TWO MONTHS AFTER PRESIDENT
PUTIN, AND HERE'S THE INTERVIEW
WE CONDUCTED A SHORT TIME AGO.
JOINING ME IS THE FORMER
PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, MR.
POROSHENKO.
THANK YOU FOR SPENDING A FEW
MINUTES HERE.
LET ME JUST START WITH WHAT YOU
ARE SEEING IN KYIV.
YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF A
BOMBED-OUT BUILDING AND THE
SUPPOSED PROMISE THAT RUSSIA
MADE IN TURKEY THAT THEY WERE
BACKING OFF THEIR MILITARY
ONSLAUGHT OF KYIV.
WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE LAST
24 HOURS, SIR?
>> I SEE EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOU
SEE.
THIS IS A CIVILIAN OBJECT,
CIVILIAN BUILDINGS, WHICH WAS
ATTACKED AND DESTROYED BY
RUSSIAN MISSILES.
THIS IS A VERY BRIGHT
DEMONSTRATION ABOUT THE DAILY
ESCALATION A LA PUTIN.
AND, IF YOU -- I'M NOT SURE THE
MICROPHONE IS WORKING VERY
EFFICIENT, BUT YOU CAN NOW HEAR
THE ARTILLERY FIRE, AND THE ROCK
LAUNCH SYSTEM HAPPENS JUST MAYBE
SEVEN KILOMETER FROM HERE, FROM
RUSSIAN ARTILLERY POSITION,
FIGHTING, SHELLING ON THE
CIVILIAN OBJECT.
WE ARE NOW IN THE NORTHERN
BORDER OF KYIV, AND TO THE
RUSSIAN POSITION, AGAIN, THIS IS
SIX KILOMETERS.
THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION THE WAR
IS IN A VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND
TODAY IS EXACTLY FIVE WE'RE OF
THE HEROIC FIGHTING OF ALL
UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
YOU DO AS EXACTLY ANY DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENT IN MY SHOES, WE ARE
PROTECTING, DEFENDING UKRAINIAN
PEOPLE.
WE ARE TOGETHER WITH OUR TROOPS
STOPPING THE RUSSIAN AGGRESSION.
>> GIVEN WHAT WAS DEEMED AS A
POTENTIAL START OF A
BREAKTHROUGH IN PEACE TALKS WITH
THE RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS, THE
FACT THEY'RE NOT EVEN ABIDING BY
WHAT THEY SAY, HOW DO YOU
NEGOTIATE WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS
YET TO BE HONEST WITH ANYTHING
THEY HAVE PROMISED?
>> SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
CONDITION NUMBER ONE, PLEASE
DON'T TRUST PUTIN.
I AM THE PRESIDENT WHO HAD
NEGOTIATIONS WITH PUTIN FOR FIVE
YEARS.
HE GAVE KEEPS HIS WORDS.
AND IT'S STARTING -- TWO DAYS
BEFORE THE AGGRESSION AND THE
WAR STARTED, HE PROMISED NOT TO
LAUNCH THE AGGRESSION.
NUMBER TWO, DON'T BE AFRAID OF
PUTIN.
POINT NUMBER THREE, UKRAINE
NEVER GIVES UP, AND THE
TERRITORY OF UKRAINE CANNOT BE
PART OF THE COMPROMISE.
THE CONSTITUTION, I'M VERY MUCH
HAPPY THAT YOU'LL UKRAINIANS
TOGETHER, STARTING WITH ME AND
THE PRESIDENT AND ALL THE WAY
AROUND, CONFIRMING THIS IS NOT
POSSIBLE.
FROM OUR PARTNERS IN THE WORLD,
WE NEED SANCTIONS AND MORE
WEAPONS.
>> CRIMEA AND THE DONBAS
REGIONS, CAN THIS BE PART OF
THE --THE
NEGOTIATION.
>> IT WILL BE PART OF -- RUSSIA
HAS ABSOLUTELY THE SAME, ZERO
REASON TO DEMAND CRIMEA OR
DONBAS.
IF WE ALLOWED PUTIN TO SPEAK
ULTIMATUM LANGUAGE, THE WAR
NEVER ENDED, PUTIN NEVER
STOPPED.
WE THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY
UNACCEPTABLE WHEN WE ACCEPT THE
PRESS DIDN'T TO CHANGE THE
BORDER BY FORCE IN THE 21st
CENTURY.
DEFINITELY UNACCEPTABLE.
DEFINITELY WE CAN DO THAT WITH
THE STRONG SUPPORT OF THE FREE
WORLD.
PLEASE LAUNCH EXACTLY LIKE YOU
DO IN WORLD WAR II.
PLEASE LAUNCH SECOND TRANCHE,
EVERYTHING BUT SOLDIERS, BUT
SANCTIONS TO EMBARGO, AND I
WOULD NOT ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT
THAT PUTIN CANNOT KEEP GOING AND
RUSSIAN TROOPS WOULD BE
WITHDRAWN FROM UKRAINIAN
TERRITORY.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT
YOU THINK THE FACT THAT RUSSIA
ASK WANTING TO NEGOTIATE IS A
POINT THE WEAKNESS.
THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T TAKE THE
COUNTRY, SO THEY'RE DESPERATE TO
COME AWAY WITH SOMETHING.
SHOULD THAT BE --
>> FIRST OF ALL, I NEVER -- WE
NEVER GIVE UP.
FIRST OF ALL, WE NEVER HAVE ANY
DOUBTS THAT UKRAINE WILL WIN,
BUT PLEASE DON'T BE -- PUTIN
TACTICS.
PUTIN, WHEN HE SAID HE WITHDRAW
HIS TROOPS FROM KYIV, THIS IS
NOT TRUE.
>> RIGHT.
>> THIS IS AGAIN THE NOT
DEESCALATION.
HE TOOK IT FOR REGROUPING TO
ATTACK KYIV AGAINST.
WE DON'T HAVE IN ILLUSION THAT
PUTIN WILL CONTINUE, AND THAT'S
WHY THE SHORTEST WAY TO
THEPATHY, SHORTEST WAY WOULD BE
SUPPLY WEAPONS TO DEFEND.
>> WHAT AREN'T YOU GETTING THAT
YOU WOULD LIKE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED
ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES, BECAUSE
WE CAN FOR THE GIVE THEM THE
AIRSPACE.
THIS IS A CIVILIAN OBJECT ABOVE
THE POWER STATION, AND
DEFINITELY WE SHOULD -- WITH
SIGNIFICANT ELEMENT FOR OUR
VICTORY.
WE DEFINITELY NEED ANTITANK
ROCKET LAUNCHERS, TANKS AND
PERSONNEL VEHICLES.
THIS IS NOT A FORTUNATE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT, I WAS
COMMANDER OF THE FORCES FOR FIVE
YEARS.
AND MAYBE 1,000-TON PERSONNEL
CARRIER.
THIS WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE
PICTURE.
PLEASE, HELP US TO SAVE YOU.
>> FINAL QUESTION IS THIS -- CAN
THIS WAR REALLY END PEACEFULLY
WITH PUTIN STILL IN POWER IN
RUSSIA?
>> DIFFICULT QUESTION.
I BELIEVE, YES.
>> HOW?
>> WHERE THIS SITUATION -- WE
DON'T KNOW WHEN IT CAN BE
POSSIBLE, BUT IF IT WOULD BE --
IF IT WILL BE EMBARGO, THE
CONFLICT INSIDE RUSSIA, BRINGING
PUTIN TO THE DECISION TO
WITHDRAW RUSSIAN TROOPS FROM THE
UKRAINIAN TERRITORY.
DEFINITELY IT CAN STOP THE WAR.
UNITY INSIDE THE COUNTRY CAN
BRING PUTIN TO THE DECISION TO
STOP THE WAR.
I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT.
>> MR. POROSHENKO, YOUR WORDS