0:00:04.240,0:00:06.640 i thought it would
be interesting just
to
show you guys some snakes with the
spider ball python gene
just to kind of like see how they behave
or
the wobbling and everything and
i'm not sure because it's just like i've
never really
had a snake that had like a terrible
wobble
and i think that when you look at
spiderball pythons like you're kind of
almost
expecting it like any time there's a
little shake or anything oh that must be
the spiderball python gene
but when you're looking at other ball
pythons they'll kind of move
the same way they'll do the same kind of
things i noticed that
the biggest or most like pronounced
wobble
will be during feeding time but at the
same time
i've never had a spider ball python
that's had
had problems
eating breeding or doing anything that
it needs to do
so i don't think we should really
go out of our way to be making a pile of
spider ball pythons and
i have very few
in the first place but at the same i
don't really think i should have to
make an excuse to have them either
the spider ball python was my very first
snake
like almost 10 years ago and when i
bought it no one told me
about the spider gene having a wobble or
anything and i didn't even realize or
know that anything was wrong with it
until years later when it became a huge
thing that everyone was talking about
but most
i i've never had i've never dealt with a
real
like nightmare snake and here this one's
not a spider
i'm just holding some different stakes
letting them move and kind of watching
them i just wanted you
to be able to just kind of look at them
and see like if if you notice like
a terrible difference or a big
disability
in the spider snakes and we produce
all sorts of just breeders in general
produce
these bright amazing colored snakes that
would never
happen in the wild would never survive
in the wild
either because the colors would make
them stand out
and out in the wild they want to be able
to blend in and hide
but with the bright colors like they're
just going to be found and eaten right
away
but the interesting thing about the
spider ball python is it is a gene
that was found in the wild that way so
that's like the wild
type that that's how it looks in the
wild and they've survived in the wild
so for something to survive in the wild
it has to be
stronger so
i i just wanted to just i don't know
just share this with you give you some
information let you kind of see and look
for yourself if you see that
you think that this is something
terrible because
from what i've seen in videos online of
people with terrible snakes many times
it's not an animal they've raised it's
like something
that's been rescued or kept in bad
conditions
and if you keep any snake spider gene
fancy gene cheap gene it doesn't really
matter if you keep them in terrible
conditions
they are gonna lose you know
body structure they're gonna have
just as many problems or more
so i don't know i i really
i don't think that
they should be like and it's not like
anyone is
mass producing spiders to make a pile of
money off them to
to sell this spider gene snake is like a
hundred dollars
this one over here is like two three
hundred dollars
and uh back when i started bumblebee was
like the only
the fanciest or like the newest morphe
at the time
and all these animals have
survived thrived and that
is what really matters i think at least
so are they in pain
like i i don't believe that they're in
pain either
i definitely could say like they maybe
are discomforted or a little disoriented
a little bit wonky especially ones with
bad cases
but i've i've produced probably less
than 10 spiders
and all of them have eaten properly and
grown nicely and have not been
like terrible examples or crazy wonky
things so here
i'm trying to kind of flip it over
because people sit have said that like
they can't even flip themselves back
over but
i haven't been able to take a spider put
it on its back
i haven't even been able to put it on
its back because it stays
flipped properly so
the i don't know i just
i really thought it'd be interesting to
just kind of like let you look let you
see
and uh everybody has to make their own
choices
i i really don't believe that it's
unethical
to produce these animals
but that's just my opinion my opinion
might be wrong and over time if we learn
that
you know they are in pain
then obviously i wouldn't want to
produce an animal that's in pain
but when a snake is in pain
and it's uncomfortable
they generally show it by like
not being happy and not being happy
meaning like very easily
irritable when taking
in rescues in the past i've dealt with
snakes that just kind of
hate people and it
it's not automatic it's they've been
mistreated
or they're infested with mites or
something and then obviously like you go
touch it or anything they're really
0:06:39.440,0:06:42.319 hesitant
0:06:40.080,0:06:43.600 and they just want
to be left alone if
you're in pain
you want to be left alone but those kind
of behaviors
i've never seen in spider ball pythons
i've never seen them kind of like
behave in a way that would show
that they're going through pain
i've found them to be
very similar to any other
snake maybe adding morphs
to them takes away a bit of it or
i don't i i don't even know because it's
just i've had pure spiders i've had some
with more jeans and
they've never they've never really had
any problems they've
never done weird things my adult
original spider sometimes
sleeps with his head like upside down
like
he'll put himself in some weird like
contortiony positions sometimes
but he's still doing good after a decade
and i've seen these things in
other snakes too and even blue-eyed
lucy's like
my blue-eyed lucy's will miss
aiming at their food more than my
spiders do
my spiders will usually hit their food
and get it
on the first try and there's so many
other snakes that'll miss or so ball
0:08:06.639,0:08:09.280 python specifically they'll just aim
0:08:08.639,0:08:13.039 everywhere
0:08:09.280,0:08:15.199 they'll miss like
five times and
like so does that mean there's something
wrong with them
uh i personally think that the champagne
gene has more of a problem than the
spider gene does
but for some reason the spiders have
just been targeted
and it just feels like somebody
just some people just went at it and
decided we're gonna take this gene
and we're gonna really villainize it and
make it so that
no one should get it but to do that
to the spider that you have to do it
to the other ones too or
i don't know i just i don't
i don't see the problem with these
animals i don't see an animal
that's in pain and i don't see an animal
that fails to thrive
so
i just see a beautiful creature
that uh
might be a little funny and and some
people find that a little special
anyways the the that i just wanted to
show that to you
and share my thoughts
welcome to share yours as long as you're
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