Organizations who have formally recognized this include American Academy
of Pediatrics, American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Obstetricians and
Gynecologists, American College of Physicians, American Medical Association,
American Pediatric Association.
Dozens and dozens of- >> Remember when doctors said smoking was
good for you?
You're not citing science, you're citing government approval.
>> No, I'm not, I'm citing- >> And that's fine but-
>> What does the government have
to do with that?
These are medical organizations.
>> Okay, sure, fair point.
>> [LAUGH] No, that's true.
That's true.
[LAUGH] Good point, Emma.
Good point.
[LAUGH] >> So ridiculous, so
I watched a lot of this.
I don't really watch Tim Cass, and there's a real conversation to actually
be had where Tim is talking about how Emma doesn't watch his program and
Emma's talking about how Tim doesn't watch Emma's program.
They all have these notions of what the other one does just because they
respond to what surfaces.
And it's possible.
One of the things that triggered Tim, very obviously, is when Emma said,
sorry, Tim, your program appeals to Nazis, and he lost his mind.
He was like, how dare you say that?
And then he brought TYT into the equation and said, TYT was something that
one of the shooters at one point back in the day watched, and then went out and
said, I'm now gonna go commit a mass shooting cuz I'm the one to stop this.
I think the main takeaway from that is, stop this.
But I was taken aback watching Tim
in real time try to act smart.
And when Emma pointed out that he very obviously tweets
nonstop about trans people and children just to appeal
to this rabid right-wing fan base and collect clicks,
he then did that thing where every accusation is a projection.
And he accused Emma and Sam of going after clicks by
making videos about Dave Rubin and Tim Pool.
She pointed out that the first half of the show, the public show,
is about all the serious issues that everybody advocates for on the left.
No one really talks about that.
They only like to cherry pick Tim Rubin or Tim Pool and
Dave Rubin, when their RSS feed about themselves gets set off.
And so they kind of, it's just a big bowl of hypocrisy.
But I don't know, John, have you ever watched a Tim Pool full on segment?
>> No, I really haven't.
There are people who I follow that clip things out, I'll sometimes see that.
Why would I watch, why would literally anyone watch that?
I mean, people who agree with him, I don't know why they would watch it.
Why are all of the people delivering this insane grifty stuff also uniquely lacking
in charisma, wit, curiosity, anything that makes the show interesting?
But that's not important, he's obviously doing fine.
>> Cuz he know how to lick grundle, that's the answer.
>> I guess.
>> Cuz he know how to just suck up to people.
>> Wait, hold on, I wanna respond cuz, yeah, eight years ago when that shooting
happened, there were a lot of people that were saying that TYT was responsible.
Here's the thing, shooters can be inspired by literally anything.
The mere fact that someone says that they watch something does not by itself mean
that the host of the show is responsible.
There are additional aspects of critical thought that need to be considered.
So, first of all, have the host in the show repeatedly,
repeatedly said that political violence is not acceptable under any circumstances?
That seems like a relevant thing to consider.
All of the hosts at TYT constantly say that.
No, bones, we're not trying to, like, wink and nod at the audience, like,
hey, maybe we get to do something extreme.
No, it's unacceptable in all cases.
Jake has been very clear about that, Anne has been very clear about that,
I've been very clear about that, all of us have.
Whereas Tim Pool literally has guns on his set.
And I don't even care specifically about Tim Pool, but it is a constant that
right-wingers are specifically goading their audience towards violence.
When Tucker Carlson is doing segments saying, if some freak is in the park,
a parent should punch him in the face, that's saying, go and attack someone.
Jesse Waters just had a guy on over the weekend who was saying people
are gonna have to pick up guns and do something about this.
That is what makes you culpable, not when you're specifically telling people that
we have political solutions to political problems.
Anyway, I just hate the easy, cheap, boneheaded,
both sides thing when he understands full well the difference.
>> Yeah, my general criticism of most discourse between personalities
on the Internet is that no one watches each other's stuff.
I get it and I wanna point- >> Who has time to?
>> Well, that's fine but
still do the research on the thing you're talking about is the question.
And the answer, my approach to it is like, I'm just appraising this moment.
I don't like when people are like, why don't you get a look at one segment?
Like, why aren't you covering this thing all the time?
It's like, what do you want?
To have me only talk about one thing ever?
I can, I would argue that I listen to Joe Rogan podcast podcast and
all of these schmucks.
It's like my neighbor.
I had this neighbor who loved bikes, and
I would just do everything in my power to keep the conversation away from bikes
because he would wanna talk to me about bikes for an hour and a half.
And I couldn't get away cuz I lived right next to him.
Tim pool to Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan specifically is the bikes guy when it comes to vaccines.
I watched his interview with Sam Reel, totally normal, totally normal and
then as soon as anything remotely having to do with the pandemic came up,
it was like, bikes, vaccines, vaccines, vaccines.
It's like, you guys are so boring.
I would say, the reason I call you stupid is because the stupid people I've
interacted with in this sphere are people who just focus on the half thing that they
learned that made them feel good and got people to yell, yeah, after they say it.
They just fixate on that.
I worked with Jimmy Dor for a very long time, and every time I come on the goddamn
show with Jimmy Dor, he would say, Obama took away habeas corpus 600 times
because that's the half thing he could physically understand with his brain.
And then he would go searching for other things that back that up,
because enough people yelled, yeah, when he said it.
Now, in a lot of discourse, that's called messaging, and the people then use that.
The smart people use that to expand and broaden the scope and
bring you into a political movement.
But the dumb ones, the ones that I feel comfortable calling just dumb,
are the ones that just focus on that thing and just go deeper and
deeper down a rabbit hole of confirmation bias.
That's what's dangerous, and that's what's stupid.
And Emma went in there and very accurately pointed out how limited his scope is.
He incriminates himself, he's like, didn't they used to say smoking was good?
It's like, what year do you think it is?
That's the kind of thing that gets a whole group of dumb teen boys to go like,
yeah, you showed her.
But then she comes right back, and
he'll never acknowledge that he got his face punched in.
>> Yeah. >> And
they aren't gonna acknowledge it either cuz everybody's just cherry picking things
that make you feel good, not what's actually factually accurate.
>> Emma's great, I'm sure she did a great job.
I generally think, look, it absolutely sucks that we've gotten to
a position where mediocre grifty people like him and
others have a position of influence, but maybe she convinced some people.
I'm very pessimistic about the ability of even people as intelligent and
good at communicating as Emma is,
being able to get through to an audience like that but who knows?
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