>> I HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO
DECLARE A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
THE LAWYERS HAVE SO ADVISED ME.
I'M NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT YET
BUT IF I HAVE TO I WILL.
I HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO
DECLARE A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
I HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.
I MAY DO IT.
IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT,
PROBABLY I WILL DO IT.
I WOULD ALMOST SAY DEFINITELY.
CHARLES: PRESIDENT TRUMP
REITERATING THAT HE MAY DECLARE
A NATIONAL EMERGENCY IF CONGRESS
DOES NOT MEET HIS DEMAND FOR
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD HIS
WALL ALONG THE BORDER.
AS THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN NOW
ENTERED DAY 20.
HE IS BORDER CITY OF McALLEN,
TEXAS, AT THIS VERY HOUR.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ABOUT TO START
A ROUNDTABLE WITH IMMIGRATION
AND BORDER SECURITY OFFICIALS
THERE.
WE'LL BE MONITORING THIS EVENT
FOR YOU.
WE'LL BRING YOU UP TO DATE ALL
THE HIGHLIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE
HOUR BUT FIRST I WANT TO BRING
IN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN SEAN
DUFFY.
CONGRESSMAN DUFFY, THE BLUSTER,
VITRIOLIC NATURE, THE THAT SEEMS
TO GET WORSE AS IT DEEPENS.
MAKE PEOPLE WONDER IF THERE OR
EVER CAN BE A RESOLUTION TO IT?
>> THERE CAN BE A RESOLUTION BUT
TO RESOLVE ISSUES, CHARLES YOU
NEED TWO SIDE WILLING TO SIT
DOWN AND NEGOTIATE.
DONALD TRUMP SAYS I'M AT
5.7 BILLION.
I WANT TO SECURE THE BORDER
NANCY PELOSI SAID SHE WON'T GIVE
HIM A DOLLAR AND NOT BUDGE.
PRETTY HARD TO NEGOTIATE THE
POSITION.
PRESIDENT GOING TO THE BORDER IS
DOING WHAT BORDER AGENTS ARE
ASKING FORAL HOWING THEM TO DO
THEIR JOB, ALLOWING THEM.
THE LEFT-LEANING MEDIA PARTNER
WITH DEMOCRATS MESSAGE
DONALD TRUMP SHOULD OPEN THE
BORDER, NOT SECURE THE
GOVERNMENT, OPEN THE GOVERNMENT,
NOT SECURE THE BORDER.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
MIDDLE AMERICA IS WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
HE IS ONE-MANNED WITH MESSAGING.
IT IS OVAL OFFICE ADDRESS, AT
BORDER, DOING ADDRESS.
BRINGING ISSUE TO AMERICAN
PEOPLE HOW IMPORTANT THE FIGHT
IS.
CHARLES: RIGHT.
>> THE MIGRANTS, HOW
CATASTROPHIC IT IS FOR THE
JOURNEY.
THE ISSUES WE HAVE WHETHER
DRUGS, GANGS, CRIMINALS, OR EVEN
TERRORISTS THAT COME INTO THE
COUNTRY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN
BORDER.
SO IMPORTANT TO MESSAGE IT.
CHARLES: 31 ACTIVE NATIONAL
EMERGENCIES GOING BACK TO THE
CARTER ADMINISTRATION.
BLOCKING SUDANESE GOVERNMENT
PROPERTY.
PROHIBITING TRANSACTIONS WITH
SUDAN.
BLOCKING PROPERTY, PERSONS
UNDERMINING DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
IN I AM IS BOB WAY.
IF THOSE ARE -- ZIMBABWE, THOSE
ARE NATIONAL EMERGENCIES GO BACK
TO 1993 AND 2007, COULD JUSTIFY
OR QUALIFY AS ONE?
>> WHEN WHAT WHAT IF WE HAVE
PRESIDENT ELIZABETH WARREN.
GLOBAL WARNING IS NATIONAL
EMERGENCY I WILL IMPOSE
EMERGENCY ACTIONS ON THE
COUNTRY.
CHARLES: IS THAT WHY PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS RELUCTANT TO DO THAT?
>> I THINK SO.
SOME MUCH US WANT THE WALL TO BE
BUILT.
WE WANT NEGOTIATIONS GOING BUT I
DON'T THINK WE WANT TO TAKE THAT
STEP.
MAYBE THE PRESIDENT IS
THREATENING TO USE IT TO BRING
DEMOCRATS TO THE TABLE.
I GET CONCERNED WHAT A FUTURE
PRESIDENT DOING.
IF ONLY PRESIDENT DOING WALL
THROUGH NATIONAL SECURITY CLAIM
THAT IS ONE THING.
WHAT IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT, A
DEMOCRAT WILL DO WITH THAT
AUTHORITY?
CHARLES: THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN
SAID.
16 YEARS OF BLOCKING CERTAIN
PEOPLE FROM ZIMBABWE FROM BUYING
PROPERTY.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT A POTENTIAL
GRAND BARGAIN.
I'VE BEEN BRINGING THIS UP FROM
THE VERY BEGINNING AS PERHAPS
THIS BEING SUCH A CONTENTIOUS
ISSUE, WHY NOT PUT IT ALL ON THE
TABLE?
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE FOLKS IN
SENATE, EVEN MITCH McCONNELL
PERHAPS EXPLORING THAT.
HARD-LINERS IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY LOOK AT DACA AS AMNESTY,
BUT ALL OF THESE ISSUES DON'T GO
AWAY.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WILL CONTINUE
TO GET WORSE AND, WHY NOT JUST
TRY TO FIND A WAY, MAYBE TO
RESOLVE IT ALL AT ONCE?
>> I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD
POINT.
THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET,
CHARLES, BOTH SIDES ARE NOT THAT
FAR APART, WITH THOSE THAT HAVE
COME HERE UNLAWFULLY, WORKING
HERE, NOT TAPPING INTO ENTITLE
SYSTEM, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM?
GIVE THEM LEGAL STATUS OR
CITIZENSHIP OR INTERNAL
ENFORCEMENT WITH E-VERIFY
SYSTEM?
HOW WE EXPAND VISA SYSTEM NYING
HERE FOR A JOB INSTEAD OF MAKING
A DANGEROUS JOURNEY?
THE IMPORTANT PART IS TO GET
BORDER SECURITY.
WE LEARNED IN 1986 WITH
RONALD REAGAN HE GAVE AMNESTY
TODAY WITH PROMISE FOR BORDER
SECURITY TOMORROW.
BORDER SECURITY NEVER CAME.
CHARLES: IT NEVER CAME.
>> IF YOU SECURE THE BORDER,
THOSE HERE NOT DACA KIDS ALL
THAT IS ON THE TABLE.
WE'RE NOT THAT FAR APART.
WE CAN RESOLVE THIS YOU NEED A
NEGOTIATING PARTNER.
WHEN NANCY PELOSI SAYS I'M NOT
GOING TO NEGOTIATE.
NOT BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH
WALLS OR WALLS WORK BECAUSE I
HATE THE PRESIDENT.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE HIM A
PERCEIVED WIN.
I WILL STICK WITH MY POSITION,
GIVE YOU NOTHING.
THAT IS REALLY HARD PLACE TO
NEGOTIATE FROM.
AND, CHARLES, THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WANT FAIRNESS.
AND THEY WANT, THEY ASSESS BOTH
SIDES, TRUMP IS WILLING TO
NEGOTIATE BUT NANCY'S NOT?
I THINK THAT DOESN'T BODE WELL
FOR HER.
CHARLES: FEELS LIKE THE PUBLIC
OPINION PENDULUM IS SWINGING
TOWARD PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO YOUR
POINT, NANCY PELOSI LIKES TO PUT