORTED BILLS AT
THE LAST MINUTE READING TO OUR CONSENT BUDGET DEFICITS
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IN SACRAMENTO AND THE NEED FOR
ALWAYS COMING BACK AND ASKING VOTERS TO SHORE UP DEFICITS.
WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT REAL REFORMS IN SACRAMENTO.
THIS IS A PERFECT START TO IT.
>> Peggy: LET'S LOOK AT AN ADD AGAINST THE MEASURE IT SAYS BIG
BUSINESS AND SUPER PACs ARE EXEMPT UNDER THE MEASUREMENTS.
>> LOOK WHO WINS IN PROPOSITIONS 32 PASSES.
>> CORPORATIONS, THEY'RE ALREADY SPENDING 15 TIMES AS MUCH AS
LABOR UNIONS.
THE SUPER PACS, WALL STREET FIRMS AND HEDGE FUNDS, THEY ALL
GET A SPECIAL EXEMPTION UNDER PROPOSITIONS 32.
>> Peggy: CHRIS, DO THESE EXEMPTIONS IN THE AD GIVE A
UNFAIR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE?
WHY EXEMPT?
>> PROPOSITIONS 32 DOESN'T HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR HEDGE FORMS OR
STRONG MAN OR BOOGIE MAN THAT PRO PONE ANTS OF PROP 32 WANT TO
PUT TOGETHER.
IT GOES AS FAR AS WHAT IS
ALLOWED CONSTITUTIONALLY UNDER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> Peggy: IS THAT TRUE, JIM?
>> NO THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS IN THE LAW.
IT WON'T STOP CORPORATIONS FROM HAVING TOTAL IMPACT OR ANY
RESTRICTION ON SUPER PACS.
THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE PARTICIPATION BY CORPORATIONS,
MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES.
THEY WANT TO CONTROL SACRAMENTO SO THEY CAN SET THE RULES.
>> YOU SAY THEY'RE EXEMPTIONS THE SUPER PACKS?
>> NO WITH PROP 32 WILL NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO TO STOP THEIR
ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH SUPER PACS.
AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE $11 MILLION THAT CAME ACROSS THE
BORDER FROM ARIZONA.
ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO.
>> THAT'S CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED.
THE SUPREME COURT HAVE THE SAY ON THAT.
CALIFORNIA CAN'T GO BEYOND WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS.
>> Peggy: WHAT T IS LEGAL -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Peggy: LET'S LISTEN TO THE SUPPORTERS OF PROP 32 AD.
>> IN CALIFORNIA YOUR EMPLOYER OR UNION CAN ROB YOUR PAY CHECK
AND SPEND IT ON POLITICS.
NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU WORK OR DESPERATE YOUR FINANCIAL NEEDS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION YOUR EMPLOYER OR UNION CAN TAKE PART
OF EVERY PAY CHECK FOR POLITICS.
>> JIM, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT, DON'T EMPLOYEES HAVE TO
AGREE FOR POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION.
>> EMPLOYEES THAT BELONG TO A UNION HAVE THE PROTECTED OPTION
THAT THEY CAN OPT OUT.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS FILL OUT A FORM AND THEIR PORTION OF
UNION DUES WILL NOT GO TO POLITICAL ACTIVITIES.
ALSO A INDIVIDUAL HAS THE OPTION OF JOINING THE UNION AND NOT
JOINING THE UNION.
>> Peggy: CHRIS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THERE FORCED POLITICAL --
>> LET ME ADDRESS THAT.
YOU CAN'T CHOOSE IF YOU'RE A UNION OR NOT.
YOUR DUES ARE USED FOR WHAT NOT.
WE'RE FIGHTING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO VOLUNTARILY TO GIVE TO A
POLITICAL ACTIVITY.
LIKE IT IS IN ANY PRIVATE SECTOR GIVE TO A CANDIDATE.
>> Peggy: WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
THERE IS MORE ON OUR WEBSITE.
THANK YOU, JIM GROTH AND CHRIS CATE, FOR JOINING ME.
>> THANK YOU.