The FBI carried out a raid on Donald Trump's resident at South Florida golf course resort this
week. And everyone on both sides of the political aisle have lost their minds about this event.
Here, here are the arguments, you know, they, they've weaponized the DOJ,
probably some truth to that. That it's going to cause such a surge in GOP interest for the
midterms that anything the Democrats gain with the abortion issue is now lost because you have
so many Republicans, even moderate Republicans, very angry, willing to show up at the polls.
So, so take it from there. I see a boatload of issues here, but we can talk about this a long
time. Why, why don't you take it from there. I, I, I don't disagree that there are
obviously some political ramifications the Democrats are gonna suffer from here,
but I'm, I'm personally glad that this happened. Mm-hmm.
And, and I do think I, I wanna throw this out there is, I don't think, you know,
everybody says this is, oh, it's the National Archives, the documents that he had had there.
I don't think that that is exactly what we're looking at.
Okay. I think it's more likely this
has something to do, because again, we don't even have confirmation about what it's really about.
Right. I think this is more
about the fake elector scheme, where they've already gotten John Eastman's cell phones.
They've gotten Rudy Giuliani's materials. Well, Okay. Talk that out a little bit,
because a lot of the viewers may not know, talk about that issue.
So, so this is of course, you know, Trump's attorneys and as far as we know, Trump himself
were attempting to get by the states, send us alternate electors so Mike Pence can verify them.
Mm-hmm. That is the one thing we
know the DOJ has been investigating. They've been very aggressive with it in the last couple weeks.
Mm-hmm. So for this to
suddenly happen now versus the National Archive story, which came out way earlier this year.
Right. The timing seems
to lend more to the fake elector scheme to me. That's, that's a good point. I think you may be
onto something there. The way I see this is the, the downside to it. We've talked about the Church
hearings a lot. Yeah.
Okay. This is being shaped up like the same kind of argument that was done in the Church hearings.
If you think about it, the Church hearings really started with the idea that maybe the IRS, well,
it started, it started with a Phoenix program that a guy named Colby was running in Vietnam where he
was assassinating people unnecessarily. And it was an ugly, ugly story. But then the other, the
sub part of it began that the IRS they had added all these agents and they were targeting political
opponents. It was part of the DOJ process. The DOJ themselves was, they were targeting
political opponents. They were doing things like, you know, following journalists around,
they were doing things like eavesdropping, bugging houses, bugging cars, and the, so it, it was,
it was a really ugly time in history. And I, I think about this, this is being turned into that
a little bit. This is being turned into, this is gonna be another example of weaponizing, you hear
that term a lot, weaponizing the Department of Justice. You know, I don't know, but I'll tell
you something, if it does go forward, what we're gonna see is when the, when the Republicans are
gonna take, they're gonna take over at some point. And when they do the people that outta
be really careful are people like Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden. They're,
and you know, the people that were behind this raid themselves, it's gonna be another, I think
it's gonna be a parallel to the Church hearings. Well, and we do have some interesting things here
too, because Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, this guy Trump put up there.
Yeah. So this is a Trump guy.
Yeah. So far right now,
we're still trying to learn a little bit more about who the judge was. I think right now it's.
Rein, Reinhardt. Was it Reinhardt?
Yeah. A guy named Reinhardt. Okay, so.
He's a magistrate. Okay. So he's not a political appointee.
No. At least. Okay.
Well, there's, they're already starting to attack him. You know, they're tying him up
to the fact that, of the, his wrongdoing when he represented the people that were involved with
Epstein that were raping kids. Yeah. I did see that. Yeah.
So he, he represented these people, even though he had inside information from a prosecutorial
standpoint, he comes out and he starts saying, I'm gonna represent these people that are caught up in
the Epstein trafficking issues. He, he represented some people that are accused of trafficking. And
so, so they look at it, they look at him and they say, you know, that's where they're gonna
start their fight. First of all, the magistrate shouldn't have even issued the subpoena. It, you
know, it's impossible for us to know. We haven't seen the subpoena. We haven't seen the search
warrant. We know they've got into his, his safe. Safe, yeah.
And it was empty, you know, and we do know this. We do know that, you know,
the people who are constitutional lawyers, really good ones, say that they really got ahead of
themselves there. That this is the last possible act the Department of Justice should have taken
before they negotiated for these documents. But if we do not know obviously which
investigation this is about, this might be the last act. I mean.
Could be. This might be the final,
you know, nail in whatever coffin it is they think they have. If it is the fake elector scheme,
again, they've already gotten all of his associates, you know, all of the enablers, the
lawyers, their cell phones, if they're looking for the final missing piece of the puzzle. And another
interesting thing that happened too, though, at the same time, right before this happens,
we get the major bombshell from Maggie Haberman. Right.
Who sends out the photos like this man flushes documents down the toilet.
Well, A. A, there's always, there, there's always ,already suspicion that that was a setup
picture. You, you've seen that? Yeah, yeah. I mean.
There's always already suspicion it doesn't have anything to do with government. It's his private.
But so, so the point is there's no turning back here. Okay. This is never been done to a pres,
a past president in the history of the country, ever. And so the point being it's like Axelrod
said, they better be sure that this is a tight case. That's an open and shut case.
Because if it's not, we've got a DOJ that's gonna be on the ropes. We've got a FBI that's gonna be
on the ropes for might a long time. I think that's gonna happen anyway. I think you're gonna see the,
I think you're gonna see the Republican base in power and they're gonna turn out in droves, man.
Well, and Republicans have already told us if we take back the House, guess what? We're,
we're doing the Hunter Biden investigation. Yeah.
Which the DOJs already investigating Hunter Biden right now.
Yeah. So that is happening.
Supposedly, yeah. But they've also said, we're gonna
investigate Fauci. We're gonna investigate, Pelosi. We're gonna investigate everything.
Merrick Garland. So they can just add another one to the list now.
Yeah. Which I think is gonna be a disaster for 'em. I mean, Republicans gonna do the same
thing that Democrats did and spend too much time investigating and not time enough legislating.
Well that's. And, and they're gonna fall into
that. It's, it's, it's like a trap for 'em. Well, and, and I will say, you know,
bringing up the fact that this hasn't happened to a past president before, it should have happened.
Yeah. To George W. Bush.
Absolutely. With the whole torture and all of that.
Absolutely. You know, we should have
seen it back then and set that precedent. But they didn't because they didn't want
that precedent. That, that's what happened there, Farron.
Well, Eric Holder was a coward, as well. Yeah. Eric Holder, Eric Holder was a coward.
Well, the, I, I think it's early to say we've turned into a banana Republic,
but this is something that you see in South America. One pow, one, one political powers in,
they're in power, that they're then out of power and the investigations and prosecutions
start. That is almost, that, that is the, the way that a third world country operates. So I, I think
it's too early to say that right now, although you have people saying banana Republic, third world
countries. I don't know. I think it's too early. Yeah, we don't know enough facts at this point.
Yeah. And I, I think once we know what exactly this was related to, again, my money at the moment
is on the fake elector scheme. Yeah, I think.
I just, I just think that makes more sense. You may be right. Let's hope it's something
that they can actually, because if you're gonna threaten the king, you better kill the king.
If they, if they fumble this. Yeah.
That, that is not gonna look. I mean, there's nothing that would look worse
than that at this point. That's true.