today we get an incredibly important
reminder that the phrase i was in fear
for my life if it doesn't have objective
reasonable evidence is not a magic
formula
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hi friends welcome to today's lesson
here at active self protection i'm your
host john korea today's video comes to
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purchase gonna see this lady walk into
the store apparently to get a receipt
for her gasoline purchase but the clerk
tells her she has to leave because
company policy is that she has to have a
mask on in order to come in the store
this is in washington they have had some
fairly draconian policies and been among
the last to remove those so she argues
with him that all she needs is her
receipt for her gas and he says she
can't come in he can't serve her in any
way unless she has a mask on which she
refused to do according to the news
story that i have linked in the
description so they're going to sit and
argue about it a little bit and this
clerk is going to tell her nope i'm not
helping you i'm not giving you anything
i'm not doing anything for you while she
sits there on her phone i think and
argues that the thing won't give her a
receipt outside so they're going to
continue to sit and argue about it a
little bit and the clerk is about to get
kind of tired of it now i've sped this
beginning part up for the sake of time
but now what he's going to do she's
going to tell her as she's been
trespassed several times she's going to
grab her on the left shoulder of her
coat and start to force her out the door
and use physical force to force her out
the door as soon as she gets out the
door she's going to turn around take a
couple of swings at the guy drop her
phone there then pick her phone up and
as he goes back inside she's going to
draw a pistol and show him a thing or
two that she has a gun now she's gonna
go walk back to the car here and she's
gonna be the one that calls the cops and
says that this guy threatened her life
and that's why she showed him the gun
however she has been charged with felony
menacing in this case we get to think
about lessons this is really stupid and
we're going to talk about the legalities
of all this from both sides as well as
being good sane sober moral and prudent
and if you want more on being a good
saint sober moral prudent person please
i've made an entire playlist of
explaining each phrase over on active
cell protection extra it's linked below
go watch it i think the biggest and
first lesson out of this one is to be
kind to each other please hear me now
mostly the mask mandates are coming down
in most places that's not you know
really a thing anymore but it's really a
bigger problem in america of rudeness
towards one another listen just do your
best to be kind when you are you know
this woman who's walking in look i need
a receipt or whatever listen ma'am i
can't give you one unless you have a
mask and i still think for places like
that even if you don't like wearing
masks just grab one so then that way you
can you know get what you need and get
out of there of course from the clerk's
perspective this whole thing could have
been avoided if he just printed up a
receipt here you go have a nice stay and
and gone on alternately as well if you
want to kick her out like he has the
right to trespass her from the property
that's no problem but probably smarter
if she won't go to just call police and
just say hey i need an officer here to
trespass this woman off my property so
now he's going to get tired of her going
and now he's going to put his hands on
her let's talk about this for a minute
he actually does have the right to use
reasonable physical force to remove
someone from property that he controls
now of course you want to use the
minimum force necessary but having told
her multiple times to leave he does have
the right to use reasonable ordinary
force to eject her from the property
because he is in control of the property
now that's not saying that it's the good
same sober moral and or prudent thing to
do though but he does have a legal right
to do so so i wouldn't recommend that i
would recommend just call the cops let
the cops deal with it and outsource your
violence but he is within his rights to
do so so she's going to get all kinds of
mad because she's like oh no he's you
know he's forcing me he's going to hurt
me or whatever she's the one who
precipitated that though and he has the
right to remove her
now again that said this is
it's justifiable but is it smart because
again what if you know she has a gun on
her or if she has a partner who sees you
pushing her out the door and decides nah
you're not going to rough up my lady or
something like that so it puts you in a
very awkward spot so i just wouldn't
recommend it i would recommend instead
that you use another source to do that
and just be patient all right ma'am i'm
just going to call the police and then
we're going to have you removed from the
property and stay cool in those kinds of
instances or just print her stinking
receipt now she comes back with punches
and and you know could i see a
reasonable person saying no i didn't
know he had the right to to use physical
force so when he started using physical
force i'm the one you know i'm the
defender here i'm the one who used
physical force in defense because he
started the physical altercation
except for she had been trespassed off
the property and so she was the offender
in this particular case and you don't
have the right to use you know physical
force to defend yourself if you are the
instigator of the problem which she is
so that was assault right there and now
he is going to then you know get her off
of him and go back in his store and now
i think assault moves up to aggravated
assault here now you got to talk for
just a minute about the the legalities
of what we would call a defensive
display of a firearm and i don't think
what we see here is in any sense a
defensive display now she's the one who
called the police first and so she
thinks aha i'm in the right here i am
the person who is you know offended and
he made me in fear for my life so i'm
going to show him that i have a firearm
in many jurisdictions
just getting the firearm out without
there being an immediate risk of death
or great bodily harm is aggravated
assault and is going to get you thrown
in prison as a felony for a number of
years now there are some states that
have very strong defensive display
statutes
and even some that have a defensive
display statute against merely ordinary
physical force in arizona where i live
for instance you can display a firearm
in a defensive manner though we don't
know exactly what they mean by that in a
you know if the threat against you is
ordinary physical force but you can't
use it and so it's kind of a bluff at
any rate this is really stupid because
was there any reason to show him you had
a gun no because you know he's not an
immediate deadly threat and and showing
him that number one gives up your
element of surprise number two sets you
at risk for significant legal liability
which this woman is facing here now did
she again having gotten it wrong in the
beginning then think oh this is a bigger
stronger man so i'm gonna get my firearm
out in case i have to defend myself
because i think he's attacking me
okay fine but because she's the initial
aggressor because she's trespassed off
the property and unwilling to go her
very presence is is the problem here and
so yes she is the offender and i think
what she did is very wrong and we as as
good saints sober moral prudent people
need to do better than this as firearms
owners and carriers we need to be good
sane sober moral and prudent people and
this woman was a concealed carry permit
holder she's going to lose her concealed
carry permit for sure now it is
interesting to me that they're only
charging her with felony menacing
they're not charging her with any of the
aggravated assault or brandishing of
firearm charges or any of that so so it
seems to me that maybe the prosecutor
realizes those might be a hard sell
because of how she's going to articulate
what she reasonably believed that she
was in fear of but i want us all to
learn the lessons here just because you
carry a firearm doesn't mean you can be
a bully doesn't mean you can tell people
what to do and if they want you off
their property the answer is to leave
not do stupid stuff like this and face
charges
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