[Mooji] We are only looking.
[Mooji] You are not responsible for your identification with something.
[M.] It is the play, they say, of Maya, the cosmic joker [Mooji laughs],
[Mooji] that somehow all the beings have become hypnotised
[Mooji] by coming into form, believing, 'I am the form'.
[Mooji] 'I believe I am the form.' It was not always like this.
Some children display this; they expose it, beautifully.
I remember one of my nephews, I have shared this story before,
when he was only a child, maybe three years old,
his mother called him, 'Shannon, come and eat your dinner'.
And the response came, 'Shannon is not hungry'.
Not 'I', the 'I' was felt apart from that. 'Shannon is not hungry.'
What you are referring to as 'Shannon', is not hungry.
There was a point when you didn't feel, this is you.
When you were learning to operate the machinery,
you didn't feel it was you.
When you got used to it, skilled at doing this,
then you became proud, 'Look what I can do!' [laughter]
But somehow this has ...
The consciousness functioning in the body, it needs the body.
This is not some judgement against the body.
The body is absolutely necessary
for the consciousness to enjoy experiencing.
Without the body, there is no experience.
But it is not the body!
And yet, I can say, at the same time,
consciousness and the body also,
the body is also a form of consciousness.
But in dream also ... You could be sleeping inside a cardboard box
and you may have a dream of visiting other planets
and traveling across so many countries,
having friends, having conversations.
Everything is there. All the elemental world is there.
But when you wake up, you see all of this happened only in your mind.
All of this, the walls were brick and wood was wood,
sun was sun, water was water,
thirst was there, hunger was there,
relationships, broken heart, joy. Everything can be there.
When you wake up, you see that all of this
had the same DNA as consciousness, it's all made out of dream material.
Then that state finishes, now you are in the waking state,
you say, 'That was a dream'.
On hindsight, 'That was a dream'.
Now this one, 'No, this is actual'.
But the point is, the consciousness needs a form,
a unit to express, then to feel, 'I am',
then, 'I am in this', then, 'I am this'.
And this feeling, 'I am this', is the first fall, 'I am this'.
You speak about consciousness, you speak about the world.
Where are you in it? What is your position in it?
Where do you place yourself in this avenue of looking?
[Questioner] It was funny.
I was placing myself outside of all of it. [laughter]
[Mooji] OK! Why not?
Something is aware of all of these things.
You are saying, 'This thing,
I can see the construct of the mind and the construct of a person,
playing out this role, this game; this is all visible here'.
Let's slow down a little bit, because I don't want you to miss.
We don't have to be talking about a hundred and one things.
'I can see all of this, I can see the game that my mind plays.
It is not a nice game, because although I am aware of it,
it goes on! And it is not pretty.' OK?
So this is seen, and it is seen, no?
Then the question comes, where are you in this seeing?
What is your role? What is your position? Who are you?
[Q.] Even the person that is saying,
'This isn't nice, what the mind is doing',
is also not who I am.
[Mooji] Look at that. Look at that. What subtle seeing.
Even the one complaining, 'I don't like this, I want this.
I am tired, I want to get out, nobody likes me', whatever,
even this is being seen. 'But, I am also not this!'
This maybe is the behaviour of some conditioning.
It is acting out like this in my presence.
This is also seen. By what is it seen?
Slow down. By what is it seen?
What are the details of this seer who sees the phenomenal world,
who sees even identity, who sees even identity,
and the play of identity, the roleplay, that which sees even this?
Is it concerned about the roleplay?
Is it suffering from the roleplay?
This seer in whose sight even the idea of myself
is being acted out, in front of this.
It is enough that you establish your true place.
All of this is taking place as an appearance in you.
Some avenues, some directions seem deeply enticing,
'Come, come this way. I will take you to a better place.'
But that is also an image,
a phenomenon appearing in the great seeing.
Be one with the seer, if it means anything to say this to you now.
Register your place.
Acknowledge your position and your perspective.
Who are you, looking?
Do you have investments, intention, desire
for what appears in front of you?
Do you have need, lack?