Speaker 1: OK, so over the weekend, there was a Fox News Channel interview, the interviewer
was Laura Ingram.
The interviewee was the former President Donald Trump.
This is a very relevant interview for the next two election cycles now that it's clear
they would try the coup again if they could.
Now that it's clear Donald Trump is planning to be involved in 2022 and quite plausibly
in 2024.
Now that we know that the coup had a power point, I mean, all of this stuff.
This must be taken really, really seriously.
So we're going to go through a number of different lies told by Trump, but we're going to really
build to the commentary about what may be coming in the future for the United States.
Speaker 2: So first, just to Speaker 1: reintroduce us to the uncontrollable
Speaker 2: lying Donald Trump Speaker 1: again makes very
Speaker 2: deceptive and untrue Speaker 1: claims about gas
Speaker 2: prices.
Speaker 1: Now why the gas price issue is even an issue.
Speaker 2: Remember, there's a lot of people who play the political football
Speaker 1: of blaming or praising presidents for high or low gas prices, depending on what
is convenient.
Based on your Partizan affiliation, I don't play that game.
Presidents have almost nothing to do with gas prices, but Trump plays the game, he says
when he left office.
Gas was at a dollar 87, and now it's at seven 77 in California.
Those numbers sound weird.
They should.
And let's look at the clip first.
Speaker 6: You look at gas prices.
The gasoline was at one point eighty seven cents a gallon, and now in California, it's
over $7 777 to be exact, and it's going to be catching up with a lot of other parts of
the country.
So.
Speaker 2: OK, so Speaker 1: it's all either
Speaker 2: a lie or deceptive.
Speaker 1: When Trump left office, Speaker 2: gas was a dollar
Speaker 1: eighty seven, he says that's not true.
When Trump left office, gas was 242.
So is it higher today?
Yes.
But was it a dollar?
Eighty seven?
No.
When Trump left office, it was 30 percent higher at 2:42.
Trump says gas is now 777 in California.
And what's dishonest about that?
Well, even if it were true that gas prices are 777 in California.
Comparing California to the national number doesn't make sense.
The official national gas price is now 349.
Speaker 2: So you don't compare Speaker 1: 187
Speaker 2: or the real Speaker 1: number to
Speaker 2: 42.
A year ago, Speaker 1: or when you left office to a specific
gas station in California, that doesn't make sense.
You compare it to the official number in the U.S., and that is now 349.
It's 349 instead of 242.
Is gas more now than Speaker 2: when Trump left?
Speaker 1: Yes, it is dramatically.
It's a dramatically smaller gap than what Trump claimed.
Speaker 2: And remember, presidents Speaker 1: don't control gas prices.
Now lastly, even the California number is Hawaii California gas right now.
The national, the official, the official state number is 460, not 777.
Is there some gas station in California Speaker 2: where super
Speaker 1: premium maybe was 777?
Speaker 2: Maybe.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: But that's not how you look at.
No.
Speaker 2: So it's all lies and he keeps telling them.
Speaker 1: Trump then says, and this is totally unintelligible.
He's like his brain is glitching.
It's like mayonnaise or vegan.
Ms. Trump claims Democrats are going to try to use the debt ceiling for the Supreme Court
and other stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what he's saying.
Take a listen Speaker 6: to absolutely kill that.
Now they're going to use it for the Supreme Court.
And even worse than that, they could have used it for the so-called voting rights, which
is a disaster for our country.
And certainly it's a disaster for the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to pass.
But Arizona, just off the wall, off the wall, no idea what mechanisms he is even referring
to.
Trump was then asked about invoking or attempting to invoke executive privilege, even though
he's no longer president over documents related to the Jan. six Trump riots.
And he again says there was no insurrection on January six.
The insurrection was Election Day, Speaker 2: November of 2020.
Speaker 1: This is his new talking point, and I'll explain it in about and hear about
the executive privilege and Biden's decision to release those documents.
Your reaction tonight?
Speaker 6: Well, we're going to have to see what happens if you look at the protests,
there was a protest.
The insurrection took place on November 3rd, which was Election Day.
This was a protest and a lot of innocent people are being hurt.
A lot of innocent people are being injured.
I would say the panel of judges that we're talking about didn't exactly like Trump.
And if you look at the appointments, you can figure that one out for yourself.
But this was a absolute protest and people are being treated very, very unfairly.
There were.
Rights are being taken away from them, and the other side is not, you take a look at
what's going on with BLM and Antifa.
What they did in Portland and Minneapolis and Seattle, and nothing happens.
But what happened, by the way, people were killed.
Nobody was killed here other than Ashley Babbitt, who was shot violently by a man that should
not have ever been allowed to pull that trigger.
So this granny is separate, but OK.
Speaker 1: So, so the the talk the story Speaker 2: is, Trump
Speaker 1: says.
What happened on Speaker 2: January six was not a
Speaker 1: coup.
It was not an insurrection, and my supporters weren't violent.
It was BLM and antifa if anyone was violent, but otherwise it was a peaceful protest.
The real insurrection was when they stole Speaker 2: it from me, him
Speaker 1: in November of Speaker 2: 2020.
And he also Speaker 1: continues to
Speaker 2: insist that all of Speaker 1: these hundreds of
Speaker 2: defendants, the rioters were actually Speaker 1: innocent and now are being treated
poorly.
It's wild.
I mean, these and now is where it starts to get
Speaker 2: dangerous because people believe this stuff
Speaker 1: and they're going to try it again in 2024 with Trump or with someone else.
Trump then attacked attacks the make up of the January 6th committee and says they aren't
real Republicans.
It's only Kinzinger and Cheney.
But why is that?
Well, let's look at the clip, and then I'll explain.
Speaker 6: We have Lindsey, Liz Cheney and Kinzinger.
Two people that should not be on that committee.
We don't have Republicans on the, I call it, the select committee of Democrat partizans.
It's ridiculous what's going on with it.
And he has done a terrible job.
You have the, I call it, the infrastructure bill because it's not infrastructure.
Speaker 1: So Trump says they don't have real Republicans.
They only have people Speaker 2: like Adam
Speaker 1: Kinzinger and Liz Cheney.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because other Republicans abandoned
Speaker 1: the initial plan for the committee and said, we're not going to participate,
which made Nancy Pelosi have to go out and find Republicans willing to be on it.
Does it mean Speaker 2: we wouldn't prefer a different
make Speaker 1: up of the.
No, of course not.
But come on, it's another deceptive claim.
So here's what's very clearly going on.
Trump is dramatically accelerating the pace of his media interviews over the last two
weeks.
Why the 2022 midterms are about to start is ramping up for 2022.
He wants to be the kingmaker.
He wants people donating to him so that through his PAC, he can support candidates.
Speaker 2: He is definitely going to be involved in campaigns in 2022.
Speaker 1: And then.
This is all part of the buildup Speaker 2: to try again
Speaker 1: with any means Speaker 2: necessary, any means they
Speaker 1: can get away with in 2024.
There is no doubt now whether the candidate will be Trump.
That's a different question.
We don't know the answer to that yet.
Over the last 10 days, more and more people saying it's going to be Trump.
I think his health may be the biggest limiting factor.
We just don't know yet.
Speaker 2: But this is building.
Speaker 1: He's doing interviews more and more
Speaker 2: frequently to sell the book, sure, Speaker 1: but also because we are about to
get very much in with what might be some of the most anticipated.
I mean, it sounds cliche, but in a way what is going to happen?
Speaker 2: We all Democrats Speaker 1: lose everything other than the
White House in November Speaker 2: of twenty two or
Speaker 1: not, and Trump wants
to Speaker 2: be very much involved.