ASIDE THIS FIGHTING FOR MY
HUSBAND FOR FREEDOM.
IT HAS TO BE TOGETHER.
DAVID: BREAKING TONIGHT, MORE
TROUBLING NEWS IN OUR OWN
HEMISPHERE.
TWO RUSSIAN JETS TOUCHING DOWN
IN VENEZUELA THIS WEEKEND,
REPORTEDLY CARRYING DOZENS OF
RUSSIAN TROOPS ALONG WITH THE
RUSSIAN DEFENSE OFFICIAL.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, JOHN
BOLTON, SLAMMING RUSSIAN TWEETS
SAYING, QUOTE THE UNITED STATES
SENDS FOOD AND MEDICINE TO HELP
THE PEOPLE OF VENEZUELA RATHER
THAN SENDING NUCLEAR CAPABLE
BOMBERS AND SPECIAL FORCES TO
PROP UP A CORRUPT DICTATOR.
RUSSIA SHOULD WORK WITH THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO
SUPPORT THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE.
HERE WITH ME KNOWS FORMER U.S.
ARMY SPECIAL FORCES AND CENTER
FOR SECURITY POLICY EXECUTIVE
VICE PRESIDENT, JIM HAMPSON.
HOW FAR DO YOU THINK RUSH IS
WILLING TO GO TO PROTECT MADURO?
>> BY SENDING THE TROOPS THEY
HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT
PROVOCATION AND RAISE THE STAKES
SIGNIFICANTLY.
AT THIS POINT, THE U.S. HAS
ALREADY RECOGNIZE JUAN GUIDO AS
THE RIGHTFUL LEADER OF
VENEZUELA.
SO, RUSSIAN COMING IN NOW AND
GOING AGAINST THE WILL OF 60
COUNTRIES THAT SUPPORT GUIDO IS
A BAD THING.
WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS
NOT THE ONLY PLACE THAT U.S. AND
RUSSIAN TROOPS COULD POTENTIALLY
BE ON THE GROUND TOGETHER, AND
SYRIA THEY ARE.
THERE IS A GROUP OF 200 RUSSIAN
MERCENARIES THAT DECIDED TO TRY
AND TAKE A U.S. BASE OUT IN
SYRIA.
THEY GOT RETURNED TO THEIR
COMPONENT MOLECULES.
SO I THINK PUTIN SHOULD KEEP
THAT IN MIND.
DAVID: AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS,
HOW FAR WE MIGHT GO IN
SUPPORTING THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE
FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM IN
VENEZUELA.
I AM JUST WONDERING PARTICULARLY
AFTER WHAT HAPPENED IN SYRIA,
THE RUSSIAN SO THAT WE ARE
SERIOUS ABOUT PROTECTING OUR
INTERESTS, WHETHER SYRIA,
VENEZUELA, OR ANYBODY ELSE, DO
YOU THINK RUSSIAN TROOPS WOULD
REALLY BE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR
LIVES TO SUPPORT THIS CLOWN,
MADURO?
>> I THINK IT IS A PROVOCATION
DESIGNED TO CREATE A RESPONSE.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS, NOBODY
WANTS A MILITARY CONFRONTATION.
THE AMOUNT OF TROOPS AT THE
RUSSIAN SCENT IS NOT ENOUGH TO
EVEN MAKE A DENT.
WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE PEOPLE
HIDING IN THE JUNGLE THERE THAT
THEY BROUGHT IN ON THE PLAINS.
THE BOTTOM LINE, THERE COULD BE
A SITUATION WHERE WE FEEL
OBLIGATED TO PROTECT PEOPLE,
LIKE WIDOWS CHIEF OF STAFF AND
OF THE PEOPLE WERE BEING
KIDNAPPED AND PICKED UP.
THERE IS NO WAY TO THE U.S.
COULD COUNTER THIS HAVING
DECIDED THAT GUIDO WAS THE
RIGHTFUL RULER.
I THINK THERE IS AN UPCOMING
CONFRONTATION THAT HOPEFULLY
WILL NOT GO TO MILITARY ACTION.
DAVID: ONE THING I FIND HOPEFUL
IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF
DESERTIONS NOW, NOT AT THE TOP.
THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF
PEOPLE AT THE TOP WHO HAVE LEFT
THE MADURO REGIME IN THE
MILITARY.
BUT, I'M TOLD A THOUSAND TROOPS
HAVE DESERTED GOING TO COLUMBIA
BECAUSE THEY JUST CANNOT AFFORD
TO LIVE ANYMORE IN VENEZUELA.
THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO TRAVEL
THAT NORMAL CIVILIANS DON'T
HAVE.
SO, IF YOU JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF
OVERPAID THIEVING OFFICERS IN
THE MADURO RICCI
THE MADURO REGCI
THE MADURO REGIME, WHAT DOES HE
HAVE?
>> THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE
CORRUPTION AND THE THIEVES YOU
TALKED ABOUT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PICK UP A
GUN AND FIGHT, THEY ARE PROBABLY
EXTRA KITING ALL OF THE MONEY
AND VALUABLES IF THEY HAVEN'T
ALREADY AND LOOKING FOR THEIR
PLAN TO FIND A PLACE TO SIT WITH
MY TIES ON THE BEACH.
THOSE GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO
FIGHT TO THE LAST MAN.
WE WILL SEE HOW MANY MADURO
GATHERS AROUND HIM.
I HAVE A FEELING HE WILL BE
PUSHED OUT BY AN INTERNATIONAL
PRESSURE OF SOME SORT.
DAVID: JIM, IN THE 1980s WE
HELPED REBELS A NICKEL WALKER
AND THEY EVENTUALLY DISPLACED
THE -- THERE WERE THREATENING
THE ENTIRE HEMISPHERE.
I KNOW THERE WERE SPECIAL FORCES
IN CENTRAL AMERICA AT THE TIME.
YOU SUGGESTED THERE ARE SPECIAL
FORCES NOW IN THE REGION, AS
WELL.
WHAT WILL THEY DO?
ARE THEY TRAINING REBELS?
WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY DOING?
>> I THINK THERE IS A GOOD
CHANCE WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT
BOTH IN COLOMBIA AND BRAZIL
WHERE WE DO HAVE COOPERATIVE
AGREEMENTS, THOSE MILITARIES ARE
PREPARED IF ANYTHING HAS TO BE
DONE.
THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME
DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY WITH THE
TROOPS WHO HAVE GONE AHEAD AND
LEFT MADURO WAS SERVICE, TO SAY
WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER BECOMING