At least eight of the 16 Trump electors being investigated by
the Fulton County District Attorney have accepted immunity deals.
That's right, eight of 16 have accepted immunity deals.
The District Attorney, Fani Willis has reportedly told these eight that they will
not be charged if they testify truthfully about what they know about Trump and
his cohorts efforts to overturn Joe Biden's win in the Peach State.
And we got this tweet for you from the Washington Post.
Willis has said that the meeting of Trump's electors on December 14, 2020,
despite Republican Governor Brian Kemp's certification of Biden's win,
is a key target of her investigation, along with Trump's phone calls to multiple
state officials and his campaign's potential involvement in an unauthorized
breach of election equipment in rural Coffee County, Georgia.
And the potential impact of these immunity deals looks like this.
So the news that some, but likely not all of the electors will not be charged raises
new questions about the scope of Willis's examination of the meeting of electors,
all of whom she had previously identified as criminal targets in her investigation.
The electors who accepted immunity did so
without any promise that they would offer incriminating evidence in return,
and they all have stated that they remain unified in their innocence and are not
aware of any criminal activity among any of the other electors, Debrow said.
Now this news of the immunity deal, it comes a little over about a week after
Fani Willis had announced that any criminal indictment she would issue would
be issued between July 11th and September first.
Now, Willis had to essentially push back her original timeline,
given the reports that the elector's attorneys had not
told them about her offering these immunity deals.
So clearly now we can decipher that these electors now know, and
at least eight of 16 of them have accepted those deals,
which means that hopefully they will speak honestly and give us the whole truth and
nothing but the truth as it concerns Trump and co trying to overturn the Georgia
election results down there for the President, Cenk.
>> So I have mixed feelings about this story.
The part that I'm a little worried about is every once in a while there'll be
a breaking story about how Trump's gonna get indicted and my God,
this time they got him, this time they got him.
And then that just repeats hundreds of times over and over and over again.
The MSNBC crowd goes nuts, but they never actually get him, right?
On the other hand, it could be super impactful, why this particular story?
Because to me, the most important thing out of all of the potential charges
against Donald Trump is the fake electorate scheme, cuz that's the one that
was the coup, that was the political coup against this country.
It wasn't the riot, the riot was just supposed to delay things for
a little while and scare the Congress people so
that they would not certify the election.
Once they didn't certify the election,
which is an irregular process that the writers were trying to interrupt,
they were then going to bring in the fake electors, the ones that were going
to say that Donald Trump had won when they knew that he had not won, right?
Now, to what degree did those electors know it, or were they just
brainwashed zombies that believe in 2000 Mules and all that nonsense?
Was there a conversation among the Trump administration and the electors,
or Trump himself and the electors acknowledging that they knew they
had lost, but were gonna try to rig the election in their favor anyway?
Now, if they have that, that's gold, okay?
And then you convict them of something very significant,
which is honestly just flat out overturning our democracy.
So now in Georgia, it's about the Georgia election itself.
It's not the Jack Smith federal case, which is more of what I'm talking about.
But I wonder, can she add to the charges?
How does this relate to the charges that she has?
Can that affect the federal case that Jack Smith is working on?
Or at the end it might be a giant nothing burger.
They come in and they go, no, we thought that Trump had actually won.
But the fact that they got immunity tells you that,
hey, maybe there's something there and
that's the place where you would have the most damning information about Trump.
But at this point, we just have evidence that they're going in that direction and
maybe they got something cuz they're giving immunity, but
we don't know what the substance of it is yet.
>> So here's how I feel about this real quick, is that I agree with what Cenk is
saying, that every time we feel like we're getting close to a charge being had and
as he phrased it, the MSNBC crowd goes nuts and it never happens.
I'm pretty much like, I take the Chicago Cubs pre-World Series route.
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm just not there yet.
I don't think I'll be there yet.
Them being granted immunity, I agree, is a very, very big deal.
But we have seen previous folks who have been granted immunity even from the J
6 hearings, where they have given their own testimony to the American public.
And it hasn't done much to not only deter the base, but
also bring any sort of charge against Trump.
Now with Fulton County, there's so many different things, and
Cenk sort of differentiated for you all of those things.
But this goes back to from what I saw through those hearings
when Ruby Freeman was threatened, and
it showed the level of the system that they had in place in order to try and
get this done and they were really, really close to getting it done.
They just had a few hiccups here and there, but
I still remain one of those pessimists per se that are like,
I just don't know if anything is gonna stick to this guy.
It could be the phone calls, it could be the amount of times that he has ruffled
feathers with his fellow Republicans who it seems like badly wanna turn on him, but
just won't.
I'm just not there yet until we actually see something of substance.
It's a step in the right direction, but it's far from over.
>> I agree with you.
It is far from over, most definitely, especially given all of the wrenches that
Trump eventually ends up putting into things, and you never know who comes out
of the woodwork and supports him and has his back.
I do know that this immunity is very interesting,
in part because it's only eight of 16 who have accepted the immunity deal.
So you have to wonder what is going on with the other eight.
In particular, it's my understanding that some of the issues that the other eight
may be running into is the fact that they were engaged in other crimes,
things that have been discovered during this investigation.
And thus they did not accept the immunity or was not extended to them because it
wouldn't necessarily insulate them from those other crimes that may have
been discovered during this investigation process.
I also do know it makes sense that these eight who did accept the deal did so
because they do not wanna be looped into the conspiracy or conspiratorial aspect
that goes with having other members of the electorate group having also committed
crimes, because if there is a conspiracy, even if you jump in at a certain point,
you get charged with it just like everybody else.
You can't just say, I was only in it for this little bit.
But I think it's going to be interesting as things continue to unfold for
Fani Willis down in Georgia.