Democrats are branding Trump as a criminal.
>> It's legally pathetic.
>> It's click bait.
>> It is an unbelievable abuse of justice.
>> Pure balderdash.
>> My heart is broken.
I had some tears in my eyes.
>> Looking a little emotional.
I feel the same way.
>> Okay, so you see some people there who are actually aggrieved,
they're feeling rage, they're feeling sadness.
Some of them have been outed already as deeply despising Donald Trump.
But they know that they need to pretend to care about the charges that he's facing.
So they're doing their best.
And at the same time, they're attempting to convince their audience that
the charges that Trump are facing is not just about him and the things that he's
done, this is something much bigger and much more dangerous, watch.
>> If there's a mug shot of Donald Trump, it will be in dorm rooms and on T-shirts.
>> He is an OG.
>> Even if convicted, that's not gonna stop him.
>> Donald Trump could run in park on saying,
I'm gonna pardon myself and go after the deep state.
>> It's not open for a debate that we live in a police state.
>> It's like Stalin's purges.
>> We're crossing the Rubicon here.
>> This is a political Rubicon that has been crossed.
>> They have crossed the Rubicon.
>> Basically, it's one party hunting another.
>> It almost feels like they're pushing the population to react.
>> It is a war on conservatism and MAGA.
>> They want you to strike out.
>> People better be careful.
And that's all I'll say about that.
>> Yes, so, many, many of them saying they want war,
we're gonan give you a couple of examples of that.
In some cases, you have them pushing back saying, don't do that,
don't give them what they want.
But all too often, these pundits are just saying it's almost like they
want you to strike back, back to you.
I feel like you have a responsibility maybe following the coup to say that
violence is a bad thing and we shouldn't pursue it.
But anyway, they're going through a lot clearly.
Yeah, so look guys, there's two different kinds of
political prosecutions, not persecutions, okay?
So, one is politically motivated and
that's the Banana Republic thing that everybody talks about.
I think the best example of that is what they did to Lula in Brazil.
So the right wing saw someone who was in incredibly popular,
progressive, he was in office, and he was among other things,
wanted the natural root source of Brazil to be for the people of Brazil.
I think he was popular.
It was like 78%, etc.
They literally invented corruption charges against him.
And of all people, Glenn Greenwald back when he was saying,
had done brilliant reporting on that and exposed it 100%.
So, that's where you make up evidence and you go and
unjustly imprison a political opponent.
Then there's the other kind where you say, okay,
somebody in power did something wrong, we should hold them accountable.
That is not a Banana Republic.
That's actually the opposite of a Banana Republic.
So for example, in France, Sarkozy has been up on several charges.
He used to be the leader of the country.
Well, yes, but one of them, by the way,
I think I believe is on campaign finance violations.
Well, if you break the law and there's fraud and corruption charges,
Netanyahu is under corruption charges.
So, there's tons of places where there's someone who is in charge that breaks
the law and in a developed country you hold them accountable,
because there is such a thing as rule of law.
So the question isn't, is the person a politician?
Cuz they should never get a pass for being a politician and
they should not be persecuted for being a politician.
The question is, did they break the law or didn't they?
Now, if you notice none of those guys,
they just keep saying, it's ridiculous that they charged him on this.
They don't say that he didn't do it, cuz everyone knows, he definitely did it.
They're just saying, well, it has something to do with sex and
that seems silly.
And now technical violations, bookkeeping.
Now you're supposed to keep your books right.
Yeah, yeah, you're supposed to keep your books right.
>> Something to do with sex didn't matter when Bill Clinton was in office to any of
these people.
>> Yeah, when it was about Bill Clinton it was something far, far, far less.
They're like, brought up, right?
When it's Trump and he's broken half a dozen laws in this one case,
they're like, whatever, man.
Okay, no, whatever man is not a legal defense.
So, and all these guys did none of them even mean it to do what John said earlier.
These guys, half of them, no, what am I talking about?
98% of them hate Trump, right?
So they go out there and they do this performative theatrics,
where they're like, I always cry, I have tears in my eyes, right?
And then they encourage the violence and they're like, I'm not saying people should
do something but, I mean, they need everything but wink, you saw the video.
They're like, they're crossing the Rubicon.
And there's one last thing about crossing the Rubicon.
It's not just threats of potential street violence and
stochastic terrorism, it is a warning.
If you come for our law breakers, we're gonna come for your politicians,
whether they broke the law or didn't break the law, we don't care.
We're gonna pretend this isn't about the law.
We're gonna pretend that we're just randomly prosecuting politicians on
both sides.
So that when I come to arrest your political leaders randomly,
my view followers will say, yeah, we're just striking back.
So what did they didn't break the law?
So what, okay?
They did it to us.
Guaranteed that is what they will say, word for word.
>> Yeah.
>> And the other part of it is that they're saying things just to create
this echo chamber.
And that happens by accident too is that they do create this.
I mean, you looked at the bridge that they showed those people out on.
There aren't a lot of people on the streets upset about this.
They're making this happen because the people that watch their shows are pretty
excited about it and they're wrong about it.
As Johnny pointed out early in the show, New York doesn't release mug shots and
I don't disagree.
That's the only person I don't disagree with,
that mug shot it will be Donald Trump with his million dollar smile.
It's not gonna be some somber guy in a jumpsuit.
It's going to, I would say, become very popular once it's leaked by TMZ or
whoever would let it out.
But, they don't release those things.
You cannot also pardon someone federally, only Governor Hochul,
I think can pardon Donald Trump.
And I don't see that happening.
You can't pardon someone if Trump were to become president, again,
he could not pardon himself in a state crime that will play later in the federal
crimes that he will likely be indicted for.
So, they're just grasping at straws.
I'm sure none of them know who crossed the Rubicon in the first place.
They're saying it because they're saying it.
It was Julius Caesar by the way.
>> I think it was Washington.
>> But it was Washington and then it was, well, he crossed it later,
first American to cross it.
And so, this is the theater of what we knew would happen.
These are scripts that were written weeks ago for when these would come down.
>> Yeah. >> These guests were probably booked weeks
ago for when it came down and here's the fruits of all that.
>> We've touched on this topic, but I wanna set us up for a conversation though.
There have previously been calls by Donald Trump and
many of his supporters to protest.
When he had announced that he was going to be arrested a week and a half ago and
it didn't happen, there were calls for it, and there were many little protests.
There are dozens of them, but anyway, not many people actually came together.
And so far after the indictments have been announced, again,
there have not been a lot of people.
I think 20 people were outside of Mar-a-Lago in a show of support,
if that can be said to be a show of support.
But that wasn't the big day, obviously, the big day potentially is Tuesday and
some people will be there.
We're gonna get to that in one sec.
But first, I just wanna remind you that Marjorie Green is saying that
Democrats want civil war.
I've asked many of the Democrats I know and none of them seem to want civil war,
but she's sure of it.
And then goes on to, again, everybody is convinced that George Soros is
behind this guy that Soros has not donated to and Soros wants full control.
So a little bit of anti-Semitism, Marjorie Green will never learn her lessons, and
she doesn't have to, because there's no accountability.
More importantly though, she says that she's going to New York on Tuesday.
We MUST protest the unconstitutional WITCH HUNT, she says.
Which marks a pretty big change of heart from 13 days ago when she tweeted,
we don't need to protest about the communists Democrats planning
to arrest President Trump.
She at that point was saying, no, when they say that we're gonna protest and
hurt people, that's a false flag, they're gonna do it.
So don't protest, cuz that will set them up to do it.
Less than two weeks later, she is now apparently going to be headed to New York.
And so, the protests thus far, haven't really materialized.
But I am curious what both of you think,
this is the day he'll actually be arrested.
I don't know if between now and then he'll call for them to protest.
He seems to have backed off a little bit on the violent, calls for violence.
Do you think, is she gonna be there or is she gonna be leading the next January 6?
What's going to happen come Tuesday?
Okay, so a couple of things, first of all,
under her own logic, she is the false flag operation.
I don't think that there's a false flag operation.
But she said, man, if anybody goes to protest,
that's the FBI doing a false flag operation.
She said right afterwards, I'm going to protest.
Okay, I mean, should I take you at your word, okay?
>> Green is Antifa.
>> Apparently and deep state, deep state, okay?
I thought she was mainly deep margarine, but okay.
So in her tweet about Soros, this is important, look, important distinction.
Soros didn't give to Alvin Bragg directly and he says he's never met him,
but his political organizations did give to color of change,
which I think is a wonderful organization overall.
But color of change did give a lot of money to Alvin Bragg.
So, it's not to say that Soros money never got to Alvin Bragg, it did.
Jonathan Soros, his son, also donated, but
in his case directly to Alvin Bragg a lot less, but donated to him directly.
So I'm not in the camp of, there are no donors, and
the donors don't matter, and nobody cares about the donors.
I'm in the exact opposite camp.
And if I could, I take all the money out of politics,
including every time of George Soros, and Jonathan Soros, and every other Soros, and
Koch Brothers, and Mercers, and people on both sides, okay?
But she said at the end of her tweet, and
Soros wants war to destabilize America and gain full control.
That's deeply anti-Semitic, okay?
And deranged.
So, let me explain for those of you who might not know, really,
there's a history behind it.
So, in the lead up to World War II,
the fascists said the Jews were responsible for World War I.
They started the war, they start the wars, they're responsible.
Why did they do it?
Cuz they wanna control everything.
I mean, this is as close to word for
word of that kind of fascist propaganda as you will see anywhere.
And there's tons of non-jewish donors that they could pick from,
including corporations, Exxonmobil, Big Pharma.
I mean, my God, the right wing hates Big Pharma.
You could easily say look at Big Pharma donating to x, y, or z, right?
Or to other prosecutors, etc, right?
No, they always picked a Jewish donor, and okay, look,
they're among the donors I wanna get their money out too.
But then to say that he's gonna start a war within the country cuz Soros
alone wants full control, that's not just, guys, first of all,
just now you know the history.
So it's definitely anti-Semitic and it's meant to be anti-Semitic.
But on top of that don't, people in her district,
you don't get that that's deranged?
Here's what the donors want, money.
Nine out of 10 times they want money.
So Exxon Mobil, Pfizer, Sheldon Adelson, Charles Koch,
they all donate so they can get more money, okay?
Having nothing to do with their religion, or background, or
whether they're even a human being.
So now, Soros would say no, he does it out of the goodness of his heart,
he's trying to help different causes, etc.
Maybe you take him out of his word, maybe you don't, I don't care.
Don't take him at his words, say he's a liar, say he just wants the money.
But to say that he wants to start a war so that Americans will murder each other and
that he could have full control, that's deranged.
None of them, Exxon Mobil doesn't want that.
I hate Charles Koch, and he doesn't want that.
Soros doesn't want it.
You'd have to be a lunatic to believe that.
>> Disney, maybe.
>> [LAUGH] Right, you can make a good movie out of it.
>> One thing I will say is that in these calls to arms that are happening and
that I think that the relentless prosecution of the January 6th
offenders is informing the fact that there isn't, I don't and
there's nothing predicted of any kind of in the street violence uprising.
I really think that you have to give credit to the justice department for
what they've been doing with the January 6th defendants,
because this is not just a party anymore.
People are going to jail for a long period of time.
And hopefully these calls to arms that have been going out and calls to take back
our streets or whatever the hell they wanna call it, won't materialize around
the legitimate indictment it would seem with Donald Trump.
>> Last thing on this, if you're a MAGA guy, and you don't believe any of us, and
you love Trump, and you wanna go protest, okay, no problem.
Keep it peaceful if you can, if you're peaceful, I don't mind you pro-
>> Of course-
>> I don't know about anybody else.
None of us mind you protesting, God bless, have added us, okay?
And by the way,
a lot of the people that went on January 6th did not go into the building,
they just came and watched the speech and went home.
Nothing wrong with that, okay?
The people that went into the building, and did the violence, and
threatened the violence is the problem, right?
So, but if you're going to do that, and you might get arrested,
why don't you ask Donald Trump, demand of Donald Trump that he pays the legal fees?
He raised hundreds of millions of dollars for legal defense.
He didn't spend one dime of it on any of you guys, not us.
Who cares about us?
The MAGA guys, the most hard core MAGA guys, who said I'll go to the building for
you, I'll be your private militia for you, I'll execute your vice president for you,
I'll do anything for you.
He hasn't given them a dime.
When are you gonna realize the guy is a conman?
At least ask first, if he's gonna call them martyrs and political prisoners,
ask that he pay for their legal defense,
which he can afford so easily with the money you gave him, is not even his money.
>> Yeah. >> It's the money you gave him.
>> Probably not gonna happen.