So, he says: what is it to be whole?
And he says, I don't know what it means to be whole.
So to find out what it means,
first you must say,
anything that is fragmented, broken up, is not whole.
So, are you fragmented?
Of course. Aren't you?
So you are not whole. So can you be not fragmented,
so that when you say something you really mean it,
it corresponds to what you think, what you feel,
and it is true.
Can you do that?
And whole also means to have a very healthy body.
Health, good health.
And to have good health,
smoking, drinking, all that cannot take place.
And whole also means to be sane,
rational, clear,
not confused, not neurotic.
If you eliminate all that, then you are whole.
And the word 'whole' means also, holy, sacred.
Then you become sacred. You understand?
Then you are really an extraordinary human being.
That is what we are trying to do at Brockwood,
and you are as much responsible as the rest of us.
Right?
We are going to talk
before I leave for India which will be on October 15th
– unfortunately I have to go –
we are going to talk over together
fear, pleasure, love, compassion,
how to be free completely of sorrow, fear,
and understand what it means to have pleasure, enjoyment, all that,
so that you become an extraordinarily sane human being.
Right?
We had better stop now, it is one o'clock.
Come on, it is twelve o'clock.
You asked me to come down here at eleven, didn't you?
You have a whole hour before lunch?
What do we do?
Q: What about negative things, negative thought?
When you have some negative thought...
K: I don't know about negative thoughts.
All thoughts are negative.
Q: When you have a very mean thought about something,
K: Yes, a mean thought.
Q: And then when you actually do it, you don't do it.
See what I mean? K: I understand.
K: You have a mean thought but you don't act meanly.
Now, why do you have a mean thought?
Because you dislike somebody, you hate somebody?
Because somebody has hurt you?
Somebody has said you are a fool?
So you have mean thoughts because they have either hurt you,
physically or inwardly,
psychologically.
So in reaction you have a mean thought.
You call me a fool.
I don't like to be called a fool,
so I have mean thoughts about you.
Q: So when I come and act towards you, I don't act mean.
K: No, I pretend to be very nice.
but I don't want to live that way,
pretending, a life which is pretension.
That is hypocrisy, I don't want to live that way.
So, I must find out
whether it is possible not to have mean thoughts.
Right?
Q: But isn't it better not to act the true way,
isn't it better than hating each other...
When I think something mean and then I act nice towards you.
But if I acted meanly
then we would just go on hating each other.
K: Therefore let's find out
whether it is possible to be free of mean thoughts.