[Paul Hunter] Why Bernie?
Well, no the question is why not Bernie?
Why would we go anywhere else at this point?
In order to beat Trump.
In order to have this country behave the way it should behave.
Where nobody has to worry about getting sick and losing their home.
Go down the whole list of things.
Why not Bernie?
Who would work for $7.25 an hour?
This is our moment and this is our chance.
And believe you me the powers that be especially on the Democratic side
they don't want to see Bernie happen.
And they're they're in for a rude awakening I think.
Trump is calling him a communist.
Because he knows a lot of people are afraid of socialism or democratic socialism.
So where does that go?
You should put together a clip thing on the CBC of
everybody who called Franklin Roosevelt a communist.
That was the number one thing he was called.
Thank God for the things that he stood for .
Okay, we gotta go.
But it's the Canadians.
[Laughter]
Look at this.
They'll just interrupt you, you know.
The Canadians will never say, "Wait a minute, we're talking to him."
[Paul] Wait a minute we're talking to him -- there, see?
Oh, that's good.
[Paul] I'm learning.
[Michael] Practice that.
Répéter s'il vous plaît.
Wait a minute we're talking to him.
Alright.
[Paul] Would you please finish your thought?
Are Americans too afraid of socialism
or as Trump would have it, communism, to vote for Bernie Sanders?
[Michael] No, Americans are not afraid of us taking care of ourselves.
We're the richest country on Earth.
It's absolutely insane that we treat each other this way.
That we allow our schools to be this way.
That we don't have daycare.
We don't have all these things that we should have.
And we have a better chance of that with Bernie Sanders than anybody else.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.
[Paul] You wanted to finish your thought.
[Michael] Yeah and you had another question.
[Paul] Yeah, well
what's the argument against the safe choice.
The the comfortable --
I'm talking about Joe Biden.
Bring the moderates.
The Republicans you need in this in the handful of states that matter
including yours in Michigan.
You know what I mean?
[Michael] This is gonna be decided in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania .
That's really it.
And so I know what will work there.
Safe will not work.
Biden, we will lose.
Because Biden is Hillary.
And Hillary is Dukakis and Mondale and Gore and Kerry
and every time we lose it's always because we're trying to play it safe.
And, you know, how did Trump win?
Playing it safe?
No.
First he fought the Republican Party.
He took on the entire Republican Party apparatus and tore it down.
Then he tore down every candidate one by one.
It looked so impressive to his base that he could do that.
They just got all excited about what else could he do to bring down the enemy.
So if we're not up to fighting that
we're in deep deep trouble.
If we just put up the same old same old
we're not going to inspire young people.
We're not gonna inspire people of colour
to come out there and do the job that needs to be done.
No, I'm sorry.
No 29-year-old is gonna wake up on Election Day and go
I can't wait to vote for Joe Biden.
It's just not gonna happen.
I watched your debate on C-Span.
The Canadian debate for the five parties that you have.
Five.
You only have 34 million people, 35 million people.
You got five -- you know why you have five parties?
Because two parties cannot represent the spectrum
of political thinking amongst 35 million people.
So you have to have these that --
And then they have to come together in parliament and compromise
form coalitions, whatever.
Get along
and do what's best for Canada.
This is so sad.
Where we are at.
And you must looking at us.
You must just --
Because I know you like us.
And you've met enough of us to know we are good people.
[Paul] A lot of you are.
[Michael] Yeah.
The rest, it takes a little while.
We're a little slow sometimes.
You a legalized marijuana first.
Gay marriage first.
You have your health care.
Oh, there's the signal.
[Paul] Thanks man.
[Michael] Thank you, I appreciate it.
I just want to say this about the CBC.
I grew up -- as a teenager
I had the good fortune of living right across the river from Canada.
And the CBC and that at 9 p.m. news show.
[Paul] The National?
[Michael] The National.
[Paul] That's the show I work for.
[Michael] Is that right?
Well, as a teenager, the 6:30 news would come on in the U.S.
but at 9 o'clock, we'd learned the truth about Vietnam from the Canadians.
The CBC covered the war
in a somewhat dispassionate, you know from a distance way.
But told the truth that we were not being told
two and a half hours earlier on our nightly news.
And I have always appreciated the fact that we could pull in Channel 9 from Windsor
and be able to know how we were not being told the truth.
So I've been eternally grateful to Canadians for that.
So thank you.
[Paul] Thank you for saying so.
[Michael] And to the CBC, I mean it.