YOU WERE GREAT TOGETHER. >> YOU’RE INVITED BACK.
KATY TUR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANKS.
>> THANKS. >>> WELCOME TO "THE BEAT"
TONIGHT.
TONIGHT. WE ARE TRACKING SEVERAL MAJOR
INVOLVEMENTS RIGHT NOW.
AS WE BEGIN THE BROADCAST ON
THIS MONDAY EVENING, I WANT TO
TELL YOU A FEW BOMBS THAT HAVE
DROPPED SINCE WE WERE LAST ON
THE AIR JUST OF COURSE ON FRIDAY
NIGHT.
NIGHT. FIRST, "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
BOMBSHELL THAT TRUMP LAWYER RUDY
GIULIANI IS UNDER CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. SECOND, PRESIDENT TRUMP TAKING
IN THAT POTENTIALLY GRAVE
DEVELOPMENT AND DOUBLING DOWN BY
EMBRACING GIULIANI AT A LUNCH
MEETING THIS WEEKEND.
THIRD, THE ACTING DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY IS
NOW OUT.
NOW OUT. ANOTHER CASUALTY OF TRUMP’S
TEMPORARY APPROACH TO STAFFING.
FOURTH, AND THIS ONE ARRIVES
TODAY ON CAPITOL HILL A HUGE
CRACK IN DONALD TRUMP’S ATTEMPT
TO STONEWALL THIS IMPEACHMENT
PROBE.
PROBE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCENE TODAY.
FIONA HILL, THE FIRST WHITE
HOUSE AIDE TO ACTUALLY TESTIFY
IN THIS IMPEACHMENT PROBE, THERE
SHE WAS ARRIVING, AND SHE IS NOT
JUST ANY AIDE, OF COURSE.
SHE HAS BEEN AT THE CENTER OF
DONALD TRUMP’S TWIN FOREIGN
POLICY SCANDALS FROM RUSSIA TO
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. SHE LEFT HER POST IN JULY RIGHT
BEFORE TRUMP’S INFAMOUS UKRAINE
PHONE CALL AND TODAY TESTIFIED
BEFORE LAWMAKERS FOR HOURS IN
THE SETTING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
BEFORE WE KNOW EVERYTHING SHE
SAID, WE DO KNOW THAT SHE JOINS
THIS CHORUS OF PUBLIC SERVANTS
WHO ARE NOW VERY CLEARLY
REJECTING DONALD TRUMP’S DEMAND
THAT EVERYONE DEFY CONGRESS.
FACED WITH A SUBPOENA FROM THE
DEMOCRATIC INVESTIGATORS, SHE
HAS COMPLIED AND REPORTEDLY
DETAILED HOW GIULIANI, AGAIN,
NOW UNDER CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION, WAS PART OF A
PLOT TO RUN, A QUOTE, SHADOW
DIPLOMACY, WHICH AMONG OTHER
THINGS WAS TRYING TO KNEECAP
TRUMP’S RIVALS.
TRUMP’S RIVALS. THESE ARE PART OF THE ELEMENTS
OF THE ALLEGED ABUSE OF POWER AT
THE HEART OF THIS IMPEACHMENT
PROBE.
PROBE. SO THAT’S NEW TESTIMONY ON THAT.
AND THAT’S ONE INSIDER SPEAKING
TODAY.
TODAY. NOW THEN BY THIS THURSDAY,
CONGRESS WILL HEAR FROM ANOTHER
INSIDER SPEAKING OUT.
THIS ONE IS AT THE CENTER OF THE
UKRAINE PLOT, THE EU AMBASSADOR
WHO SENT THE FAMOUS TEXT MESSAGE
WITH DONALD TRUMP’S EMERGING
LINE OF DEFENSE, THAT WHATEVER
THEY WERE ASKING FOR AND HOWEVER
UNSAVORY IT LOOKED AND HOWEVER
PANICKED THE TEXT MESSAGES ABOUT
IT, THERE WAS NO, QUOTE, QUID
PRO QUO IN THE BIDEN PLOT.
NOW HE’S TALKING AND THE REPORTS
ARE HE’LL EXPLAIN THAT THE TEXTS
THAT HE WROTE THERE WAS A
RESPONSE TO TRUMP’S DIRECTIVE IN
A PHONE CALL.
AND THAT WHILE HE DUTIFULLY
TYPED IT OUT, HE IS NOT
APPARENTLY GOING TO CLAIM HE
KNEW IT TO EVEN BE TRUE.
NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHETHER THE
PRESIDENT WAS TELLING THE TRUTH,
ACCORDING TO THOSE REPORTS.
WELL, THAT’S A BIG DEAL.
SO HERE’S WHY THIS ALL MATTERS
AND WHY THIS WEEK MAY PROVE SO
CRITICAL.
CRITICAL. WE’RE NOT EVEN HEARING FROM THE
WHISTLE-BLOWERS RIGHT NOW.
WE’RE NOT HEARING FROM TRUMP
CRITICS.
CRITICS. THIS TESTIMONY, THIS STUFF THAT
SOUNDS INCRIMINATING, THAT
CONGRESS IS GATHERING IN THE
IMPEACHMENT PROBE, THIS IS FROM
DIPLOMATS AND PEOPLE WHOORKED
FOR DONALD TRUMP.
THEY’RE LAYING DOWN THE EVIDENCE
OF THIS UKRAINE PLOT.
IF THERE WAS A BETTER GLOSS ON
THE ACTIONS OR A MORE BENIGN
INTERPRETATION, WELL, THESE
WOULD BE THE PEOPLE TO OFFER IT.
AND APPARENTLY, THEY’RE JUST NOT
DOING THAT.
DOING THAT. WHICH AGAIN SHOWS THE LOGIC OF
WHY DONALD TRUMP’S REQUEST WAS
NOT FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COME OUT
AND TALK OR TELL THE TRUTH.
IT’S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT,
AS ALL THIS STUFF FLIES AT US.
THE REQUEST AND THEN THE ORDER
AND THEN THE STONEWALLING WAS
ALL AN EFFORT TO MUZZLE THESE
PEOPLE SO THIS PROBE WOULDN’T
GET THE FACTS FROM THEM.
THE AMBASSADOR I MENTIONED, HE
IS ALSO REPORTEDLY PLANNING TO
TESTIFY HE WORKED WITH GIULIANI
COULD GET THE UKRAINIANS TO
PUBLICLY COMMIT TO THIS SAME
UKRAINE PLOT, INCLUDING THE IDEA
THAT THEY WOULD RELEASE A
SPECIAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE VERY
BIDEN-LINKED COMPANY THAT TRUMP
WANTED INVESTIGATED BY NAME, AND
THAT WAS BASICALLY IN EXCHANGE
FOR A PROMISED WHITE HOUSE
VISIT.
VISIT. ONE SOURCE SAYING, QUOTE, IT WAS
A QUID PRO QUO, BUT NOT A
CORRUPT ONE.
CORRUPT ONE. IN BRIBERY, JUST SO WE’RE ALL
CLEAR, THE QUID PRO QUO ITSELF
WHEN SOUGHT BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL
IS ILLEGAL.
IS ILLEGAL. SO IT’S A PRETTY THIN DEFENSE TO
SAY THE ILLEGAL THING WASN’T
CORRUPT.
CORRUPT. IT’S ALMOST NONSENSICAL.
FOR HIS PART, THE PRESIDENT, WHO
HAS BEEN TRYING TO STOP
WITNESSES AND PREVENT THE
IMPEACHMENT HAS BEEN AGAIN
CLAIMING HE ALSO SOMEHOW
ACTUALLY ENJOYS THE PROCESS.
INDEED, HE FINDS IT, QUOTE,
ENERGIZING.
ENERGIZING. >> YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID?
EVERY ONE OF THEM, PLUS MANY
OTHERS, THERE’S NO OTHER MAN
THAT WE’VE EVER MET THAT COULD
HAVE TAKEN IT.
IT’S TRUE.
IT’S TRUE. MAYBE I’M A LITTLE DIFFERENT UP
HERE.
HERE. I DON’T KNOW.
BUT I ENJOY IT.
TO ME IT’S I’M ENERGIZED.
>> HE IS ENERGIZED.
WE OFTEN TRY TO PUT THINGS IN
SOME CONTEXT.
SOME CONTEXT. AND TO BE FAIR, AS A MATTER OF
HISTORY, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT
BREAK ANYTHING GROUND HERE WITH
A KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE
REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY DEFENSE.
PRESIDENT JOHNSON FAMOUSLY AND
PUBLICLY CLAIMED HE DIDN’T CARE
IF HE WAS IMPEACHED AS WELL.
HISTORIANS ULTIMATELY FOUND AND
DOCUMENTED THAT HE WAS PRIVATELY
LIVED ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT
PROBE AND IT CHALLENGED HIS
LEGITIMACY WHILE HE DISCLAIMED
ANY CARES IN PUBLIC.
I WANT TO TURN TO FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTORS JOHN FLANNERY AND
POLITICS EDITOR FOR THE ROOT
JASON JOHNSON.
JASON JOHNSON. BERIT, LET ME START WITH YOU
HERE IN NEW YORK, RIGHT NEAR
DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN, WHERE RUDY
GIULIANI IS UNDER INVESTIGATION
FROM THE OFFICE HE USED TO LEAD,
AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A SIDE
PRESSURE ON TOP OF WHAT’S COMING
OUT OF CONGRESS TODAY.
WHAT DOES THAT DO?
AND WHERE DOES THIS ALL LEAD AS
A PROBE?
A PROBE? >> YEAH, THE FACT THAT THERE IS
BOTH A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AT
THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE HAVING
THESE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS IS
SIGNIFICANT.
SIGNIFICANT. FOR A FEW KEY REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO COME
WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POWER.
WHILE THE ADMINISTRATION AND
PEOPLE IN IT MAY BE ABLE TO
DISREGARD CONGRESSIONAL
DISREGARD CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS, IT’S A LOT HARDER TO
DO THAT WHEN THERE IS THE THREAT
OF CONTEMPT OF COURT THAT’S AT
ISSUE.
ISSUE. >> ALSO KNOWN AS JAIL?
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. WHEN YOU’RE FACING THE BACK END
OF A JAIL CELL, IT’S A LOT
HARDER TO SAY I’M NOT GOING TO
SHOW UP.
SHOW UP. SO I THINK WE MAY SEE A LOT MORE
WILLING COOPERATION, AT LEAST
WITH THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION,
ALTHOUGH IT IS ENCOURAGING THAT
WE HAVE SEEN WITNESSES COMING
FORWARD TO CONGRESS AND BEING
WILLING TO COME IN VOLUNTARILY.
>> FLANNERY, ALL OF THIS COMES
BACK TO WHAT THE CONGRESS
DECIDES THEY THINK THE EVIDENCE
SHOWS THAT DONALD TRUMP DID.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> DOES IT MEET A HIGH CRIME?
DOES IT MEET BRIBERY?
DOES IT HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER
METE SOMETHING THAT THEY’RE
REQUIRED IF THEY TAKE THIS
SERIOUSLY TO ASSESS IN THE
CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION. WHICH IS ALL TOTALLY DIFFERENT
WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP, WHETHER YOU THINK HE IS
THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER OR ANY
OTHER SUCH CRITICISM.
I WANT TO TURN TO SOMEONE WHO
HAS UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AS A
SPECIAL TYPE OF PROSECUTOR IN.
THIS YOU KNOW WHO DOESN’T THINK
THERE IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE
HERE IS KEN STARR, JOHN.
>> THAT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME.
MORE PARTISAN THAN LEGAL.
>> HERE YOU GO.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> I DON’T THINK THAT THERE IS
ANYTHING CLOSE TO AN IMPEACHABLE
OFFENSE HERE BY TRADITIONAL
STANDARDS, INCLUDING DURING THE
CLINTON YEARS WHEN THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES CLEARLY
BILL CLINTON CLEARLY COMMITTED
CRIMES, FEDERAL CRIMES.
FIRST OF ALL, IT’S DOOMED TO
FAIL.
FAIL. >> IN THE SENATE, IT’S DOOMED TO
FAIL?
FAIL? >> IT’S DOOMED TO FAIL IN THE
SENATE, YES.
SENATE, YES. >> JOHN?
>> JOHN? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS
ARE IN DENIAL ABOUT ANYTHING
THAT’S TRUE AND OBVIOUS.
I MEAN, IF A SEX ACT AND A LIE
ABOUT IT IS AN IMPEACHABLE
OFFENSE, WHAT IS NOT AN
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE? AND THE TRUTH IS THE CONVERSE,
WHICH IS THAT WAS NOT AN
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. IT WASN’T A HIGH CRIME OR
MISDEMEANOR.
MISDEMEANOR. IT WANT GOOD.
IT WAS BAD.
THERE ARE WAYS TO HANDLE IT.
BUT THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE
OFFENSE.
OFFENSE. IN VIOLATION OF THE CAMPAIGN
FINANCE ACT, THE EMOLUMENTS ACT,
A BRIBE, AN EXTORTION, THERE IS
AN ABUSE OF POWER HERE.
SONDLAND COMES FORWARD AND SAID
OH, I TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT.
HE SAID THERE WAS NO QUID PRO
QUO.
QUO. SONDLAND HIMSELF WAS WORKING ON
THIS PROJECT FOREVER.
WE HAVE HIM ON TEXT MESSAGES.
I CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE HE COSMING
TO TESTIFY WITH THAT BACKGROUND
OF EVIDENCE.
OF EVIDENCE. >> IF THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO,
DOES IT MAKE IT WORSE, BETTER,
OR NOT MATTER IF THE PUBLIC
OFFICIALS OF THE PRESIDENT’S
DIRECTION WERE CLAIMING THE
OPPOSITE?
OPPOSITE? >> WELL, PEOPLE WHEN CORNERED
CLAIM INNOCENT AND THAT THEY
DIDN’T DO IT.
WE HAVE HIS ACTUAL WORDS DURING
THE EVENT IN TEXT MESSAGES AND
OTHER PEOPLE HE’S SPOKEN TO,
INCLUDING BOLTON BY THE WAY WHEN
IN EARLY JULY HE PROPOSED THAT
THIS WAS SOMETHING THEY SHOULD
DO.
DO. AND BOLTON AFTER THE MEETING
WENT CRAZY.
WENT CRAZY. THAT’S BEFORE THE JULY 18th OF
THE HOLDBACK OF THE FUNDS TO
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. I CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE HE IS
COMING TO TESTIFY.
IF I WAS HIS CRIMINAL DEFENSE
LAWYER, I SUGGEST HE TAKE A
POWDER UNDER THE FIFTH.
BUT POLITICIANS DON’T DO THAT.
AND THE ARROGANCE OF THESE GUYS
IS ASTONISHING, BECAUSE I THINK
THEY BELIEVE BARR IS NEVER GOING
TO PROSECUTE ME, AND THIS GUY
TRUMP, WHO, YOU KNOW, IS
ENJOYING BEING IMPEACHED, SO HE
SAYS.
SAYS. >> ENERGIZED, LIKE A RED BULL.
>> HE IS A SICK DUDE IS WHAT WE
REALLY IS.
REALLY IS. MAYBE HE HAD TOO MUCH RED BULL.
HE IS GOING TO PARDON THEM ALL.
THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO
BELIEVE.
BELIEVE. THIS GUY HAS LOYALTY TO ONLY ONE
PERSON.
PERSON. ASK RUDY GIULIANI.
LAST FRIDAY HE THROWS HIMUP THE
BUS, AND OVER THE WEEKEND HE
SIDLES UP TO HIM AGAIN SAYING HE
IS A GOOD LAWYER.
>> AS I BRING IN JASON, LET ME
GET IN TWO POINTS OF ORDER.
I’M NOT SPECIFICIFYING WHETHER
THE PRESIDENT IS QUOTE/UNQUOTE A
SICK DUDE.
SICK DUDE. >> ANOTHER THE 25th AMENDMENT
PERHAPS.
PERHAPS. >> BUT I HAVE CHECKING THAT HE
HAS CONTRADICTED HIMSELF
NUMEROUS TIMES ON MATTERS LARGE
AND SMALL ON THIS ISSUE.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> BUT NUMBER TWO, JASON, WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THIS WRIT LARGE,
IT’S EASY TO LOSE TRACK OF THE
FACT THAT THE WHITE HOUSE SET
OUT A STRATEGY HERE, AND IT WAS
TO DENY EVIDENTIARY OXYGEN TO
CONGRESS.
CONGRESS. IN THE PEOPLE DON’T COMPLY, IF
THE WITNESSES DON’T SHOW UP, IF
THEY DON’T TURN ANYTHING OVER,
THEN WON’T CONGRESS LOOK
POTENTIALLY TO SOME PEOPLE LIKE
THEY’RE REACHING TO RUSH TO A
CONCLUSION IN SOMETHING THAT IS,
ALTHOUGH IT’S NOT A TRADITIONAL
TRIAL, IS SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH
EVIDENCE AND FACTS?
AND I WOULD NOTE FOR YOUR
ANALYSIS, JASON, THAT IS FAILING
BEFORE OUR EYES.
THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING.
FORMER OFFICIALS WHO HAVE A
LITTLE MORLEY WAY, BUT ALSO
CURRENT OFFICIALS.
CURRENT OFFICIALS. AND FOR YOUR REVIEW, JASON, YOUR
THOUGHTS ON WHAT I’M ABOUT TO
SHOW WHICH IS THE PENTAGON ALSO
REJECTS DONALD TRUMP’S
STONEWALLING STRATEGY.
STONEWALLING STRATEGY. NEW SOUND.
NEW SOUND. TAKE A:00 LOO.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLY WITH
THE SUBPOENA THAT THE HOUSE
PROVIDED AND PROVIDE DOCUMENTS
TO THEM REGARDING THE HALT TO
MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE.
>> WE’RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO COMPLY.
IS THAT A YES?
>> THAT IS A YES.
WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
COMPLY.
COMPLY. >> BECAUSE NO ONE IS TRYING TO
GO TO JAIL FOR THIS GUY.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE LOYALISTS
TO DONALD TRUMP MAY SAY WE HAVE
TO RECOGNIZE THIS IN THE GRANDER
SCHEME OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE THE
POLITICAL AND THE IMPEACHMENT
ELEMENT, WHICH IS ALL OF THIS
WAS DONE IN ORDER FOR HIM TO
HAVE A MATERIAL IMPACT IN THE
2020 ELECTIONS.
2020 ELECTIONS. THAT’S WHERE THE IMPEACHMENT
COMES IN.
COMES IN. THE REST OF THIS, THE
STONEWALLING OF CONGRESS AND THE
HIDING OF INFORMATION, EVERY
SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED, THESE
ARE CAREER CIVIL SERVANTS OR
THINKING TO THEMSELVES, I DON’T
WANT THE FACE JAIL TIME.
I DON’T WANT THE FACE CHARGES.
YOU’VE SEEN COHEN GO TO JAIL.
YOU’VE SEEN MANAFORT GO TO JAIL.
THESE REGULAR CIVIL SERVANTS ARE
NOT TRYING TO TAKE THAT KIND OF
HEAT.
HEAT. SO THE PRESIDENT IS REALIZING
NOW THE LIMITS OF HIS INFLUENCE.
IT’S NOT JUST THAT HE HASN’T
SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE A LOYAL PAT
TRON BUT HE REALIZED THAT HIS
CORRUPTION HAS TRICKLED SO FAR
DOWN THAT REGULAR PEOPLE WHO GO
TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY AND
COME HOME TO CHEVY CHASE ARE
LOOK, I NEED TO HAVE A LIFE
BEYOND THIS ADMINISTRATION AND
I’M NOT GOING TO CARRY WATER FOR
THIS LEVEL OF CORRUPTION.
>> JOHN?
>> JOHN? >> I WAS THINKING WHILE HE WAS
SAYING THAT, IT’S NOT JUST A
DETERRENT THAT THEY’RE AFRAID TO
GO TO JAIL.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH REAL ETHIC
CHARACTER, WE HAVE JOVANOVIC,
THEY MIGHT CALL THEMSELVES SOME
MIDDLE CLASS GANG, MAYBE, THE
JETS.
JETS. THESE GUYS ARE JUST BAT AT THE
CORE.
CORE. AND WHAT’S HAPPENING IS WE’RE
SHEDDING THE BEST PEOPLE COMING
OUT AND BEGINNING TO TALK, WE’RE
BEGINNING TO HAVE A CRITICAL
MASS OF WITNESSES AGAINST THE
CRIMES.
CRIMES. AND UNLIKE WHAT THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL HAD TO DO, THE TREKS ARE
STILL RECENT.
STILL RECENT. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THAT
INVESTIGATION WAS SO MUCH TIME
HAS PASSED.
HAS PASSED. THIS IS NOW.
AND IT’S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO
COVER UP WHAT IS GOING ON
BECAUSE WE CAN GET THEM NOW WITH
PEOPLE WHO ARE PREPARED TO TALK
IT.
IT. >> YOU SAID MAYBE THE JETS?
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
>> YEAH, I THINK I SAID THAT.
>> BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU’RE
A JET, YOU’RE A JET ALL THE WAY,
JOHN.
JOHN. >> YES, I KNOW THAT.
AND THEY WERE JETS ALL THE WAY.
YOU COULDN’T CALL THEM THE
GENOVESE CRIME FAMILY ALTHOUGH
IT’S CLOSER TO THAT.
>> ALL THIS CRIME FAMILY TIE,
YOU’RE GOING TO PULL A PROMOTION
OUT OF ME WHICH IS FRANCES FORD
COPPOLA IS ON THE BEAT LATER
TONIGHT.
TONIGHT. WALK US THROUGH THE LEGAL PART.
THERE IS THE LAWYER, THE
TESTIMONY.
TESTIMONY. THE CONGRESSIONAL PART APPEARS
TO BE THAT THIS INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE, BACKED FINALLY WITH
THE FULL FORCE OF THE SPEAKER,
WHICH IS A CHANGE, WE’RE LOOKING
AT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN SPEAKER PELOSI SAYING
WHAT SHE SAID.
SHE IS A BIG CRITIC OF DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. SHE DOES BELIEVE SHE SAID HE HAD
VIOLATED THE OATH.
NOW, THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THE
COMBINATION OF WHISTLE-BLOWERS
AND HER PUTTING THE FULL FORCE
OF HER POWER OF SPEAKER, BOY, IT
DOES LOOK LIKE NIGHT AND DAY,
DOESN’T IT, JASON?
>> IT DOES, IT DOES.
ARI, I HAVE CRITIQUED NANCY
PELOSI FOR A LONG TIME.
>> ON THIS PROGRAM.
>> PART OF THE REASON IT TOOK
THIS LONG IS SHE HAD THROWN
WATER AND SAID I’M NOT READY FOR
THIS.
THIS. NOW BECAUSE OF PRESIDENTIAL
BEHAVIOR, HE HAS DONE SO BAD AND
SO OBVIOUS THAT MANY MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS ARE OKAY, THAT’S FINE.
I CAN VOTE FOR THIS.
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE THE
COMMITTEE TESTIMONIES, SOMETIMES
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, SOMETIMES
IN PUBLIC.
IN PUBLIC. AND EACH OF THESE COMMITTEES ARE
GOING TO BASICALLY PUT THROUGH
THEIR OWN ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT.
IMPEACHMENT. THEY’LL GET TOGETHER IN A ROOM
AND DECIDE WHICH ONES ARE GOING
TO BE VOTED ON BY THE HOUSE AS A
WHOLE.
WHOLE. I THINK WHAT IS CRITICAL ABOUT
THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING ALSO
REGULAR PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND.
THIS TESTIMONY BY SONDLAND IS
GOING TO HAPPEN ON THURSDAY.
THE PRESIDENT TOLD ME THAT THERE
IS NO QUID PRO QUO.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE
PRESIDENT DICTATED WHAT HAPPENED
IN THE TRUMP TOWER MEETING.
WHO THE SAID THERE IS NO QUID
PRO QUO?
PRO QUO? DID HE PUT A SMILEY EMOJI AT THE
END?
END? EVERYBODY KNOW THERE’S WAS QUID
PRO QUO.
PRO QUO. EVEN THOSE WHO ARE NERVOUS HAVE
GONE HOME FOR THE HOLIDAY AND
SAID THIS IS STILL WORKING WITH
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> JASON, A VERY IMPORTANT
POINT, WHICH UNDER THE HONESTBBS
ACT, IF YOU MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO