TRAPPED THEM. ONE OF THE WORKERS WAS AIR LIFTED TO THE HOSPITAL.
BOTH ARE EXPECTED TO BE OKAY.
and save 20 to 60 percent off OSHA IS NOW INVESTIGATING.
>>> NOW IT‘S TIME FOR THE
WEEKLY WITH JUSTIN WARMOTH.
>> ANCHOR: GOOD MORNING.
I‘M JUSTIN WARMOTH.
VTERS PASSED AMENDMENT 4 WITH
THE INTENTION TO RESTORING
VOTING RIGHTS TO MOST FELONS
WHO SERVED THEIR TIME.
BUT HOW IT WORKS REMAINS CLOUDY
BECAUSE OF THE BROVISIONS ADDED.
THEY WERE THEN CHALLENGED IN
THE STATE SUPREME COURT BY THE
THE STATE SUPREME COURT BY THE and save 20 to 60 percent off FLORIDA RIGHTS RESTORATION
COMMISSION AND DESMOND MEAD IS
HERE TO GIVE US A LOOK AT WHY
WE STAND.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING IN THIS
MORNING.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> WHEN FLORIDA VOTERS PASSED
AMENDMENT 4 LAST YEAR DUTHINK
ONE YEAR FROM THEN, TODAY, WE
WOULD STILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT
AND IT STILL BE CLOUDY?
>> YES, I DID.
BECAUSE THE NATURE OF AMENDMENT
4 IS SO POLITICAL.
EVEN WHEN WE RAN THE CAME PAIN
WE KEPT IT ABOVE PARTISAN
POLITICS AND RACE AND WE
UNDERSTAND ONCE POLITICIANS GOT
INVOLVED IT WOULD TAKE A MORE
POLITICAL NATURE AND THAT WOULD
ALWAYS CLOUD THINGS UP.
>> WHY IS IT SO PARTISAN?
>> THAT‘S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN and save 20 to 60 percent off YOU TALK ABOUT VOTING THAT IT
MAKES DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
ENGAGE ON THE PARTISAN LEVEL
AND THEY TOTALLY MISS THE POINT.
IT‘S ABOUT AMERICANS, HUMAN
BEINGS AND BEING ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY.
>> IT‘S SECOND CHANCE.
>> AND AMERICANS BELIEVE IN
SECOND CHANCES I WOULD IMAGINE?
SECOND CHANCES I WOULD IMAGINE? >> OF COURSE.
AND THEY PROVED IT ON ELECTION NIGHT.
>> IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED.
>> YES.
>> THE MIDTERM ELECTION LAST
and save 20 to 60 percent off YEAR.
I WANT TO TAKE ME AND THE VEERS
BACK TO THAT NIGHT.
>> IT WAS AN AMAZING EVENING.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT
THE NUMBERS AND THE 1.4 MILLION
PEOPLE WHO WERE ABLE TO GET THE
RIGHT TO VOTE BACK, BUT I
EXPERIENCED SOMETHING EVEN
GREATER THAN THAT.
I EXPERIENCED THAT PEOPLE FROM
ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND POLIT
CALIPER SITUATIONS CAME
TOGETHER AND MOVED A MAJOR
POLICY AROUND LOVE.
THOSE VOTES THAT WE HAD THAT
WAS A MILLION MORE THAN ANY
CANDIDATE RECEIVED WERE NOT
BASED ON HATE OR FEAR BUT
FORGIVENESS, LOVE AND
FORGIVENESS, LOVE AND and save 20 to 60 percent off REDEMPTION.
THAT NIGHT WE SAW LOVE TO WIN
THE DAY AND TO BE IN THE
AUDIENCE WITH THE ELDERLY
GENTLEMAN WHO PRIOR TO
AMENDMENT 4 PASSING WOULD HAVE
DIED BEFORE HE GOT TO VOTE
AGAIN, NOW HUGGING ME AND
CRYING ON MY SHOULDER SAYING
HOW HAPPY HE WAS THAT NOW HE
COULD VOTE BEFORE HE DIED, IT
IS THOSE MOMENTS THAT REALLY
and save 20 to 60 percent off SPEAK TO HOW GREAT AMENDMENT 4
WAS.
>> AND SOME MAY BE FAMILIAR
WITH YOUR STORY BUT BRIEFLY
TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHY
THIS DIRECTLY AFFECTS YOU AS
WELL.
>> YEAH, SO I, MYSELF, I‘M A
RETURNING CITIZEN.
BATTLED DRUGS FOR QUITE A LONG
TIME.
IT GET SO BAD I ENDED UP
IT GET SO BAD I ENDED UP and save 20 to 60 percent off STANDING ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS
WAITING FOR THE TRAIN TO COME
AND END MY LIFE.
BUT THE TRAIN CAME AND I
CROSSED THE TRACKS AND WENT
INTO DRUG TREATMENT AND AFTER
THAT MOVED INTO THE SHELTER AND
THEN WHILE THERE DECIDED TO GO
TO SCHOOL.
ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
DID REAL WELL AND EVENTUALLY
ACCEPTED INTO LAW SCHOOL AT
FLORIDA UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF
LAW AND IN MAY OF 2014 I
GRADUATED WITH A LAW DEGREE.
BUT BECAUSE OF FLORIDA‘S
POLICIES AND BECAUSE THEY
PERMANENTLY DISENFRANCHISED
PEOPLE WITH CONVICTIONS I
COULDN‘T EVEN PRACTICE LAW.
THEN I THINK IN 2016 MY WIFE,
SHE RAN FOR OFFICE AND I
COULDN‘T EVEN VOTE FOR HER.
THOUGH PRISONERS IN PUERTO RICO
COULD VOTE AND PEOPLE ACROSS
THE COUNTRY WAS ABLE TO VOTE
BECAUSE I LIVED IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, I COULD VOTE.
BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MY STORY
WASN‘T THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND
MY EFFORT.
IT WAS A STORY OF VETERANS WHO
WOULD FIGHT IN WARS TO DEFEND
OUR DEMOCRACY AND PUT THEIR
BODIES ON THE LINE AND COME
BACK TO SAVE YOU AND TRAUMATIZE
AND THEN THEY WOULD GET THE
DRUG CHARGE AND RIDE A BAD
CHECK AND BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN
THE STATE OF FLORIDA WERE TELD
THEY COULD NEVER VOTE AGAIN AND
THAT IS NOTHING INHERENTLY
WRONG WITH THAT AND TO ME I
CONSIDER THAT IN THE FRONT TO
DEMOCRACY AND THEN THE POWER TO
DECIDE WHICH AMERICAN CITIZEN
CAN VOTE AND WHICH CAN‘T VOTE
SHOULD NEVER BE LEFT IN THE
HAND OF THE POLITICIAN WHETHER
DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN OR
WHATEVER.
>> ANCHOR: IN THE CLEMENCY
PROCESS.
LET‘S NOT EACH CALL IT A
PROCESS.
PROCESS MEANS MOVE ALONG BUT
THIS DID NOT.
THE WAY THEY HANDLED IT IN THE
CAPITOL.
>>
CAPITOL. >> >> MOST DEFINITELY.
WE SAW PEOPLE WAITING OVER 10
YEARS JUST TO GET A HEARING AND
WHEN THEY GET IN HAVE LES THAN
1% OF GETTING A START AND IT IS
THE PURE ARBITRARY PROCESS THAT
DID NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY WHATY WE
SUDDEN THAT WHEN PEOPLE SERVED
THEIR TIME THEY SHOULD BE
ALLOWED.
AMERICAN CITIZENS SHOULD BE
ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN
DEMOCRACY.
WE ARE A STATE AND SHOULD BE
AND WE ARE NOW A STATE OF
SECOND CHANCES.
>> WE WERE IN THE PROCESS AND
SOME WHERE THEY‘RE
AUTOMATICALLY RESTORED NO
QUESTIONS ASKED.
>> THERE ARE SOME STATES YOU
NEVER LOSE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
FLORIDA AT THE TIME OF ONE OF 4
STATES PAPERMANENTLY BARRED
AMERICANS FROM EVER VOTING
AGAIN.
>> SO THE CRUX OF THIS AND THE
ISSUE THE GOVERNOR AND MAYBE
SOME LEGISLATORS HAVE IS THEY
DON‘T BELIEVE A SENTENCE IS
FINISHED WITHOUT THE
RESTITUTION AND FEES PAID.
IS THAT RIGHT?
IS THAT WHAT THE DEAL IS IT
>> THE CRUX IS WHAT CONSTITUTES
COMPLETION OF SENTENCE BECAUSE
AMENDMENT 4 IN ITS WORDING
CREATED 3 CONDITION THAT IS HAD
TO BE MET BEFORE THE RIGHT IS
TRIGGERED.
CAN BE 99 1 IS THAT YOU‘RE NOT
QUECONVICTS OF MURDER, NO
FELONY SEXUAL OOFNSES AND
CONDITION NUMBER 3 YOU FULLY
COMPLETED YOUR SENTENCE AS
ORDERED BY THE JUDGE AND THE
MANY QUESTION OR THE PERTINENT
QUESTION IS WHAT CONSTITUTED
COMPLETION OF SENTENCE.
WHAT WE KNEW GOING INTO THIS IS
THERE ARE CERTAIN OFFENSE FIST
A PERSON IS FOUND GUILTY OF
CARRIS WITH IT A MANDATORY
CARRIS WITH IT A MANDATORY and save 20 to 60 percent off STATUTORY FINE.
RIGHT?
AND IT‘S NOT PRESENT IN ALL
CASES BUT IN SOME WRITTEN
WITHIN THE STATUTE IS THE
PROVISION THAT PHYSICALS YOU‘RE
FOUND GUILTY YOU CAN FACE UP TO
5 YEARS IN PRISON AND UP TO A
5,000 DOLLAR FINE.
WE BELIEVE THAT IF A JUDGE
IMPOSED THAT FINE AT THE TIME
OF SENTENCING THEN THAT IS PART
OF THAT SENTENCE, RIGHT?
WHAT WE PUSH BACK AGAINST
INITIALLY IS EXTRA FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS THAT WERE NOT PART
OF THE SENTENCE.
RIGHT?
THAT IS WHAT WE INITIALLY
PUSHED BACK AGAINST.
BUT WE KNEW THAT STATUTORY
FINES AND ALSO BELIEVED THE
RESTITUTION TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
RIGHT?
WE BELIEVE THAT AS PEOPLE WHO
HAVE MADE MISTAKES AND PEOPLE
THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED HARM IN
OURCOMMUNITY, WE‘RE 100%
COMMITTED TO REPAIRING THAT
HARM AND BEING AN ASSET TO THE
COMMUNITY AND THAT MEANS IF I
ASKED YOU TO VOTE SO I CAN GET
MY FULL CITIZENHIP BACK, I
HAVE TO HAVE A GENUINE INTENT
WITHIN MY HEART TO MAKE SURE I
MAKE YOU WHOLE IF I CAUSED YOU
ANY HARM.
>> ANCHOR: THE REALITY IS MANY
FORMER FELONS SIMPLY CAN‘T PAY
THOSE FEES AND RESTITUTION FOR
QUITE SOME TIME AND IN TURN
CAN‘T GET REGISTERED TO VOTE.
HIS GROUP HAS DONE SOMETHING
ABOUT THAT.
HE‘LL EXPLAIN COMING UP.
STY WITH US.
I’m LáDeia, and there’s more to me than HIV.
>> ANCHOR: WELCOME BACK. THIS MORNING‘S TOPIC IS AMENDMENT 4 WHICH FLORIDA
VOTERS APPROVE OVERWHELMINGLY
ONE YEAR ADW.
THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT‘S
PASSAGE ALLOWED MOST WITH
FELONY CONVICTIONS TO HAVE
VOTING RIGHTS AUTOMATICALLY
RESTORED ONCE THEY COMPLETED
THEIR SENTENCE.
BUT FLORIDA LAWMAKERS ADDED
WHAT SOME HAVE WITH THE POLL
TAX AND THEN ALL THE FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS AND BEFORE THEY CAN
REGISTER TO VOTE.
SINCE THEN IT‘S BEEN IN
LITIGATION LIMBO.
DES MOND MEAD, THE MAN BEHIND
AMENDMENT 4 SBACK TO GET THE
UPDATE ON WHERE EVERYTHING
STANDS.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK WE
GET AN UPDATE WITH THE BIG WIN
AND THE HEADLINE IS IT IS A BIG
WIN FOR THE EX-FELONS THAT NOW
CAN VOTE, AND THE NEXT THING IS
ACTUALLY THERE IS ANOTHER COURT
HEARING AND THERE IS ANOTHER
APPEAL AND WHAT IS THE LATEST
WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE THIS ALL
STANDS IN THE COURTS?
>> WHERE OTHERS SEE OBSTACLES,
WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND UNTIL THEY‘RE THE CLEAR
DEFWINATIVE RULING BY THE COURT.
AND CHANGING THE EXISTING LAW
ASK WE‘RE 100% COMMITTED TO
OPERATING UNDER THE COLOR OF
THE LAW AND THEN ENGAGING MANY
OF THE 1.4 MILLION.
WE BELIEVE ANY OF THE 1.4
MILLION THAT HAVE THE DESIRE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE ELECTIONS
SHOULD HAVE THAT SDPUENT WE‘RE
COMMITTED TO WALK AWAY EVERY
STEP OF THE WAY AND THAT MEANS
WE CAN GET THEM INTO THE COURTS
TO GET THE SENTENCE MODIFIED
AND THAT ALSO MEAN WEES HAVE
RAISED ALMOST A HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS TO START WRITING CHECKS
TO HELP PEOPLE PAY THESE FINES,
THESE FEES OFF SO THEY CAN BE
ABLE TO VOTE AGAIN.
>> THAT‘S WHAT I WANT TO ASK
AGAIN.
MANY CANNOT PAY THE FINES AND
FEES.
THEY CAN‘T DO IT RIGHT NOW WHEN
STRAIGHT OUT OF PRISON AND IT‘S
A PROCESS THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN
DO AND SO THAT FUND IS GOING TO
HELP THEM TO DO THAT.
>> AND LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS
THE COURTS TO GET INVOLVESED,
RIGHT?
NOW THE ONLY THING THAT A
PERSON HAS TO DO IS JUST
CONTACT MY ORGANIZATION AND
WE‘RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF
THAT PROCESS.
WE‘RE GOING TO WALK WITH THEM
EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
AND SO IF IT‘S HELPING THEM TO
DETERMINE WHAT THEY OWN, WE‘RE
WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.
IF IT IS HELPING TO GET THEM IN
FRONT OF THE JUDGE SO THE JUDGE
CAN MODIFY THE SENTENCE, WE‘RE
COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.
IF IT MEANS WALKING WITH THEM
TO THE COURT AND HANLHANDING
THAT CLERK A CHECK WE ARE
COMMITTED TO DOING THAT AS WELL.
>> AND YOU MENTION THE 1.4
MILLION AND DO YOU HAVE AN
UPDATED NUMBER ON PEOPLE WHO
ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE WHO ARE
FORMER FELONS TO THIS DATE
BECAUSE WE STILL, BUT BEFORE
THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,
THERE IS STILL ABOUT A YEAR OUT
SO WHAT‘S OUR NUMBER RIGHT NOW?
>> YES.
>> YES. >> HERE‘S SOME VERY INTERESTING NUMBERS.
WE ARE BASED ON STUDIES THAT
WERE CONDUCTED BY THE PROJECT
WHICH IS LIKE THE PLATINUM
STANDARD FOR THE FELLOW
DISENFRANCHISEMENT RESEARCH AND
WE BELIEVE OVER 840,000 OF THE
1.4 MILLION DID NOT HAVE THE
FINES AND FEES HELD.
RIGHT NOW THERE ARE THOSE WITH
FELONY CONVICTION THAT IS CAN
REGISTER TO VOTE.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT 560,000
DO, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE‘RE
WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.
WHAT WE‘VE SEEN AND I DO
BELIEVE THAT WITH THE BACK AND
FORTH WITH THE LITIGATION AND
IT REALLY CAUSED A LOT OF
CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITIES
BUT WE‘RE STILL ENCOURAGED
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT OVER
50,000 RETURNING CITIZENS
ACROSS THE STATE HAVE ALREADY
REGISTERED AND THAT NUMBER
COULD BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT
AND THE PROBLEM IS IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE HOW MANY
PEOPLE WHO REGISTERED OVER THE
PAST YEAR ARE RETURNING
CITIZENS BECAUSE THE FORMS DO
NOT ALLOW YOU TO DISTINGUISH
BETWEEN THE RETURNING CITIZEN
AND IT‘S COOL IN HERE.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
DOES IT MATTER WHICH COUNTY
SOMEONE LIVES IN?
ARE THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION
OFFICES HANDLE THANKSGIVING A
DIFFERENT WAY?
>> I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT.
EVEN WHEN I WAS AND I VISITED
ALMOST EVERY SUPERVISOR
ELECTIONS AND THEN I CAN TELL
YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM
AND WE SEE THERE WAS SOME
SUPPORT FOR THIS AND WE BELIEVE
THAT EVERY SUPERVISOR ELECTION
DEEP DOWN INSIDE, THEIR JOB IS
TO MAKE SURE YOU CREATE THE
MORE INCLUSIVE DEMOCRACY.
THEIR JOB IS TO GET AS MANY
ELIGIBLE AMERICAN CITIZENS
REGISTERED TO VOTE AND ACTUALLY
VOTING.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE‘RE
TRYING TO DO.
WE‘RE TRYING TO CREATE THE MORE
INCLUSIVE DEMOCRACY BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE IT CREATES A MORE
VIBRANT DEMOCRACY, RIGHT?
AND THAT STOOD FOR EVERYONE.
ANY ABLE-BODIED AMERICAN
CITIZEN THAT IS ELIGIBLE TO
REGISTER TO VOTE SHOULD BE
REGISTERED.
W WANT TO MAKE VOTING EXCITING
AGAIN.
PEOPLE THAT LOST THE RIGHT TO
VOTE AND FOUGHT TO GET IT BACK
THERE IS NO BETTER MESSAGE TO
SPEAK TO HOW IMPORTANT THE
RIGHT TO VOTE IS AND HOW WE
HONOR THAT BY GOING TO VOTE.
>> YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF
ORLANDO AND WE JUST HAD A
MAYORAL ELECTION A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO.
WERE YOU ABLE TO VOTE?
>> NO, I WASN‘T.
>> WHY?
>> I DID NOT LIVE IN THE
DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO
VOTE.
INITIALLY I DID, BUT I MOVED
AND THAT‘S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I WAS
THINKING ABOUT I WAS GETTING
READY TO VOTE FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN 30 YEARS, I TEARED UP.
EVERY TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT
I TEARED UP AND MADE ME THINK
OF THE THOUSANDS OF RETURNING
CITIZENS THOT ONLY IN THE STATE
OF ORLANDO BUT THE STATE THAT
IS READY FOR THAT DAY THAT THEY
CAN WALK IN AND CAST A BALLOT
AND THAT FEEL SUGGEST SOMETHING
THAT EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN
SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY.
>> AND JOHN LEGEND, YOU
MENTIONED HIM, THERE WERE A LOT
OF SUPPORTERS OF THIS AND
SPREAD I MESSAGE AND I THINK
YOU CAN POINT TO THIS THIS IS
ALREADY PASSED BY THE VOTERS
AND NOT TALK BEING MANY OTHER
AMENDMENTS RIGHT NOW.
THIS STILL HAS THE TRACTION AND
MOMENTUM.
>> YES TDOES.
>> DO YOU THINK PASSING THAT
AMENDMENT IN 2018 WILL HAVE
RAMIFICATIONS MOVING FORWARD?
>> OH, YES!
DEFINITELY!
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE STATE
IN WHICH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
ARE DECIDED BY 100,000 OR LESS,
WE JUST RECENTLY HAD THAT
GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION DECIDE
BIDE 30,000.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POTENTIALLY
ADDING 1.4 MILLION VOTERS TO
THE ROLLS THAT‘S A GAME CHANGER.
WE‘RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
ONE THING I NEED TO MAKE VERY
CLEAR.
WHEN WE PASSED AMENDMENT 4, WE
SAFELY ENSHRINED THE LANGUAGE
OF AMENDMENT 4 IN THE SDPUEGZ
THAT REMAINS ENTACT.
NOMATTER WHAT KIND OF
LEGISLATION GOES ON, AMENDMENT
4 REMAINS ENTACT AND IT CREATED
THE ALTERNATIVE ROUTE FOR ANY
AMERICAN CITIZEN TO BE ABLE
HAVE TOTE AGAIN AND NOT RELY ON
THE WHIMS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND
THAT REMAINS ENTACT UNTIL
SOMEONE CHANGES THE
CONSTITUTION AND NOW IT IS EVEN
MUCH HARD TORE AMEND THE
CONSTITUTION SO I‘M VERY
CONFIDENT THAT AMENDMENT 4
PURPOSE IS FOREVER INSHRINED IN
THE CONSTITUTION.
>> ANCHOR: WHAT IS YOUR GOAL
FROM RIGHT NOW TO THE LAST DATE
TO REGISTER IS THE FIRST WEEK
OF OCTOBERER IN 2020?
WHAT IS YOUR GOAL BETWEEN NOW
AND THEN?
>> HOW DO WE MAKE VOTING
EXCITING AGAIN?
YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY ARE THERE
1.4 MILLION POTENTIALLY NEW
VOTERS BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT
DON‘T VOTE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE WITH NOT RETURNING
CITIZENS AND OUR GOAL IS TO
REGISTER AS MANY OF THE 1.4
MILLION RETURNING CITIZENS AS
WE POSSIBLY CAN AND IN THE
PROCESS OF DOING THAT SPREAD A
MESSAGE, RIGHT?
THAT WOULD CREATE MORE EXCITING
AROUND VOTING AND LET FOLKS
KNOW IT IS OUR DUTY TO REALLY
MAKE SURE THAT WE‘RE SHOWING UP
AT ELECTIONS.
NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU‘RE ON
OR YOUR POLITICAL LEANINGS ARE,
THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, THAT ON
ELECTION DAY, THAT‘S LIKE THE
GREATEST EQUALIZING FORCE IN
THIS COUNTRY IS THE VOTING
BOOTH BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A
VOTE AND YOUR VOTE DO MATTER.
>> ANCHOR: AND MY THANKS TO DES
MOND MEAD FOR COMING BY THIS
MORNING.
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