>>> I'M ASHAMED THAT I ALLOWED
LIES TO BE TOLD FROM TV SCREENS,
THAT I ALLOWED RUSSIAN PEOPLE TO
BE ZOMBIEFIED.
WE STAYED QUIET WHEN ALL OF THIS
WAS JUST GETTING STARTED IN
2014.
WE DIDN'T COME OUT TO PROTEST
WHEN THE KREMLIN POISONED
NAVALNY.
WE SIMPLY CONTINUED WATCHING IN
SILENCE, THIS INHUMANE REGIME.
NOW THE WHOLE WORLD TURNED AWAY
FROM US.
TEN GENERATIONS OF OUR
DESCENDANTS WON'T BE ABLE TO
WASH AWAY THE SHAME OF THIS
FRATRICIDAL WAR.
>> IT'S THAT MOMENT THAT HAS
BEEN SEEN ALL AROUND THE WORLD
BY THIS POINT.
WE SHOWED THIS TO YOU YESTERDAY.
THAT IS THE BRAVE JOURNALIST WHO
BURST ON TO RUSSIAN STATE TV,
PROTESTING THE WAR IN UKRAINE.
HER MESSAGE, WHICH SHE
PRERECORDED BEFORE THE LIVE
PROTEST ON YOUR SCREENS NOW,
CALLING WHAT HER COUNTRY,
RUSSIA, IS DOING A CRIME AND
URGING OTHER RUSSIANS TO SPEAK
OUT AGAINST IT.
SHE APPEARED IN COURT TODAY,
RECEIVED A FINE OF ABOUT $280
FOR THAT PRERECORDED MESSAGE,
AFTERWARDS TELLING REPORTERS SHE
HASN'T SLEPT IN TWO DAYS, WASN'T
ALLOWED TO MAKE ANY PHONE CALLS
OR TO SEE A LAWYER.
SHE COULD STILL FACE UP TO 15
YEARS IN PRISON FOR HER
TELEVISION PROTEST.
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY
HAD A MESSAGE FOR HER.
HE CALLED HER AN EXAMPLE TO
OTHER RUSSIANS, SAYING THIS.
QUOTE, TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT
AFRAID TO PROTEST BEFORE YOUR
COUNTRY CLOSES TOTALLY TO THE
REST OF THE WORLD, TURNING INTO
A VERY BIG NORTH KOREA, YOU NEED
TO FIGHT.
YOU SHOULDN'T MISS YOUR OWN
CHANCE.
JOINING US NOW, CONGRESSMAN JIM
HIMES OF CONNECTICUT.
CONGRESSMAN, HOW MUCH OF THIS
FOCUS ON GETTING THE DISSENT IN
RUSSIA OUT THERE IS CENTRAL TO
ENDING THE WAR, AND REINING
PUTIN IN?
>> WELL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME,
NICOLE.
IT'S REALLY CRITICAL.
YOU KNOW, PUTIN, THOUGH HE IS
LOSING, IN FACT, ARGUABLY FRRKS
ANY STRATEGIC OR POLITICAL WIN,
ARGUABLY HE'S LOST, HE'S GOT THE
RESOURCES, CERTAINLY THE
MILITARY RESOURCES TO TURN THIS
INTO JUST A LONG-TERM MEAT
GRINDER IN UKRAINE, AND A LOT OF
WHAT WILL STOP HIM FROM DOING
THAT IS IF HE BELIEVES THAT HIS
POLITICAL POSITION INSIDE RUSSIA
IS CHALLENGED, AND THAT'S WHY
THESE REMARKABLE ACTS OF COURAGE
ARE IMPORTANT, AND YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE ONLY GOING ONE WAY.
I MEAN, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF RUSSIANS LOSING
THEIR JOBS EVERY SINGLE DAY, NOT
JUST THOSE THAT ARE WORKING FOR
AMERICAN OR WESTERN COMPANIES,
BUT THOSE WHO INEVITABLY, AS,
YOU KNOW, PARTS FOR AIRPLANES
AND PARTS FOR OTHER EQUIPMENT NO
LONGER IS COMING IN, YOU KNOW,
IT WILL BE, AT THE END OF THE
DAY, THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE WHO PUT
A STOP TO THIS, AND THAT'S WHY
THESE EFFORTS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
>> CONGRESSMAN, SEBASTIAN
YOUNGER WAS JUST ON, AUTHOR OF
THE BOOK "WAR," FAMED WAR
JOURNALIST, DIRECTOR OF A
DOCUMENTARY ABOUT AFGHANISTAN,
AND HE SAID THAT ANYONE WHO
DESCRIBES JOURNALISTS WHO ARE
SHINING A LIGHT ON THE ABUSES IN
UKRAINE AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD
THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE IS IN
BED WITH PUTIN.
IS IN BED WITH OTHER DICTATORS
AND AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS.
HOW MUCH OF THESE SORT OF
RAVAGES OF THE WORLD HAVE THEIR
ORIGINS IN THE PEOPLE DONALD
TRUMP LIFTED UP AND THE ALLIES
HE DIDN'T HELP?
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITMUS TEST,
NICOLE, OF AUTHORITARIANISM, AND
YOU KNOW, AS AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL, I'M THE FIRST TO SAY
THAT THE PRESS, WHICH IS THERE
TO HOLD PEOPLE LIKE ME
ACCOUNTABLE, WILL SOMETIMES BE
REALLY ANNOYING, SOMETIMES THEY
WILL GET THE STORY WRONG, BUT
IT'S PRACTICALLY A MATHEMATICAL
LITMUS TEST.
THE MORE YOU RAIL AGAINST THE
PRESS, THE MORE YOU RAIL AGAINST
THE MEDIA, THE WRONGER YOU ARE,
AND THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO MEDIA
IN NORTH KOREA, AND THAT'S WHY
THERE IS A MEDIA IN THE WEST,
AND OF COURSE, THE REMARKABLE
THING ABOUT THIS, NICOLE, IS
THAT, YOU KNOW, RUSSIA IS NOT
NORTH KOREA.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU CAN CUT
OFF RUSSIANS FROM ACCESS TO
THEIR COUSINS, THEIR FRIENDS,
THEIR BUSINESS ASSOCIATES AROUND
THE WESTERN WORLD, SO YOU KNOW,
THE STORY WILL GET TOLD INSIDE
RUSSIA, AND OF COURSE, YOU MADE
THE COMPARISON TO DONALD TRUMP.
YOU CAN COUNT ON PUTIN AND HIS
PEOPLE SAYING, THIS IS FAKE
NEWS.
>> LITERALLY, THE SAME WORDS.
JUST WITH THE TIME WE HAVE LEFT,
WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE FOR YOU TO
LISTEN TO PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY
TOMORROW IN THAT CHAMBER?
>> WELL, IT'S SORT OF HARD TO
DESCRIBE HOW POWERFUL THE SPEECH
WAS JUST A WEEK AGO WHEN HE
ADDRESSED US A LITTLE LESS
FORMALLY OVER THE WEEKEND.
AND YOU KNOW, HE IS REALLY -- I
MEAN, I WANT TO USE THE WORLD
CHURCHILLIAN, RIGHT?
HE'S A BIG REASON WHY RUSSIA IS
ON ITS KNEES RIGHT NOW, WHY
VLADIMIR PUTIN IS NOT GOING TO
IN ANY STRATEGIC SENSE, GOING TO
WIN THIS WAR, AND HE HAS ALSO
PUSHED US.
HE'S PUSHED US.
MANY OF US BELIEVE THAT A NO-FLY
ZONE IS A STEP TOO FAR, BUT
WE'RE STILL HAVING A VERY
SIGNIFICANT ARGUMENT, DISCUSSION
WITH THE WHITE HOUSE ABOUT THE
PROSKS