I just had some breaking news everybody while we're on air from our colleague Ben glaze who
works in Parliament and is a regular guest on this show at Jeremy corbyn is not going to
stand for the labor party at the next general election Kia Starman has just told a press
conference that he's giving right now into um Labor's historic problems with anti-Semitism
they've just been told by uh the I think it's the equality Human Rights Commission that there is
no longer a problem within the labor party with anti-Semitism that kirst armor has fixed it yay
um and he's giving a press conference about that but he's revealed at that press conference that
Jeremy corbyn the leader he replaced the leader he served under in a shadow cabinet and the the
former leader that he suspended from the labor party over allegations of anti-Semitism or not
doing enough about it is not going to be the labor candidate in his constituency which Jason
is Islington Islington North leadington North yeah how do we feel about this what's what is
all this what's what's the dark background to all of that well the the the from stormer's point of
view the more he can distance himself from corbyn the better um but he's slightly vulnerable to
Tory Tory attacks on the fact that you know he as you said he served under Jeremy corbyn
but the fact that he can say I've moved the party on from that era and I am now so confident of
myself and so in control of my own party but I can say that Corbin will not stand that is
all in starman's favor the downside is that corbyn may stand as an independent in Islington uh which
could split the labor vote now I the problem for corbyn here is although he is very popular
in his seat yeah there is I my experience and my my looking at these things MPS always overestimate
their own personal vote I.E and people go to the polls they vote for VMP but they primarily
vote for the party and a good personal vote can be two or three thousand extra
um a really good one can be up to five thousand it very rarely gets above that generally people
still vote for the parties so Corbin could stand um there's also rumors going around but
Corbin may even find out for his hat moving for the stand for the London mayor of a way
Ken Livingston did against um uh uh Dobson um under Blair that could possibly prove
problematic though sadiq's quite well embedded there if he decides to run for a third term
um so I mean if I was Corbin I'd be weighing up how actually popular I am my own seat um
you're implying here Jason that lots of MPS are raging egotists and think only
about themselves and their own popularity uh so if he's weighing it up he'll be MPS they
like the affirmation and but but I I I'm afraid to say and I I kind of I couldn't
let them down gently on this they're not often nearly as personally popular as they
like to some sort of Imagine yes I think I've lost counter the number of um Showbiz people
and also politicians who've told me the last few weeks they've got ADHD of course you've
got attention deficit darling that's why you do the job it'll be interesting to see what happens
um and of course I'm sure that somewhere at some point might consider trying to buy off
Jeremy corbyn so that he doesn't stand and split the vote with the offer of something else um the
chance to like you say go for the London mayoralty if Khan decides he wants to do something else
um maybe you can't do it as a labor Runner of course because care can't let him back in um there
aren't many other parties that were lit that are sort of in in Corbin's ballpark should we say he's
um he's not going to go and stand for the lib Dems is he uh calf Plummer there says we're waiting for
Jeremy to start a Socialist Party he could go and start his own party that's been done before they
are very expensive though Kath and I'm not sure that Jamie Corbin's got the kind of backers who
have huge amounts of money he did crowdfund a lot of course during his years as labor leader and get
lots of micro payments kind of through from from labor members there are people who would support
that but they're kind of widely dispersed and so the problem with corbyn had I think when he
was running for leader was that his you know the people who felt the same way as soon there may be
a big number of them but they're spread through the constituencies and so there was never enough
to get one constituency really you know lots of constituencies over that barrier so he got some
of his friends are elected but then lost of course quite a few other seats so it's interesting to
see perhaps where Jeremy corbyn ends up I doubt he would accept a seat in the house of laws and
I doubt anyone would offer him one but um he's probably not going to want to go into retirement
on his allotment is he Jason I mean it does I mean I mean he did say the other day he's never
going to retire um I mean he'll always carry on being doing politics in one form another I mean
it is extraordinary but you know but how far the party has moved since he was you know leader just
you know just over three years ago I mean but that and how quickly these things can change
um that we've gone from from you know from from Corbin you know being the leader of a labor party
is not even be able to stand at the next election it's quite something yeah um I mean for good or
bad for labor party uh just to pick up on caps point about starting a new political party I mean
that's not the way the left of the in labor think they've always long realized that the best way of
having influencing and getting any sort of changes to do it within labor as part of a broad Church
rather than a separate entity which actually would actually have marginal influence well we'll have
to wait and see and of course it's also in the same three years we've gone from a labor leader
who had a huge number of you know infighting and and Scandals and Rouse within his own party to
a labor leader who is strong enough to be able to just kick out the last leader this is this is what
this is what power does yeah this is you know inside of that the House of Commons you've had
gone from a leader who in the conservatives he was he was strong enough to win a landslide to
a leader who can't even fire um you know people from his cabinet when they've been accused of
wrongdoing and clean up his reputation you had to wait days before he could find Adam zahawi who
brought back in suela Bradman as you said and now finds himself waiting months while the Dominic Rob
Scandal carries on and causes him a huge number of problems the balance of power has definitely
shifted in the house of House of Commons Mike says the expulsion of Corbin could cause a Ruckus In
the labor party some on the left will no doubt attack starma yeah but he seems strong enough
to withstand him Mike doesn't he um I doubt it's going to do anything to his election prospects
with a wider country uh to to be found to be less of a left-wing loon than corbyn was as far as the
more Dharma can Define himself against the left of a part of a happier he is yeah I mean Blair used
to do the same thing of you know in those days was people like Eric hether on the left of a party who
who saw themselves as a fallen in Blair's side but actually Blair kind of welcomed it because he kept
on saying look I'm not Eric heffer and and Forma that that definition is very valuable what could
prove problematic for starma is if he wins with a narrow majority in the next election or he wins
with a a he quite you know it's a minority and he has to form you know he doesn't get an overall
majority and has to form a kind of government with a Coalition in that point then the left and
there's still one enough all from him a party but 30 MPS and that kind of Corbin Camp then they'd
have quite a lot of Leverage because every vote comes along they can go well look yeah we're not
going to do it unless you do X I think that's why we need to before we move on to some good news and
letting my throat go um bill says there's nothing so that's left in starman's labor party I'm just
about to address this point Bill a lot of people who are pro Corbin uh and pro-socialism and some
of the more radical policies that Corbin had uh would say that starmer is going to not do any of
that and by throwing star uh Corbin out and moving further away from that as Jason has just said that
they are portraying those ideals and are going to be you know kind of a soft Tory kind of government
I would suggest all right that considering history and considering stormers need to get elected
before he can do anything um and considering also some of the stuff that he has signed up
to and spoken about in the past I would suggest that you give the guy the benefit of the doubt
for a bit because I think he could well do some fairly radical things once he's in but it's an
issue of getting in first and you're not going to get in if you are holding hands with Jeremy
corbyn you are going to get in if you say Jeremy corbyn is gone that year is over look at me I'm
more professional and I'm wearing a suit and tie I'm not on my allotment right that's how you get
elected once he's elected then that's the time to worry about whether or not he is doing all
the things that you would want a labor prime minister to do and I hope there's a national
Care Service I hope there's proper recognition for the nuclear test veterans and I hope there's a few
other things that someone did mention to me the other day that he's more of a Clement athlete bit
quieter a bit more boring when may be but actually quite radical so we'll have to wait and see uh
because I think Britain might be ready for some of that stuff now we'll have to find out won't we