Speaker 1: Let's now go to someone very different than Chris Christie, and I'm talking about
Ron DeSantis.
Ron DeSantis put forth a plan yesterday on Fox News.
So insane, so ridiculous and so deranged that even Fox News host Martha MACCALLUM is visibly
skeptical and obviously doesn't buy it.
DeSantis was asked whether he wants to eliminate any agencies, and he mentioned not only three
entire agencies, departments, commerce, energy and Education, but he said he would eliminate
the IRS, which is so ridiculous.
But then the thing he says after that is almost worse.
Take a listen.
Speaker 2: Are you in favor of eliminating any agencies?
I know conservatives in the past have talked about closing the Department of Education.
Would you do that?
Speaker 3: So we would do education, we would do commerce, we do energy, and we would do
IRS.
And so if Congress will work with me on doing that, we'll be able to eliminate the size
and scope of government, but also going to do more things.
Be prepared if Congress won't go that far.
I'm going to use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and against the leftism
that we see creeping in to all institutions of American life.
So, for example, with Department of Education, we reverse all the transgender sports stuff.
Women's sports should be protected.
We reverse policies trying to inject the curriculum into our schools.
That will all be gone.
We will make sure we have an accreditation system for higher ed, which is not trying
to foment more things like DII and CRT.
So we'll be prepared to do both.
Either way, it'll be a win for conservatives.
Speaker 1: Imagine for a second if a Democratic presidential candidate said, I will be using
the IRS, the Department of Commerce, the Department of Education, and the Department of Energy
to destroy conservatism.
Imagine for a second if a Democratic president ever said something like that, they would
be calling for their head.
They would be saying lock him or her up.
Rick Wilson tweeted, I'll either eliminate these agencies or use them to destroy my political
enemies.
Set every authoritarian in the history of ever.
This is outrageous.
This is a dangerous extremist.
And by the way, give me a break, dude.
This is in the style of the Trump promises.
Anyone with any common sense knows it will never happen.
He's not going to get rid certainly he's not going to get rid of the IRS.
And I don't think if he was president, he would get rid of the Department of Education
or the Department of Commerce or the Department of Energy, which was the other one.
This is sort of like Mexico is going to build pay to build our wall across the entire U.S.
Mexico border.
And I will solve the U.
At the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in my first term.
We all know you're not doing any of that.
And after the fact, some people defend it by saying, well, it was aspirational.
That's what he wanted to do.
Don't we want to hold our presidential candidates in terms of the promises they make, at least
to some degree, to things that are remotely possible?
So this reminds me of the classic moment where Rick Perry, during his failed bid for the
Republican presidential nomination, also wanted to remove a bunch of departments but forgot
which ones.
This is a classic, and I will tell you.
Speaker 3: It is three agencies of government when I get there that are gone.
Is it commerce, Education and the.
What's the third one there?
Let's see.
Oh five.
Okay.
So Commerce, Education and the EPA.
EPA.
Unidentified: There you go.
No.
Seriously.
Is EPA what you were talking about?
No, sir.
We were talking about the.
Speaker 3: Agencies of government.
The EPA needs to be rebuilt.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Remove them all.
Speaker 3: But you can't name the third one.
The third agency of government.
I would.
I would do away with the education.
Unidentified: The commerce.
Commerce.
Speaker 3: And let's see.
I can't.
Speaker 1: The third.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Listen, they're not getting rid of any of these things, but they are extraordinarily
dangerous people.
And the fact that DeSantis is willing to say, I'll get rid of the IRS, what we, of course,
need to do, if you actually want to take seriously the idea of people who are not paying their
fair share and you actually need to you need to scale up the IRS, need to give the IRS
the resources to actually conduct audits.
And we know that the multiplier effect, the return on IRS audit agents to target extraordinarily
high income individuals is an extremely profitable thing.
And as I've said before, if you hire an irate IRS agent for 70 grand and they're mostly
auditing people making 30 grand, even if those people underpaid their taxes by ten or 15%,
you're not going to recover very much money.
But we know that the very rich, underpaid, I don't mean underpaid from a political or
moral standpoint.
I just mean they're not paying what the law currently says they should pay based on the
tax code.
It's not legal loopholes.
They're just they're just putting in the wrong information.
They're not paying what they should pay.
Under current law.
It's extremely profitable from the standpoint of what you pay the IRS agents versus what
you end up recovering and people who didn't pay what they're supposed to pay.
That's the direction we should go.
Not getting rid of the IRS.
But again, it's another one of these virtue signals.
IRS is now bad.
It's political, it's, you know, armed agents, blah, blah, blah.
Ron DeSantis, even if he becomes president, is not getting rid of the IRS.
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