Cheyenne's boyfriend Blake says Cindy
is really using Cheyenne and ruining her future,
ruining her credit, ruining everything about her.
Now Cindy's younger daughter Cherokee says
that she knew early on to distance herself
from her mother and has no intention
of ever taking care of her.
Take a look.
I think my mom should get a job.
She's been dependent on someone her whole life.
It was first her parents and then her first husband
and then my dad and then my aunt.
So my mom is planning on and wants to
live with my sister for the long haul.
I don't think it's fair.
My sister has never had a childhood
because she's been taking care of my mom.
I think my mom is manipulating Cheyenne
to feel as though she's this monster
or this bad daughter and she has been
guilt tripping her for years.
She'll start to pull a card saying you know,
you're my daughter, you're supposed to take care of me,
saying I just wanna go to sleep and never wake up
or I just wanna curl up in a ball and die.
My mom is a negative energy in the home for Cheyenne.
(sighing)
Well thank you for joining us.
You have a different dynamic with your mother
than your sister does.
Yes.
Tell me why.
I stayed with my dad so I grew up kind of with my dad
going to high school and then afterwards,
I decided I wanna go to college outside of the state
and so I've just kind of been removed
physically too, so.
Right.
Do you think she's as sick as she says she is?
I do believe that she is in pain
every day with her arthritis in her knees and everything.
I feel as though that she is more sick
mentally and that's kind of making
the physical pain worse.
What are you gonna do here?
What do you want from your mother?
Tell her what you want from her that you're not getting.
I would like help for myself
by you helping yourself.
I would like you to start figuring out
where you can live on your own
separate from me.
I can't do it anymore.
I just like to be respected as my own person
with my own life and to be given
the space to go ahead and pursue it.
(applauding)
What do you think about what she's saying?
I agree, I want her to have that.
I do.
I just, I don't know where to turn.
If this is 100% of what you can do every day,
you'll just, a yard stick,
just figure a yard stick, that's 100% of the
everything you can do every day.
How much of that do you think you're doing
on a daily basis now?
Probably 20, 30%.
Okay, so you could do much more than you're doing.
Well, I don't know if.
(laughing)
There's a lot more that could be done, yes.
I don't have, it hurts. (laughing)
Right.
I mean, it hurts a lot.
Okay.
What are you so frustrated about?
I didn't know they felt this way.
How could you not?
I mean really, how could you not know
that this is how they feel?
Because whenever she pushes back,
you get really upset with her, right?
Have you thrown things at her,
have you yelled at her, have you guilt induced her,
have you done things that have really
vented your frustration? No.
You have threatened suicide
and I think that's horrible to say to a child.
I just want help.
You seem to me to be capable of doing
a lot more than you're doing
and when I say that, you go, yeah,
well but I'm in pain.
A lot of us are in pain every day.
(applauding) I mean,
I know that you haven't lost your,
I know you raised this girl, you raised this girl
and they seem to me to have turned out
pretty damn well because most of what you did
you did before you checked out
and you can check back in.
That's what I want,
it is. You just don't know how.
Right.