>>> A NEW BOOK OUT BY HOWARD JACOBSON TAKES A FAIRY TALE TO
DONALD TRUMP. THE TITLE OF THE BOOK IS
SOMETHING I CAN'T SAY ON AIR BUT YOUR PRESIDENT DID ONCE BRAG ON
TAPE THAT IF YOU'RE FAMOUS, HE THINKS YOU CAN GRAB IT WITHOUT A
WOMAN'S CONSENT. JOINING ME NOW IS HOW HOWARD
JACOBSON AUTHOR OF THIS NEW BOOK -- WE BLURRED IT OUT.
TALK ABOUT THIS BOOK. YOU ESSENTIALLY MADE A SATIRE OF
A PRINCE WHO BECOMES RULER OF THE WORLD.
EXPLAIN. >> YES, I DON'T SUPPOSE IT'S
ANYBODY YOU IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE.
ISN'T IT WONDERFUL YOU CAN'T HAVE THE TITLE AND YOUR
PRESIDENT CAN SAY IT. THAT'S A FANTASTIC THING.
>> IRONY. >> FANTASTICALLY FUNNY AND THERE
WAS -- IT WAS THE MOMENT WHEN THE LAUGHTER STOPPED FOR MONTHS
WHEN CERTAINLY FROM WHERE I WAS IN LONDON WATCHING TRUMP'S RISE
AND NOT BELIEVING ANYTHING WOULD COME OF IT.
IT JUST SEEMED AMUSING. THEN THE LAUGHTER SUDDENLY
STOPPED. HE WAS THERE, HE WAS GOING TO BE
PRESIDENT AND YOU FELT -- I FELT ANY WAY ONE HAD TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS. ONE HAD TO KEEP ONE'S SENSE OF
HUMOR OTHERWISE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE IF YOU FORGET TO LAUGH
BUT THERE WAS A NEW HORROR, COULD THIS BE?
HOW COULD ONE FIND A FORM TO EXPRESS THE SHOCK ONE FELT, THE
SENSE OF ABSURDITY AND DREAD AND THE DISBELIEF.
ONLY A FAIRYTALE COULD DO IT. YOU KNOW HOW FAIRYTALES WILL GET
THE I AM PROBABLE WITH THE SINISTER AND THIS WAS ALL OF
THESE THINGS. IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, IT WAS I AM
PROBABLE AND COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED.
IT WAS ABSURD BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY FRIGHTENING.
I CHOSE THE FAIRYTALE MODE WHICH MAKES ALL OF THAT POSSIBLE AND
SIMPLY DEAL WITH THIS LITTLE GUY
FRACKASUS, A BABY TRUMP, THE
PARTICULAR PERSON I'M PARODYING NEVER GREW UP ANYWAY.
>> THERE'S A PART IN THE FICTIONAL PLACE WHERE ON HIS
DEATH BED THE FORMER RULE TELLS THE TRUMP LIKE CHARACTER, THE
SECRET TO LEADERSHIP, THE SECRET YOU SHOULD NEVER KEEP A SINGLE
PROMISE YOU MAKE. YOU ASK ME ARE THE PEOPLE
STUPID. VERY FAR FROM IT.
THEY CAN SMELL A FRAUD A THOUSAND MILES AWAY.
ASK ME IF THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM AND THE ANSWER IS A
RESOUNDING NO BECAUSE THE WEAKNESS IS THEY LOVE A
FRAUDSTER.
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE LOVE TO BE TRICKED BY A FRAUDSTER?
>> HOW ELSE DO YOU EXPLAIN IT? WE HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS BACK IN
ENGLAND, BELIEVE ME BUT YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT THE PEOPLE ARE
COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR BRAIN OR YOU CAN'T STOP -- CAN'T LEAVE
THAT WITH YOUR XPLANATION. YOU HAVE TO ASSUME SOMEWHERE
THAT THERE IS SOME SMARTNESS IN VOTERS IN WHICH CASE WHY WOULD
THEY VOTE FOR WHO THEY ARE VOTING FOR.
THEY MUST ACTUALLY EITHER WANT TO DO THEMSELVES SOME HARM,
INTERESTED IN THAT THOUGHT IS SELF-DESTRUCTION IN THE AIR HERE
IN BOTH OF OUR COUNTRIES OR IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY LACK
CONSPIREING, AN ACT OF SPITE AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE.
THEY LIKE CONSPIREING WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS SOMEHOW JUST NOT
RIGHT, WHO IF HE DOESN'T TELL LIES TALKS NONSENSE, WHO USES
VERY SMALL WORDS, WHO APPEALS TO THE MOST STUPID PART OF
THEMSELVES. I WAS INTERESTED IN THIS IN
EXAMINING ALL OF THAT, WHAT IS IT IN OUR CULTURE THAT MAKES US
VOTE FOR WHO WE'RE VOTING FOR? WHY ARE WE ARE DOING IT?
I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION HOW WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
GROTESQUERY THAT YOU'RE LANDED WITH AND BEFORE LONG WE'RE ALL
GOING TO BE LANDED WITH. >> AS YOU ARE A GENTLEMAN FROM
THE UNITED KINGDOM, I HAVE TO ASK YOUR RESPONSE -- WE'VE EVEN
THREATS AGAINST THEATERS IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE SHAKES
PEER IN THE NAME AND SPONSORS PULLING OUT OF A PRODUCTION OF
JEEL YUS CAESAR AND SOME SPONSORED THE VERY SAME KIND OF
SHOW BUT WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS THE ONE BEING DEPICTED AS JULIUS
CAESAR. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF ALL OF THAT?
>> IF IT IF IT WASN'T THAT I RUY MICROPHONE, I WOULD TEAR MY HAIR
OUT. IT'S WONDERFUL INTERESTING.
DOESN'T IT JUST SHOW THAT CROWD THAT TRUMP AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT
HIM DON'T KNOW WHAT A PLAY IS. THEY THINK A PLAY MAKES A
STATEMENT AND A RECOMMENDATION. IF SOMEBODY DIES IN A PLAY THEY
THINK THAT IS TELLING PEOPLE GO OUT AND KILL PEOPLE.
THE SUBTLETY OF A DRAMA AND LANGUAGE OF DRAMA IS COMPLETELY
LOST ON THEM. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER IRONY, I
SEEM TO REMEMBER IN THE RUN-UP TRUMP SORT OF IMPLYING MAYBE
HILLARY MIGHT HERSELF GET ASSASSINATED.
IF THERE IS VIOLENCE IN THE AIR AT THE MOMENT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP
HAS TO ASK HIMSELF, WHERE IS THIS VIOLENCE COMING FROM?
ISN'T IT A VIOLENCE HE HIMSELF LAUNCHED INTO THE CULTURE.
BUT THE MAIN THING FOR ME -- I'M A WRITER, THE SUBTLETY IS
WRITING IS WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. HOW CAN THEY NOT KNOW WHAT A
PLAY IS? >> THAT IT'S FICTIONAL.
HOWARD JACOBSON, THE TITLE, YOU CAN MAB WHAT IT IS AND TRUMP
SAID YOU CAN GRAB IT. WE WISH YOU VERY GREAT LUCK WITH
IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED. >> CHEERS.
ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE GO, TODAY IS FATHER'S DAY.
WE'VE GOT OURSELVES A FOOTBALL HERE AND A DRILL THAT'S ACTUALLY
SOCKS AND A TIE. GET YOURSELF A LAST MINUTE
FATHER'S DAY GIFT. WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
CELEBRATE THE DADS AND FATHERS OF THE AM JOY STAFF AND THEIR
DADS, THE CREW AND CAST OF THIS SHOW, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL
AND HERE THEY ARE. SNOEPT SNOEPT
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♪♪ >> HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL.
BEFORE WE GO, YESTERDAY I ATTEND A CAROL FAMILY REUNION.
BIG SHOUT OUT TO MY WONDERFUL FAMILY.
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO EVERYONE. THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. COMING UP NEXT, WHAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP MEANT WHEN HE TWEETED HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION.
NEW REACTION FROM ONE OF HIS PERSONAL