>>> THE FRAGILE MENTAL STATE OF DONALD TRUMP WAS ON DISPLAY
TODAY IN LONDON ESPECIALLY WHEN
HE DESCRIBED ADAM SCHIFF IN A
WAY THAT TO MANY SOUNDED LIKE A
REASONABLY ACCURATE DESCRIPTION
OF DONALD TRUMP.
>> I THINK ADAM SCHIFF IS A
DERANGED HUMAN BEING.
I THINK HE GREW UP WITH A
COMPLEX FOR LOTS OF REASONS THAT
ARE OBVIOUS.
ARE OBVIOUS. I THINK HE’S A VERY SICK MAN.
AND HE LIES.
>> JOINING OUR DISCUSSION NOW
DR. LANCE DODIS, A FORMER
ASSISTANT CLINICAL PROFESSOR AT
HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL.
HE’S A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE BEST
SELLING BOOK "THE DANGEROUS CASE
OF DONALD TRUMP" 37
PSYCHIATRISTS AND MENTAL HEALTH
EXPERTS ASSESS A PRESIDENT.
THERE HE IS TODAY SAYING I THINK
ADAM SCHIFF IS A DERANGED HUMAN
BEING, HE GREW UP WITH A COMPLEX
FOR LOTS OF REASONS THAT ARE
OBVIOUS.
OBVIOUS. I THINK HE’S A VERY SICK MAN AND
HE LIES.
HE LIES. WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO DONALD
TRUMP SAYING THAT ABOUT ADAM
SCHIFF?
SCHIFF? >> WELL, YOU HAD REPRESENTATIVE
SCHIFF ON EARLIER AND I THINK HE
GOT IT EXACTLY RIGHT.
HE SAID THIS IS A PROJECTION.
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
HE TELLS OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY
ARE WHAT HE IS.
IT’S A COMMON ENOUGH MECHANISM
IN EARLY CHILDHOOD.
AND IT’S -- BUT AS AN ADULT
USING IT ALL THE TIME IT’S WHAT
WE WOULD CALL PRIMITIVE.
IF DONALD TRUMP WERE CAPABLE OF
GIVING A REASONABLE DISCUSSION
OF SOMETHING HE DIDN’T AGREE
WITH, HE WOULD MAKE SOME SORT OF
LOGICAL CASE.
LOGICAL CASE. BUT HE’S UNABLE TO DO THAT.
HE RUNS KIND OF A SIMPLE PROGRAM
IN THAT WAY, SO HE TELLS YOU
THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE WHAT HE IS
BEING ACCUSED OF AND WHAT HE
ACTUALLY IS.
ACTUALLY IS. >> SO IN THAT SENSE, DOCTOR,
DOES THAT MEAN THAT HIS SOURCE
MATERIAL FOR WHAT HE IS SAYING
IS ALMOST ALWAYS HIMSELF BECAUSE
THAT’S THE ONLY SOURCE MATERIAL
HE HAS?
HE HAS? >> YES.
>> YES. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT HIM.
AS YOU POINTED OUT HE DOESN’T
HAVE ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE SO HE JUST
SAYS WHAT FEELS RIGHT TO HIM.
AND ESPECIALLY WHAT HE THINKS IS
IN HIS PERSONAL INTEREST.
YOUR OTHER GUEST WAS POINTING
OUT THAT HE IS REPLACING AMERICA
WITH HIMSELF.
WITH HIMSELF. AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM
SUPPORT HIM RATHER THAN THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. AND I THINK THAT’S ALSO EXACTLY
RIGHT.
RIGHT. LIKE MANY STRONG MEN THE CON HE
HAS WORKS BECAUSE HE IDENTIFIES
HIMSELF WITH SOMETHING THEY
LOVE, IN THIS CASE AMERICA.
AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THIS IDEA
HE IS AMERICA, HE REPRESENTS
AMERICA, HE LITERALLY WRAPS
HIMSELF IN THE FLAG, WHICH HE’S
DONE, THEN IT DOESN’T MATTER
THAT HE’S A SOCIOPATH.
IT DOESN’T MATTER HE HAS NO
CONSCIENCE.
CONSCIENCE. IT DOESN’T EVEN MATTER THAT HE
COMMITS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
WHICH HE DID WHEN HE LOCKED UP
CHILDREN IN CAGES ON THE BORDER.
AS LONG AS
AS LONG AS THEY THINK HE
REPRESENTS WHAT HE LOVES,
THEY’LL LOVE HIM.
>> HE SAYS IT IN THE NEXT
SENTENCE.
SENTENCE. LET’S WATCH THIS.
>> IN SOME WAYS I THINK IT’S
BETTER TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE
ELECTION IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH. I THINK IN SOME WAYS IT’S BETTER
TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION
WITH CHINA, BUT I’M NOT GOING TO
SAY THAT.
SAY THAT. I JUST THINK THAT.
I JUST TELL YOU -- IN SOME WAYS
I LIKE THE IDEA OF WAITING UNTIL
AFTER THE ELECTION FOR THE CHINA
DEAL.
DEAL. >> RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT
WE HEAR HIM SAY I’M NOT GOING TO
SAY THAT, I JUST THINK THAT AND
THEN HE’S ALREADY SAID IT, AND
THEN HE SAYS IT AGAIN.
>> WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS -- YOU
HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS MAN
AS I SAID WHO’S RUNNING A VERY
SIMPLE PROGRAM.
SIMPLE PROGRAM. I DON’T SAY THAT AS AN INSULT.
IT’S JUST BECAUSE
HE CAN ONLY DO WHAT HE DOES.
AND HE IS IN A WAY -- HE’S
LIMITED BY THE LIMITED CAPACITY
OF A PERSON WITH EARLY EMOTIONAL
DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT. HE DOESN’T HAVE MUCH COMPLEXITY
TO HIM.
TO HIM. SO HE SAYS WHAT HE THINKS AND
HE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T MATTER
WHERE IT’S TRUTH.
TRUTH MEANS NOTHING TO HIM AND
OTHER PEOPLE MEAN NOTHING TO
HIM.
HIM. ONCE YOU GET THAT CONCEPT THAT
NOTHING MATTERS, NO CONSCIENCE
OR MORALITY, THEN EVERYTHING
ELSE FALLS INTO PLACE AND TRUTH
MEANS NOTHING.
MEANS NOTHING. >> IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DOCTOR,
HOW DOES A PERSON END UP LIKE
THIS?
THIS? WHAT’S THE DEVELOPMENTAL PATH TO
THIS KIND OF CONDITION?
>> IT’S VERY EARLY.
ALMOST ALL PEOPLE DON’T HAVE
THIS PROBLEM.
THIS PROBLEM. ONE OF THE IRONS IS MOST PEOPLE
WHO SUPPORT HIM WOULD MAKE A
BETTER PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE
PRESIDENT IS ILL.
BUT THE EARLY CAPACITY TO HAVE
EMPATHY FOR OTHER PEOPLE, TO
IDENTIFY THEM AS BEING
WORTHWHILE HAPPENS IN ALL HUMAN
BEINGS AT A VERY EARLY POINT.
HE DOESN’T HAVE THAT, AND THAT’S
WHY HE CAN TREAT OTHER PEOPLE
WITH COMPLETE ABANDON AND
LITERALLY ABANDON.
LITERALLY ABANDON. IF THEY’RE FOR HIM, HE LOVES
THEM, IF THEY’RE AGAINST HIM,
THEY’RE HORRIBLE.
THEY’RE HORRIBLE. AS BLACK AND WHITE AND VERY
SIMPLE.
SIMPLE. >> WRITING IN 2017 IN THE BOOK
THAT WE MENTIONED, THE DANGER
CASE OF DONALD TRUMP, YOU SAID
THAT THESE CHARACTERISTICS WILL
ONLY BECOME WORSE.
DO YOU SEE EVIDENCE THAT THAT
HAS HAPPENED?
HAS HAPPENED? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE
WORSE.
WORSE. IF HE DIDN’T HAVE HIS PARTY
BEHIND HIM, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
OUT OF THE OFFICE A LONG TIME
AGO BECAUSE HE’S SO OBVIOUSLY
INCOMPETENT.
INCOMPETENT. BUT HE WILL BE PROPPED UP.
AS LONG AS HE IS PROPPED UP, I
THINK HE’LL SURVIVE.
BUT HE WILL CERTAINLY GET WORSE
THE MORE HE’S CHALLENGED.