BUSINESS, WHEN THEY STOP ASKING
FOR PICTURES, IT IS A BAD THING.
SO THIS IS A GOOD SIGN.
JOSH: ANOTHER CANDIDATE KNOWN TO
BUCK THE TREND FROM TIME TO TIME
IS BERNIE SANDERS.
REGISTERED ON CAPITOL HILL AS AN
INDEPENDENT, HE FILED FOR THE
NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY AS A
DEMOCRAT.
HE ADMIRES OTHER UNORTHODOX
FIGURES, BUT IN MANY PARTS OF
HIS LIFE, SANDERS IS AS
TRADITIONAL AS BASEBALL.
MR. SANDERS: MORNING!
CROWD: MORNING!
MR. SANDERS: WHY AM I THE ONLY
PERSON WEARING A TIE HERE?
JOSH: THAT IS BECAUSE ONLY HOURS
EARLIER THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE
FOR PRESIDENT WAS DOING HIS DAY
JOB IN THE SENATE AND IT WAS A
LATE-NIGHT.
MR. SANDERS: WE ARE NOT GOING TO
SOLVE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS BY
NOT PAYING OUR BILLS.
BUT THERE WE GO.
THAT IS WHAT 3:00 IN THE MORNING
HAS DONE.
JOSH: SURE, SANDERS IS A SENATOR
FROM VERMONT, BUT HE IS STILL
VERY MUCH BROOKLYN.
HE GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT WAS BOUND BY BASEBALL.
MR. SANDERS: YOU REMEMBER THE
BROOKLYN DODGERS?
IT WAS A TEAM THAT KNIT THE
ENTIRE BOROUGH TOGETHER.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT -- IF YOU
PRESS ME, I COULD NAME THE
STARTING LINEUP IN 1955,
PROBABLY.
WE LEARNED TO DO ARITHMETIC --
YOU WANT TO HEAR IT?
[LAUGHTER]
MR. SANDERS: HE IS AN
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER.
ALL RIGHT.
GIL HODGES ON FIRST, WE HAD AN
SHORT, BILLY COXE AT THIRD, LUKE
SNYDER IN CENTER FIELD, ROY
CAMPANELLI CATCHING, DON
DRYSDALE, AND MANY OTHER GREAT
PICTURES.
VERY GOOD!
[APPLAUSE]
MR. SANDERS: ASK ME WHAT I DID
YESTERDAY AND I CAN'T QUITE
REMEMBER.
[LAUGHTER]
HOW DOES A KID FROM BROOKLYN
AND UP IN VERMONT?
MR. SANDERS: SMART GUY.
[LAUGHTER]
MR. SANDERS: THE STORY THERE IS
THAT I GREW UP IN BROOKLYN AND
MY PARENTS SENT ME TO BOY SCOUT
CAMP.
IT WAS UP AND NARROWS BERG, NEW
YORK -- NARROWSBURG, NEW YORK.
AND I LOVED IT THERE.
I LOVED IT, IT WAS ABOUT THREE
OR FOUR WEEKS.
IT WAS MY FIRST REAL EX
PERIENCE WITH THE WOODS.
WHEN I CAME BACK, I REALLY LIKED
THINKING ABOUT GOING OUTSIDE AND
HIKING.
WHEN I WAS A KID, MY OLDER
BROTHER TOOK ME TO NEW HAT -- TO
MANHATTAN.
THIS WAS YEARS AND YEARS AND
YEARS AGO.
WE WOULD GO TO RADIO CITY MUSIC
HALL AND MY BROTHER WOULD TAKE
LEAFLETS AND WE WOULD PICK UP
EVERYTHING WE COULD.
SO I LEARNED ABOUT VERMONT.
JOSH: SANDERS MOVED TO VERMONT
WITH HIS WIFE RIGHT OUT OF
COLLEGE.
THEY BOUGHT 75 ACRES OF LAND FOR
THE TIDY SUM OF $2500, BUT IT
WAS THE PACE OF LIFE THAT WAS
THERE THAT SANDERS SAYS FIT HIM
LIKE A GLOVE.
MR. SANDERS: WHEN YOU GET INTO
THE COUNTRY, MY BLOOD PRESSURE
GOES DOWN.
IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT
EXPERIENCE.
I WAS JUST IN NEW YORK THE OTHER
DAY.
IT TURNS OUT AFTER ALL I AM KIND
OF A RURAL GUY.
WHAT IS YOUR STORY?
FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE?
MR. SANDERS: THAT IS A GREAT
QUESTION AND THE HONEST ANSWER
IS THAT I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS A LITTLE
KID, I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL,
AND THERE WAS ALWAYS A GUYS
BULLIED ME, AND I HAD AN INSTANT
JEWEL DISLIKE FOR THAT.
I WOULD WANT TO STAND UP FOR
LITTLE GUYS.
MAYBE SOME OF IT CAME, I SUSPECT
THAT -- I AM JEWISH -- WHEN I
WAS A LITTLE KID, MY FAMILY
WASN'T PARTICULARLY POLITICAL.
WE LEARNED WHEN I WAS A LITTLE
BOY IN THE LATE 40'S, YOU KNOW I
WAS COMING OF AGE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY
FATHER'S FAMILY, KILLED IN THE
HOLOCAUST, AND I THINK THAT LEFT
A LASTING -- I REMEMBER READING
PICTURE BOOKS OF WORLD WAR II
TEARS WERE COMING OUT OF MY EYES
-- SO I THINK THAT HAS LEFT A
LASTING IMPRESSION OF WHAT EVIL
IS AND WHAT OPPRESSION IS ABOUT
WHAT TERRIBLE PEOPLE DO TO HUMAN
BEINGS.
JOSH: IT WAS THERE THAT SANDERS
HAD FORMED HIS OPINION OF WEALTH
OR LACK OF THEIR OF IT.
MR. SANDERS: WHEN YOU HEAR YOU
ARE -- WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG AND
YOU HEAR YOUR PARENTS ARGUING
ABOUT MONEY, IT IS FRIGHTENING.
MY MOTHER WOULD SAY, WHY DO YOU
MAKE MORE MONEY?
I THINK -- SO, GROWING UP
WITHOUT A LOT OF MONEY, TO BE
CONSCIOUS OF WHAT THAT MEANS --
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT -- THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT IT MEANS, MAYBE YOU MAY
HAVE TROUBLE PUTTING GAS IN THE
CAR OR WORRY ABOUT THE LIGHTS
BEING SHUT OFF.
I GREW UP IN A FAMILY WHERE WE
STRUGGLED ECONOMICALLY.
IT IS A LESSON I HAVE NEVER,
EVER FORGOTTEN.
WHAT DID YOU DO TO RELAX?
MR. SANDERS: GOOD QUESTION.
WE HAVE SEVEN BEAUTIFUL
GRANDCHILDREN.
THEY ARE THE JOY OF MY LIFE.
THERE IS THIS LITTLE GUY, HE
NEVER STOPS.
WE HAD A MEDIA EVENT.
SOMEBODY FROM EUROPEAN
TELEVISION GOES, "WHY WOULD YOUR
GRANDFATHER BE A GOOD
PRESIDENT?"
FOUR YEARS OLD, HE SAYS, "WELL,
HE TEACHES ME HOW TO PLAY
BASEBALL."
[LAUGHTER]
JOSH: IN THIS CAMPAIGN, THE
LOW-KEY GRANDFATHER HAS GROWN
INTO A NATIONAL FIGURE, A
CELEBRITY THAT HE MET ITS IS
TOUGH TO GET USED TO.
MR. SANDERS: I AM HAPPY TO DO
SOMETHING.
[LAUGHTER]
MR. SANDERS: BUT IT IS -- I'M
USED TO IT IN VERMONT.
EVERYBODY IN VERMONT KNOWS ME.
BUT TO BE WALKING DOWN THE
STREETS OF CHICAGO AND NEW YORK
CITY OR PORTLAND, OREGON AND
PEOPLE COMING UP TO YOU AND
SAYING, BERNIE SANDERS, BERNIE
SANDERS, WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT
YOU HAVE TO BE ON YOUR TOES
TWICE FOUR HOURS A DAY.
JOSH: -- TOES 24 HOURS A DAY.
JOSH: ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES
TO THE MEDIA, A GROUP THAT
SANDERS BELIEVES OFTEN LOSES
SIGHT OF THE BALL.
MR. SANDERS: DUMBEST QUESTION IS
WHAT I HAD PUT INTO MY COFFEE?
[LAUGHTER]
MR. SANDERS: WELL YOU JUST SAW
IT, ONE CREAM, ONE CREAM.
I WAS NOT VERY NICE TO THEM.
I SAID, WE HAVE ONE OR TWO
CRISES IN AMERICA AND YOU WANT
TO KNOW HOW MUCH CREAM I PUT IN
MY COFFEE.
MAYBE I WAS HAVING A BAD DAY.
JOSH: THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT
SANDERS DOESN'T HAVE HUMOR.
HE DOES.
HE ENJOYS THE COMPARISON THAT IS
OFTEN MADE BETWEEN HIM AND THE
CREATOR OF "SEINFELD."
MR. SANDERS: I DON'T HOW TO SAY
THIS, BUT I AM LARRY DAVID.
WE LEFT BURNIE IN WASHINGTON.
HE WILL BE JOINING US LATER THIS
EVENING.
[LAUGHTER]