To support Jessica and my family,
I had to work 12 hours a day, seven days a week.
At one point I had two full-time jobs.
Jessica was a stay at home mom but she let things go.
The house looked horrible.
They say there's three feet of clothes on the floor.
It's this much paperwork
from one end of the counter across the stove.
How can you cook?
You can't cook.
After a 12 hour shift I'd have to come home,
clean the bathroom, snow blow.
I was never allowed to take a break.
The most important thing to Jessica was getting my paycheck.
Jess will call me nine, 10, 12 times
in just a matter of a short period of time
because I explode.
We got a car payment due or we got a house payment due.
She'd start yelling because of money
or because I'm a deadbeat dad
or I'm not supporting them because the bills.
That's all it was, was the bills.
I told him previously that the house payment
was due on the first and now it's overdue.
Jessica is turning my daughters against me.
She coaches them.
My girls always know what's going on at home
because they have always paid the bills with me.
Chloe will say to me why is your check this much
when it should have been this much?
That's exactly what Jess would say.
Once I call him saying I don't have money for food,
then what do you expect me to do?
Where do you expect me to even live?
I finally had a terrible, terrible mental breakdown
'cause Jess and her coaching Chloe to harass me about money.
I just, I gave in.
I've been pushed into snapping.
I need her to stop and I need help.
Mike thank you for joining us here.
You've been listening, correct?
Yes I have.
Are you parents putting these children
in the middle of a bunch
of adult issues where they shouldn't be?
I believe we are.
I believe we're putting them way too far into adult issues.
Uh-huh.
Have you moved away and emotionally, financially,
behaviorally abandoned this family?
No that's not true at all Doctor Phil.
I moved away because I had to transfer for jobs.
I'm still paying more than half of my check
to them each week or bi-weekly when I was working.
And if a person would abandon them
or a deadbeat father, I would have left
and said see ya, goodbye.
I am not that. You never called me.
What's that?
You never called me the first you moved there.
I have called you.
I have called both you girls.
But the first you moved there,
I didn't get a single phone call.
Oh okay.
Okay.
Well we do have one
of the voicemails you left her
which says your mom is blanking psycho
and I just can't stand her.
So yeah you know what, I do love you
but your mom I blanking hate.
Absolutely.
Is that appropriate?
No it's not.
But when you're pushed.
There's that word but.
But.
No it's not appropriate but I'm gonna now justify it.
Because I was pushed is what you're saying.
It's just to the point where I'll snap.
And I don't care what I say then.
You get to the point where you don't care
if you're emotionally traumatizing your child.
At that point, no.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
How do you even look me in the eyes right now?
I still love you.
You are still a part of me.
That's not love. Stop.
Stop speaking for my daughter.
I am so sick of you always cutting in
and speaking for these children.
You always go, you just don't shut up.
After all the things you've cited
how can you look at me right now?
Explain.
When you say I'm (censored) up.
You called her psycho.
I called your mom psycho.
You called Chloe psycho.
Okay, exactly what your mom says.
She's coaching you 100 percent.
Maybe because we're together all day.
Maybe because you haven't been here in how many years?
Well then I'll come home
and then you won't get the money you wanted.
I'm not gonna come on this show and get beat up.
This is to build a relationship between us
and that's what we're gonna try and do.
Without your mom's anything.
Forget about Doctor Phil and all that.
Let's dad to dad let's just talk.
I've got two.
They're boys but I've got two.
If what you're saying is true.
If in fact they've been programmed.
Then why would you take it out on them?
Wouldn't you want to have compassion for them
and try to unravel that and show them who you really are
instead of who their mother says you are?
Yeah, that's what I would really like to do.