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Will it be deja Vu all over
again in the 2024 presidential
election, president Joe Biden
expected to announce he will run
for a second term soon. We
expect perhaps this Tuesday,
Donald Trump has already
announced on the Republican
side. Of course, he's casting a
large shadow over other GOP
hopefuls joining us now to talk
about this, you know. Political
commentators Maria Cardona and
Alice Stewart, co host of the
podcast. Hot mix from left to
right, Maria let's start with
president Biden's big
announcement expected on
Wednesday. And by the way, we've
just learned he's planning to
make Julie Chavez Rodriguez, a
senior white house adviser, the
person who's overseeing his
reelection campaign, she's the
granddaughter of labor organizer
Cesar Chavez. So that's a very
big news. But let me just throw
this out there for you, Maria.
What about some of this latest
polling that shows a majority of
Democrats were talking in the
democratic party. I want to see
some fresh faces. They don't
want to see Joe. But caveat.
Always being job. Biden is used
to this. He's used to this, so
let me start with my dear friend
Julie Chavez's victory anyway.
Yeah it is historic the first
time a Latina or Latino Latin X
has this historic title campaign
manager for a sitting
president's reelection and I am
just couldn't be more thrilled,
more proud. This shows the hard
work that she has proven for so
many decades. There is no one
better than her that knows the
intersection of politics and
grassroots outreach campaigning
what it really means to have the
pulse of the nation and the
communities at her fingertips
and being able to advise and
guide and essentially manage the
re election campaign for the
next president of the united
States, so I am so thrilled. And
so proud and such a great great
day and great news for the
campaign on the numbers. Look
you know this and you alluded to
it, um low poll numbers. People
second guessing him, um people
having low expectations exactly
. People underestimating him.
This is where this man eats
dinner. This is not new for him
. He doesn't care about this.
He's going to focus on his
massive historic accomplishments
. In the first four years of the
first term the first two years
as well. That's why Democrats
did so well in the midterm
elections, and this is going to
be his focus moving forward
Alice Donald Trump does not. He
has lots of problems, but this
is not one of them. He's let's
get this. He's well ahead of his
closest potential competitor.
Ron Desantis and polling from
the Wall Street journal and NBC
. We saw this poll coming out
earlier today. He's he's way
ahead of Desantis another a P N
O R S C poll shows that 44% of
Republicans don't want to see
him run again. Um what do you
think? What about these numbers
? I know you have made the case
time and again, there's going to
be a I can anti trump candidate
out there is going to emerge and
all of this, but these numbers
make it pretty. Pretty much
tough sledding candidates
looking right now at the statue
just put about the GOP primary.
It's really clearly two man race
at this point with Donald Trump
in Ron Desantis, and while
Donald Trump right now is in
double digits ahead of Desantis.
The scientist has not gotten
into the race. Yet. He has not
put out his strategy and the
reason we know that this is a
concern for Donald Trump. Donald
Trump continues to go after
Desantis time and time again,
and he only does that if he sees
someone as a threat, and look,
the scientists the Florida
governor is smart. He is pushing
back against Donald Trump and
saying that we need to have more
of a positive, optimistic vision
for the future and pushing back
on Donald Trump and the all of
the things that Donald Trump
stands for in terms of election
lies and conspiracy theorists.
We're going to see a whole new
ballgame once he gets into the
race, but look, there's
tremendous ambivalence across
the board with trump as well as
Biden. We see the poll numbers
show that nearly 70% of
Americans, Republicans and
Democrats do not want Biden to
run similar numbers. They don't
want Donald Trump to run, so
what we're seeing is that most
Americans do not want to see a
sequel of Biden trump matchup in
2024 sequels might be popular in
the box office, but not so much
at the ballot box. So it will be
interesting to see. Obviously
Biden is the top of the ticket
for the Democrats. It's not a
foregone conclusion that Donald
Trump is the GOP. Usually not as
good as the original two is what
a lot of folks hate. Sometimes
it happens. Really she brought
up Ron Desantis. Let's let's
watch still hasn't announced
that he's sure acting like he's
running. He took this thinly
veiled swipe at trump at an
event in Utah yesterday. Let's
listen. Republicans need to
shake the culture of losing that
has developed in recent years.
The time for excuses is over. We
must get it done if we as
Republicans provide a fresh
vision for American revival than
Republicans will win all across
the country. He's heading
overseas. This week. He's facing
issues at home. With donors.
Activists Florida lawmakers in
D. C we've seen Florida
Republicans already announced
that they're going to go for
Donald Trump, which is kind of
not good for Ron Desantis at
this point. Yeah but really, you
know, there's a lot of time for
him to make up ground. That's
right. There's no question Alice
is right. We haven't really seen
what the primary stacks up
better against Joe Biden,
according to the polling. And
again polling right now really
means nothing on either side,
but what you see on the other
side with Ron Desantis should be
concerning because it's a trend
right? He is fizzling in the
polls here. The trend is that
he's not going up. He's going
down. That's not what you want
to see. Right at the point where
you're gonna launch, he just
talked about losing. What about
losing the endorsements of your
own congressional delegation? I
mean, that to me speaks volumes.
And what we've heard from these
people is that they have known
him for years. It's not an issue
of what they don't know him,
which is the argument you can
make about the American people.
These are people that know him
have known him for years and
have said he is not a likable
guy. And so that that is not a
good place to be right before
you launch your election
campaign, different Maria and
her her fellow Democrats would
love nothing more than to just
take Desantis down at this point
and not have it be a viable
contender. Because to your
point, Jim the polls show in the
general election, not the
primaries, the general election
head to head with Biden and
trump Biden is ahead three
points in the general election
head to head with Biden and
Desantis Desantis is ahead three
points, so I'm sure they would
much rather take on Donald Trump
and Desantis. But that's not
that's not my question, Alice,
you know, and you know these
numbers so well, um why doesn't
the rest of the Republican party
see that? Because wouldn't you
think that having Ron Desantis
at the top of the ticket is
going to be much better for all
of these down ballot candidate?
I mean, theoretically speaking
at this point, we don't know
what's going to happen between
now and election day, 21. 34
than Donald Trump. But yet if
you look at the poll numbers
trump is so out in front of
Desantis right now, and as
Maria's saying he's showing some
signs of fizzling. You know how
this works when we're talking
about GOP voters. The Republican
base Donald Trump does have the
support right now at this stage
of the game, but again, they
have not Desantis and these
other top names out there have
not hit the campaign trail with
the full message to show the
contrast and put them head to
head. But you know, we hear from
the evangelical leaders in Iowa
and rational Republicans across
the country. They are ready to
turn the page. They are ready
for character over chaos.
Already for someone that
supports the policies of trump,
but it's not the dumpster fire
that very quickly, Jim, let me
be very clear. I actually don't
. I don't want to see a rematch
of Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
And I think that's where all of
those numbers are. Why because
it was so toxic because of all
of the trash and disgusting
issues and rhetoric that was
coming out of Donald Trump. I
would love for it to be Desantis
and Joe Biden because I believe
that absolutely Joe Biden will
win against Desantis, who wants
to go for book banning banning
rights for women banding rights
for lgbtq community being
authoritarian and Florida. His
own people don't like him. I
don't think he the American
people will like him, so bring
it on. If it is Desantis. I hope
that it is. For the sake of the
country. And Joe Biden will beat
him pants down. Alright, thanks