BACK NOW FROM CBS 4 NEWS,
THIS IS FACING SOUTH FLORIDA,
WITH JIM DEFEDE. -- > NOW
FROM CBS 4 NEWS, THIS IS FACING
SOUTH FLORIDA, WITH JIM DEFEDE
HE.
THINK FOR JOINING US, WE'LL
INTRODUCE YOU TO MATT HAGMAN,
WHO IS LOOKING TO REPLACE THE
CURRENT HOLDER.
AND THERE'S A CHANCE THAT JOHN
-- DONNA SHALALA WILL INTO THE
RACE.> PRESIDENT TRUMP
OFFERED A NEW PROPOSAL, ANGRY
BOTH THE LEFT AND RIGHT, ON
IMMIGRATION PERIOD THE PLAN AND
THE INITIAL REACTION.
-- ON IMMIGRATION.
Reporter: A PATH TO
CITIZENSHIP FOR 1.8 MILLION
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, BROUGHT TO
THE U.S. AS CHILDREN, COUNTING
700,000 WHO ARE REGISTERED, AND
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHERS
WERE NOT, IN RETURN, THE
PRESIDENT WANTS $30 BILLION
REPORTER SECURITY, $25 BILLION
WHERE WALCOTT AND HE WANTS TO
SCALE BACK THE VISA LOTTERY
SYSTEM, AND AND EXTENDED FAMILY
BASED MIGRATION.
I THINK IT IS A SERIOUS
PROPOSAL.
Reporter: ONE OF THE
LAWMAKERS LEADING EFFORTS TO
WORK OUT A DEAL.
THIS IS THE MOST GENEROUS
PROPOSAL FOR THE DREAMERS, THAT
ANY ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT
FORWARD, -- PUT FORWARD .
REPORTER: HIS FELLOW
REPUBLICAN TWEETED HIS
APPROVAL, SAY THAT IT SHOWS
THAT HE WANTS A FUTURE IN
AMERICA FOR THE DREAMERS, THEY
SAID SHOW THE BILL AND LET SOME
OF THE NOW.
BUT SOUTH FLORIDA DEMOCRATS ARE
NOT PRESS, DEBBIE WASSERMAN
SCHULTZ CALLS IT A BIGOTED
RANSOM NOTE, WHILE OTHERS SAY
THEY WANT TO HOLD THE DREAMERS
HOSTAGE.
THEY SAY THAT THE PATH TO
CITIZENSHIP IS A CONCESSION,
AND A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW FOR
CONSERVATIVES, BREITBART
ALREADY CALLED THE PRESIDENT
AMNESTY DON.
BREITBART CALLED YOU AMNESTY
DON, IS THAT ACCURATE?
Reporter: IT CUTS ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION BY LEVELS NOT SEEN
SINCE THE 1920S. SO AS YOU
CAN SEE, THIS IS A LONG WAY
FROM BEING A DONE DEAL, HERE
ARE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL
PITFALLS, FOR DEMOCRATS, THE
COST OF THE BOARD WAS HIGH, AND
THIS IS BEING PAID FOR BY U.S.
TAXPAYERS, THAT MEXICO.
AS THE PREMISES -- AS THE
PRESIDENT PROMISED DURING THE
CAMPAIGN.
IT IS A STORE, A NEW CITIZEN
COULD NOT SPONSOR THEIR MOTHER,
OR FATHER, ONLY THEIR SPOUSES
AND MINOR CHILDREN.
THAT WOULD BE EIGHT PICTURE
PILL FOR MANY, AND AS RICK
MENTIONED, FOR REPUBLICANS,
POINTEDLY PEOPLE, DOCUMENTED,
WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY, AND
GIVEN A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP,
WILL THAT EVOKES THE DIRTIEST
WORD OF ALL FOR THEM, AMNESTY.
WE WILL STAY ON THIS.
WE WILL TURN TO THE 2010
MIDTERM ELECTIONS, SEVERAL
HOUSES TO PLAY, NONE OF THEM
ATTRACTING MORE ATTENTION THAN
THE RACE TO REPLACE ILEANA,
EIGHT DEMOCRATS RUNNING TO BE
THE NOMINEE, AND FOR REASONS,
THERE ARE SO MANY, A DISTRICT
THAT HILLARY CLINTON WON BY 16
POINTS, AND WITH THE
EXPECTATION THAT THERE IS A
DEMOCRATIC WAVE THAT COULD FLIP
THE HOUSE INTO THE HANDS OF
DEMOCRATS, THE VIEW IS WHOEVER
WINS THE PRIMARY IN AUGUST,
WILL LIKELY COAST TO WASHINGTON
IN NOVEMBER.
BUT WORKING IN THE WINGS AS AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO COULD -- FLIP
THIS RACE IN THE SIDE, DONNA
SHALALA, SHE SERVED FROM 1993
TO 2001, AS HEALTH AND HUMAN
SECRETARY AS -- IN THE CLINTON
MENSTRUATION, AND SHE WAS THE
PRESIDENT OF MIAMI UNIVERSITY,
AND IN 2008 SHE WAS AWARDED THE
PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM
BY GEORGE BUSH.
LET'S EXPLORE THIS MORE.
JOINING ME NOW IS CRAIG SMITH,
IN THE CLINTON MENSTRUATION, HE
KNOWS CHINA SHALL IN THE WELL.
THANK YOU FOR COMING .
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT ASK
YOU, AS A FORMER POLITICAL
DIRECTOR FOR THE WHITE HOUSE,
SEE THE PRESENCE PROPOSE ON
IMMIGRATION, I WANT TO GET YOUR
REACTION ON IT, AND NEGOTIATING
STANDPOINT, MAKING IT LANGUAGE
FOR BOTH SIDES, OR IS IT A
POLITICAL DOCUMENT?
IT LOOKS LIKE A POLITICAL
DOCUMENT, IT GIVES CONGRESS A
PLACE TO START, HIS PROPOSAL
THAT -- HAS SOMETHING THAT BOTH
SIDES WANT DESPERATELY, AND ONE
THING THAT BOTH SIDES HATE
DESPERATELY.
ONCE YOU RUN IT THROUGH THE
MEAT GRINDER OF CONGRESS, WE
WILL SEE WHAT COMES OUT, MY
SINCE IT WOULD BE WATERED DOWN
FROM BOTH EXTREMES, SOMEWHERE
IN THE MATTER, WITH THE CLOCK
RUNNING ON THE DREAMERS, WE
HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RELATIVELY
QUICKLY, AND FOR THE FIRST
TIME, THE WHITE HOUSE IS LAID
OUT A PROPOSAL.
THE WHITE HOUSE CHANGES ITS
POSITION EVERY 48 HOURS, WE
WILL SEE WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS
BY MONDAY. WE WILL SEE HOW HE
LIKES BEING CALLED AMNESTY JOHN
-- AMNESTY DON.
THAT WANTS IT TO ALL.
AND YOU KNOW DONNA SHALALA, THE
SPECULATION THAT SHE IS
INTERESTED IN RUNNING, I HAVE
CONFIRMED THAT THERE IS A POOL
THAT WAS DONE, WHAT WOULD DONNA
SHALALA'S INJURY -- ENTRY INTO
THIS RACE MEAN?
LOOK, SHE WOULD BE A SERIOUS
CANDIDATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT,
SHE HAS RAISED DEALINGS OF
DOLLARS FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI, SHE HAS CONNECTIONS ALL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SHE WOULD
COME INTO THE RACE WITH A HUGE
AMOUNT OF NAME IDENTIFICATION,
MORE THAN MOST OF THE REST OF
THE CANDIDATES PERIOD -- REST
OF THE CANDIDATES.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, A
SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE, RAISING
A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF THE
MONEY THAT THE CANDIDATES RAISE,
WHICH IS THE IDEA THAT SHE
STARTS IT WITH -- ID. ALL OF
THE CANDIDATES IN THIS RACE,
WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, AND
SAY OKAY, THIS IS FUNDAMENTALLY
DIFFERENT FROM THE RACE I HAVE
BEEN IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS,
HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE
DYNAMIC YEAR, IMPACTING ME, AND
MAKING DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.
ONE OF THE IMPACTS OF DONNA
SHALALA'S ENTRY INTO THE RACE,
I WANT YOUR OPINION, IT
NATIONALIZES THE RACE IN A WAY
THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ONE
BEFORE, IN THIS CONTEXT,
WHOEVER THE REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE IS RUNNING AGAINST
HER, WHETHER IT IS BOLERO, SHE
RENO -- CHIRINO, AGAINST ONE OF
THE EIGHT CANDIDATES DECLARED,
CHANCES ARE THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO BE ABLE TO RAISE NATIONAL
MONEY, BUT IF DONNA SHALALA IS
THE CANDIDATE, WON'T THE
REPUBLICAN BE ABLE TO RAISE
MONEY ON THE FACT THAT I AM
GOING AGAINST BILL CLINTON'S
HEALTH AND HUMES'S SECRETARY,
HILLARY CLINTON'S BEST FRIEND,
ALL THAT NATIONAL MONEY WILL
FLOW IN FROM THE RACE?
IT COULD BE, NOW, YOU HAVE
TO LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY, WHERE THEY SAID TODAY.
KIND OF LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE
RESULTS OF THE SPECIAL
ELECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD
OVER THE COURSE OF LAST YEAR,
THIS IS A SHIP THAT IS TAKEN ON
A LOT OF WATER, THEY HAVE ONLY
SOMEBODY LIFEJACKETS -- ONLY SO
MANY LIFEJACKETS, A LOT OF
RETIREMENTS, THE QUESTION IS,
ARE THEY WILLING TO INVEST
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT SHOULD
HAVE FUNCTIONALLY BEEN A
DEMOCRATIC SEAT 20 YEARS AGO,
DO THEY WANT TO INVEST THEIR
MONEY, WHEN THEY HAVE SO MANY
OTHER CANDIDATES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY?
I'M NOT SURE THEY WILL MAKE
THAT DECISION, THEY WILL HAVE
TO LOOK AT THE CABELLO SEAT, A
DEMOCRAT WHO IS FOR OBAMACARE,
FOR DACA, GLOBAL WARMING, HOW
MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE
THEY GOING TO SPEND TO SAVE
HIM? WHY DO YOU THINK DONNA
SHALALA WOULD WANT TO DO THIS,
SHE IS 77, SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED
SO MUCH, WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO
DO THIS? I AM ALWAYS
PERPLEXED WHY ANYBODY WANTS TO
RUN TO OFFICE -- RUN FOR
OFFICE, WITH ALL THE PAIN, BUT
SHE SPENT HER WHOLE LIFE CARING
DEEPLY ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE
IMPORTANT, WOMEN, CHILDREN,
HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, SHE IS
SOMEBODY WHO IS -- GETS UP
EVERY DAY, AND HAS A FIRE IN
HER BELLY TO GO OUT THERE AND
MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR PEOPLE,
AND IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES,
THIS JUST A CONTINUATION OF
WHAT SHE SPENT HER WHOLE LIFE
DOING. SOMEBODY TOLD ME SHE
IS ANGRY? I DON'T THINK SHE
IS ANGRY PERIOD THE WAY THE
DIRECTION THE COUNTRY IS GOING,
THAT KIND OF ANGRY.
I THINK SHE'S CONCERNED, AND
SHE FEELS LIKE SHE CAN DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT, MAKE THE
SITUATION BETTER, I THINK SHE
LOOKS AT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
ATTEMPTS TO UNRAVEL AN --
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS,
WORKER SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS,
AND THAT IS NOT THE COUNTRY
THAT SHE BROKE -- GREW UP IN,
NOT THE COUNTRY SHE WANTS TO
LIVE IN, AND SHE FEELS LIKE SHE
IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND SHE
WANTS TO.
IT IS THE END OF JANUARY,
THE PRIMARY IS IN AUGUST, AND
AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE, SHE HAS HUGE
NAME IDENTIFICATION,
REALISTICALLY, FROM A POLITICAL
STANDPOINT, WHAT IS THE LATEST
SHE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A
DECISION, AND IS IT FAIR TO THE
OTHER CANDIDATES IF SHE STARTS
PLAYING THE MARIO CUOMO, MAYBE
I WILL RUN, MAYBE I WON'T, ON
THE HUDSON?
SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE LUXURY,
IF SHE'S GOING TO DO THIS SHE'S
GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE IT
RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
WITH ANY FEW WEEKS?
THAT WITHIN A FEW WEEKS?
YES, I DON'T THINK SHE --
WITHIN A FEW WEEKS? YES, I
DON'T THINK THAT SHE CAN REALLY
WENT ON THIS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY,
A TEAM, STAFF, HAVE
ORGANIZATION, PEOPLE KNOCKING
ON DOORS. PUTTING THE OLD
CLINTON BAND BACK TOGETHER?
I DON'T IT'S GOING TO BE
THAT, THE CLINTON BAND IS A
MISNOMER, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN
THIS COUNTRY VOTED FOR HIM,
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE VOTED FOR
HER, DONNA SHALALA IS SOMEBODY
THAT HAS POLITICAL CREDENTIALS
BEFORE THE CLINTON'S.
SHE IS 77, IS THERE AN
ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THERE
IS TIME FOR A NEW GUARD, LET
THOSE -- ARE WE REALLY GOING TO
SEND A 77-YEAR-OLD WOMAN TO
CONGRESS TO JOINING NANCY
PELOSI AND CHUCK SCHUMER, DIANE
FEINSTEIN, WHERE IS THE YOUTH
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY? I
THINK WE SEE THAT THROUGHOUT
THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY.
IF SHE WANTS TO GET INTO THE
RATE -- INTO THE RACE, SHE WILL
BE SERIOUS, SHE MAY BE 77, BUT
SHE'S GOING TO CAMPAIGN LIKE
SHE IS 20 YEARS OLD AND 20
POINTS DOWN.
WHAT DOES YOUR GUT TELL
YOU? I DON'T KNOW, NO ONE CAN
TALK HER INTO THIS RACE AND NO
ONE CAN TALK HER OUT OF IT, IT
IS HER DECISION, I CAN'T TELL
YOU WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE.
GREG MS. -- CRAIG SMITH, IT
WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW
GOES, JUST LAST MINUTE, A LOT
OF CANDIDATES IN THE RACE, WE
WILL TALK TO ONE OF THEM, JOSI
RODRIGUEZ, A GREAT LINEUP OF
CANDIDATES IN THIS RACE.
DO YOU THINK THAT THE ENTRY OF
DONNA SHALALA WOULD HAVE A
DOMINO EFFECT OF PUSHING SOME
OF THOSE CANDIDATES INTO MAYBE
JUMPING INTO IT, NO ONE IS
CHALLENGING, TOO MUCH OF A
CONCENTRATION IN ONE RACE AND
NOT OTHERS?
AS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT, I
HATE TO SEE DEMOCRATS RUNNING
AGAINST OTHER DEMOCRATS, AND IN
A FIELD WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF
GOOD CANDIDATES, TO SEE THEM
BOUNCING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER,
AND HAVING SOME OF THEM PUT IN
A POSITION TO LOSE, IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT I EVER LIKE TO
SEE HAPPEN.
BUT THAT IS A PERSONAL DECISION
THAT EACH OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE
TO MAKE, RUNNING FOR OFFICE IS
NOT -- HAVING BEEN THERE AND
SEEN IT FROM THE EARLY STAGES,
IT'S NOT SOMETHING FOR THE MEEK.
IT IS VERY PERSONAL, A DECISION
LIKE THAT.
IF SHE ASKED YOU TO HELP
YOU, WOULD YOU HELP?
I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR 25