What’s up guys, it’s Emile Ennis Jr. with Clevver News, and Taylor Swift is giving even
more insight into her relationship with Joe Alwyn, including their intimate songwriting
process and the one thing they’ve really bonded over.
While many couples bonded by doing puzzles and binge-watching Netflix during quarantine,
Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn apparently tapped into their innermost mournful minds to create
a few musical masterpieces together.
That said, there’s a pretty good reason why some of her new songs, like “exile”
and “evermore” hit you square in the feels…
During a rare interview about her relationship with Joe, Taylor spoke with Zane Lowe on Apple
Music.
Fun fact, Taylor was just named Apple Music’s ‘Songwriter of the Year.
She got candid about the songwriting process she shares with Joe.
We learned in the Disney+ Long Pond Studio Sessions that he did, in fact, write two songs
on folklore with her, under the pseudonym William Bowery, but the creative juices didn’t
stop flowing when it came to folklore’s sister album evermore.
Taylor gushed to Zane about the fact that they really bonded over “sad songs”, and
that it was their similar musical taste that made writing together so effortless.
“Well, Joe and I really love sad songs.
We’ve always bonded over music, so it was --” “Clearly!
You’ve written some of the saddest songs of your career together, what’s going on?!”
“We write the saddest songs… we just really love sad songs, what can I say?”
Taylor went on to talk about their new hobby, saying, “I say it was a surprise that we
started writing together, but in a way, it wasn't because we have always bonded over
music and had the same musical tastes.
He’s always the person who’s showing me songs by artists, and then they become my
favorite songs.”
She explained that Joe never really plays instruments thinking he’s writing a song,
and that it’s never really strategic when he starts playing the piano.
The two wrote three songs on evermore together, including the title track “evermore”,
“coney island,” and “champagne problems.”
Taylor then talked about the double meaning the song “evermore” has, saying QUOTE,
“One of the meanings is that I wrote this song and these lyrics when we were coming
up to the election, and I didn't know what was going to happen.
So I was almost preparing for the worst to happen, and trying to see some sort of glimmer
at the end of the tunnel.”
She also added that she went through a similar process of finding hope back in 2016, which
was around the time when Kim Kardashian leaked her entire phone conversation with Kanye West,
saying, “When I went through a bunch of bad stuff in 2016, July, November.
All those times were just sort of taking it day-by-day to get through, trying to find
a glimmer of hope, all of that.
So I was coming from both of those perspectives.”
She then admitted that she couldn’t wait to play “champagne problems” in concert,
and oddly enough, feels the most happy when singing sad songs, like the fan favorite “All
Too Well.”
“I'm so excited to one day be in front of a crowd when they all sing, 'She would have
made such a lovely bride.
What a shame she's f--ked in the head.’”
“I know it’s so sad, but it’s those songs like ‘All Too Well’.
Performing the song ‘All Too Well’ is one of the most joyful experiences I ever
go through when I perform live.”
And had it not been for quarantine, Taylor admitted that she and Joe may not have been
able to write all these incredible songs together, adding, “But I'm so glad that it did.
All I have to do is dream up some lyrics and come up with some gut-wrenching, heart-shattering
story to write with him.”
Although Taylor appears to be a little exhausted after putting out two albums in a five-month
span, she cleared up those ‘woodvale’ third album rumors during a recent interview
with Jimmy Kimmel, but there are PLENTY more exciting things to look forward to come next
year.
Taylor teased two bonus songs coming out soon, saying that she sees them as “a second ending,
which I’m excited about.”
She’s also still in the process of re-recording all her old masters, which she admitted there
were times when she’d record an evermore song like “happiness” and a song like
“You Belong With Me” in the same sitting.
Although the fairytale era of folklore and evermore may have come to an end, it’s safe
to assume we’ve still got a LOT of Taylor to look forward to!
To see what Taylor had to say about those ‘Woodvale’ album rumors, click right over
here to watch another Clevver video.
Then be sure to let me know all your thoughts on Taylor and Joe’s relationship down here
in the comments, and if their mutual love of sad songs came as a surprise to you.
I’m your host Emile Ennis Jr., bye guys.