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Transcription of interview with Dina Proctor on November 11, 2013.
Douglas Goldstein, CFPÆ, Financial Planner & Investment Advisor
Dina Proctor is the author of bestselling book called Madly Chasing Peace: How I Went
From Hell to Happy in 9 Minutes a Day.
Douglas Goldstein, financial planner & investment advisor, interviewed Proctor on Arutz Sheva
Radio.
Douglas Goldstein: Tell us about your book Madly Chasing Peace.
DinaProctor: Itís kind of a hybrid.
Itís like a half memoir and half self-help book.
Basically, digging myself out of the hardest time of my life, I accidentally I came up
with this meditation method that I call 3 by 3 meditation.
Itís 3 minutes 3 times a day.
What I discovered in creating this method and really saving my own life is that when
I do the internal work, get my mindset and my emotions in place with whatever I wanted
to create in my life whether itís financial abundance, healthy relationships, healthy
body, when I get my mindset and emotional state in the right place to create that, the
outside circumstances to come into place reflecting that.
So really discover the importance of getting the inside rights so that the outside falls
into place and I do that in 3 minutes 3 times a day.
Thatís kind of the summary of the whole book.
Douglas Goldstein: As a financial advisor, people think they are going to talk to me
all about money and stocks and bonds and mutual funds but really I probably spend a great
deal of time just talking about your attitude towards money.
Have you spoken to people about this?
DinaProctor: Some of my clients I work actively with their money mindset because we may have
beliefs that weíre holding or behaviors that we engage in or attitudes that we hold that
are subconsciously blocking us to allowing abundance coming in to our lives.
So cleaning that up and even realizing that we have these behaviors or attitudes is really
the first fundamental step in being able to create abundance.
Douglas Goldstein: What are some of the things that people have maybe been lack that of seeing
or had difficulty seeing?
DinaProctor: In the people that I coach, a lot f them are entrepreneurs or kind of self-help
people and thereís been issues that Iíve uncovered of guilt around having money and
so it might seem like ìI just want to help people and yes, I want to make a living but
I keep off running all these discountsî and we have sabotaged thing going on because there
may be a lack of deserving like ìI donít deserve this money coming to meî or there
may be a fear of sales, a thing of feeling like a sleazy sales person like ìI donít
like feeling like that.î You know person asking me change cable companies in the middle
of dinner and so I hold myself back on sharing what Iím able to contribute to peopleís
lives because I donít like closing the sale.
Iím uncomfortable with conversations about money.
So there are just a couple of examples of attitudes or mindsets Iíve helped people
work through.
Douglas Goldstein: How about just in home life letís say between spouses?
DinaProctor: I think thatís absolutely true because two different people could hold differing
opinions on how money works or creating money so I think getting that conversations right
and the air cleared on that can absolutely contribute to better abundance for the couple,
the relationship and the family.
Douglas Goldstein: Tell us a little bit about those 9 minutes a day, what is it look like
and is it really possible to use 9 minutes a day to in fact improve your situation?
DinaProctor: You know whatís funny is because I knew that kind of going into it, I knew
the power that it created for me but when I wrote my book, I wanted some kind of like
exterior validation that this was in fact a method that was really feasible and practical
and powerful for people.
So I interviewed a neuroscientist, Dr. Bruce Lipton and I told him Iíve been able to create
healing in my body from addiction, Iíve lost weight in a relatively effortless kind of
manner using mostly mindset alone, creating different relationship with food.
Iíve created an entire company, a business and finances and all of that sort of thing
and I just said ìAll Iím doing is sitting still for 3 minutes 3 times a day and visualizing
what I want to create for myself.
Itís very key to have a process where you know how to quiet your mind and hold a vision
of what you wanted to create and connect to that emotionally because thatís what creates
the results physically.î I told him this is what I do and itís only 9 minutes a day
and he laughed and he said ìIíd never heard anything like thisî but he goes ìI have
no doubt that itís so powerful because what youíre doing is youíre not just using this
visualization or meditation and checking it off the list once a day, youíre tapping into
in creating new synaptic firings in your brain, like new neuro-pathways in your brain so that
the way you think, the way you believe and therefore the way that you act in life becomes
different and youíre re-patterning your brain 3x a day so thatís 21 times a week rather
than just kind of once a day so it become youíre new normal, youíre new way of thinking,
youíre new way of living.
Thatís where the power of it isî and it doesnít take a whole lot of time to do it.
You do have to touch that space of belief of that new thought pattern you want to create
but you donít necessarily have to stay there for 20 minutes or more in order for it to
be effective.
Three minutes really is plenty to be able to create that.
Douglas Goldstein: How long until someone begins to see a change?
DinaProctor: The clients I work with, we take it 7 days at a time because when youíre working
with something for 7 days, you can really play full out with it.
I know it takes 21 or 28 days to create a habit but if I tell myself ìOkay, Iím going
to do this for 30 daysî I could get to day 13-14 and think ìMaybe I should start.î
Thereís not really an urgency to it but when youíre doing something for 7 days, thereís
the urgency to it and you play full out with it so even if you get to day 3 or 4 and think
ìThis is too hardî or ìI donít think this is workingî you can remind yourself I only
have to do this for 3 or 4 more days.
To answer your question about how long it takes, every single person that Iíve worked
with or taught this to it who has played full out for 7 days at a time after 7 days has
noticed a definite difference.
That doesnít mean they went from zero to a million dollars in 7 days but it means that
they literally can feel physically and emotionally and mentally different about the issue than
they did 7 days previous.
So you can notice a difference in that amount of time.
Douglas Goldstein: Do you find that your clients sometimes go ìI canít stop for that longî?
DinaProctor: Iíve heard this quote, I think itís like a Buddhist quote.
ìIf you have time to meditate, meditate for 20 minutes.
If you donít have time to meditate, meditate for an hour.î Our busyness and our franticness
is largely our mindset.
It can largely be solved if we change the way that weíre thinking.
Itís kind of like being in the zone.
When youíre in the zone and youíre getting a whole bunch of work done, youíre getting
two weeksí worth of work done in four hours.
Weíve all had little pockets of time lie that of being in the zone where weíre super
productive, super effective and we kind of canít believe that itís happening this well.
What you can do with this little 3-minute breaks throughout the day is refocus so that
you can get that feeling of being in the zone and youíre more efficient and effective,
you approach your day more as this what I want to create in my day and have a deliberate
intention behind it rather than just like ìOh my gosh, Iím just kind of blowing with
the wind and putting out fires.î It changes the way that you see your life.
It changes your perception of time actually and you start getting more effective with
it.
I tell people if youíre super busy in the middle of the day, thatís when your old thought
pattern is going the strongest and thatís when itís not going to occur to you to take
this refocus breaks, but if you discipline yourself to do that, the middle of the day
1 is actually the one thatís most powerful in being able to create change because youíre
interrupting your old thought programming when itís at its strongest and thatís very
powerful to do.
I always tell people donít make even small decisions, when youíre in touch with your
intuition and in alignment with the knowledge and resources that you need in order to make
an intelligent decision, youíre going to feel more peaceful about it.
Youíre not going to feel anxious.
So I always tell people like take the time to cultivate that being in alignment with
that decision, letting go of any anxiety or overwhelm that you have because thatís when
youíre going to make the best decision for yourself.
Douglas Goldstein: How can we listen to some more of the interviews youíve done with some
really cool people including Jack Canfield from the creator of the Chicken Soup series?
DinaProctor: Listeners can click on the link thatís provided.
I did 9-minute interviews with 13 self-help gurus and I have a link where you can listen
into Jack Canfield, Arielle Ford and Bob Proctor.
Iíve got those three and they are ready for listeners and then I also have the others
with other people you can see right on the homepage of my website and if they purchase
the book, they can have access to all of those interviews for free by just entering their
purchase details right on the website.
Douglas Goldstein: What is your website so people can easily find you as well?
DinaProctor: The website is the name of the book which is www.madlychasingpeace.com.
Douglas Goldstein, CFPÆ, is the director of Profile Investment Services and the host
of the Goldstein on Gelt radio show (Monday nights at 7:00 PM on www.israelnationalradio.com.
He is a licensed financial professional both in the U.S. and Israel.
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His book Building Wealth in Israel is available in bookstores, on the web, or can be ordered
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