HOUSE FOR JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA
HARRIS.
>> MORE THERE OF FORMER
PRESIDENT OBAMA LAYING IN TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP YESTERDAY IN
PENNSYLVANIA.
EARLIER IN THE WEEK, WE TOLD YOU
ABOUT A RULING BY THE SUPREME
COURT THAT WILL ALLOW MAIL-IN
BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED IN
PENNSYLVANIA IF RECEIVED WITHIN
THREE DAYS OF ELECTION DAY.
IT’S LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE THE
LAST LEGAL CHALLENGE SURROUNDING
THIS ELECTION IN THAT STATE.
JOINING US NOW IS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL OF PENNSYLVANIA, JOSH
SHAPIRO.
ALSO WITH US IS FORMER SENIOR
ADVISER FOR THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE, KURT BADELLA.
SO ATTORNEY GENERAL JOSH
SHAPIRO, WHAT LEGAL BATTLES DO
YOU PREDICT POST ELECTION AND AT
LEAST THE RULING THAT THE
SUPREME COURT HANDED DOWN HERE
GIVES SOME ORDER TO WHAT APPEARS
TO BE A VERY HIGH TURNOUT.
>> WELL, LOOK, MIKA, GOOD TO BE
WITH YOU.
IT’S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THIS
PRESIDENT WILL DO.
HE AND HIS ENABLERS AND HIS
LEGAL TEAM HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY
ERRATIC.
WHAT WE KNOW IS THEY HAVE
ATTACKED OUR VOTING LAWS HERE IN
PENNSYLVANIA.
THEY HAVE MADE IT -- TRIED TO
MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO
VOTE.
THEY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO INTIMIDATE VOTERS
PARTICULARLY IN OUR BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES.
THEY HAVE ALLEGED FRAUD WHERE
THERE ISN’T ANY, THEY HAVE SPUN
THE RIDICULOUS CONSPIRACY
THEORIES AND AS A RESULT, THEY
HAVE GONE 0 FOR 3 HERE AND WE
BEAT THEM AT EVERY TURN.
AND I CAN ASSURE THE PEOPLE OF
PENNSYLVANIA AS I HAVE MANY
TIMES AND CERTAINLY THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WE’RE PREPARED FOR
WHATEVER COMES NEXT.
WHETHER IT’S ACTIONS ON ELECTION
DAY OR ACTIONS TO DISCARD OR
DISMISS BALLOTS ONCE THE POLLS
CLOSE.
WE’LL BE READY.
THE PRESIDENT LOVES TO TWEET AND
MAKE UP A LOT OF NONSENSE, BUT
IN A COURT OF LAW WE DEAL WITH
FACTS AND EVIDENCE AND SO FAR
THE PRESIDENT HAS ZERO TO BACK
UP HIS RIDICULOUS CLAIMS AND
THAT’S WHY HE KEEPS LOSING IN
COURT.
>> MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL, IT’S
WILLIE GEIST.
AS YOU SAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
TRYING TO MUDDY THE WATERS,
TALKING ABOUT BALLOTS BEING
FOUND IN CREEKS, ALL OF THEM
HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED.
BEING STOLEN.
HOW MUCH VOTER FRAUD DO YOU SEE
AND HOW MUCH SHOULD YOU EXPECT
WITH MAIL-IN BALLOTS, FOR
EXAMPLE?
>> WELL, LOOK, TRUMP’S OWN FBI
HAS TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE’S A
MINUSCULE AMOUNT OF VOTER FRAUD
AND LISTEN, I PROSECUTED PEOPLE
FOR VOTER FRAUD BUT NOT THE KIND
OF STUFF THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
ALLEGING
ALLEGING.
THE BASIS FOR ONE OF THE FEDERAL
SUITS HE FILED OUR VOTE BY MAIL
STATUTE IS RIFE WITH FRAUD AND I
SAID, HEY, MR. PRESIDENT, PUT UP
OR SHUT UP.
DEMONSTRATE THE FRAUD AND THE
JUDGE SAID, YOU DON’T HAVE TO
DEMONSTRATE ACTUAL FRAUD, JUST
THE POSSIBILITY THAT FRAUD COULD
EXIST.
IT’S A RELATIVELY LOW
EVIDENTIARY BAR AND HE COULD
DON’T THAT AND THE JUDGE
DISMISSED THE CASE.
HE’S SPUN THE TALES HE HAS NEVER
BEEN ABLE TO BACK UP IN COURT,
BUT HERE’S THE DEAL.
HE’S DOING IT FOR A SPECIFIC
REASON.
YOU USED THE WORD MUDDY THE
WATER.
I THINK HE’S TRYING TO CREATE
CHAOS BECAUSE WHAT HE’S TRYING
DO, WILLIE, MAKE THE VOTERS HERE
FEEL POWERLESS, TO MAKE THEM
FEEL LIKE THEY WON’T CONTROL THE
OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION.
BUT HERE’S THE DEAL.
IN OUR DEMOCRACY AND HERE IN
PENNSYLVANIA, THE PEOPLE ARE THE
ONES WITH THE POWER.
NOT DONALD TRUMP.
AND THE PEOPLE WILL BE THE ONES
TO DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THIS
ELECTION.
BASED UPON WHAT I SEE, I DON’T
THINK THEY’RE GOING TO CHOOSE
DONALD TRUMP WHICH IS WHY
THEY’RE WORKING OVERTIME TO DO
EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO MAKE
SURE NOT ALL ELIGIBLE VOTES WILL
BE COUNTED AND WHY WE’RE WORKING
EXTRA OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE HE’S
DEFEATED IN COURT AND WE’LL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT SO LONG AS
HE BRINGS THE RIDICULOUS
LAWSUITS.
>> AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE EARLY
RETURNS ON ELECTION NIGHT MAY
NOT BE BELIEVABLE FROM WHERE
HE’S SITTING.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WILL SEE A
NUMBER, PERHAPS THAT SHOWS JOE
BIDEN WITH AN ADVANTAGE IN THE
STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA, BUT DON’T
BELIEVE THAT, AND IF THE COUNT
GOES ON INTO SUBSEQUENT DAYS
THAT GIVES HIM MORE AIR AND MORE
SPACE TO MAKE THAT CLAIM THAT
SOMETHING FISHY IS GOING ON.
SO WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HELP
OUR VIEWERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT
ON ELECTION NIGHT.
SO WHAT SHOULD IN THE STATE OF
VIEWER, WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT TO
SEE IN PENNSYLVANIA ON ELECTION
NIGHT?
>> WELL, SO WE’RE GOING TO COUNT
BALLOTS AS FOLLOWS.
WE ARE GOING TO COUNT THE
PRECINCTS AND THE PRECINCT
TOTALS THAT IS THE PEOPLE THAT
VOTE ON ELECTION DAY SEEM TO BE
RUNNING AT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 55%
OF THE OVERALL ELECTORATE.
THEN ABOUT 45% OF THE OVERALL
ELECTORATE IS GOING TO VOTE BY
MAIL AND THOSE BALLOTS WILL TAKE
A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO BE
COUNTED.
BUT UNDERSTAND THAT VOTERS WHO
ARE VOTING BY MAIL ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS.
SEEMINGLY IT’S RUNNING AGO 70%
OF THOSE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS
ARE DEMOCRATS.
YOU’RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO ON
OUR DEPARTMENT OF STATE WEBSITE,
YOU’LL BE ABLE TO CLICK ON A
PARTICULAR COUNTY AND YOU’LL BE
ABLE TO SEE NOT JUST THE
PRECINCT TOTALS, BUT THE AMOUNT
OF OUTSTANDING MAIL-IN BALLOTS
AND YOU’LL KNOW THE PARTY
BREAKDOWN OF THOSE BALLOTS AS
WELL.
SO YOU’LL HAVE A GREAT GOOD
SENSE OF THE DIRECTION THINGS
ARE GOING.
AND WE WANT TO CAUTION PEOPLE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THE PRECINCT
TOTALS ARE JUST ROUGHLY HALF OF
THE PICTURE.
AND DONALD TRUMP WE KNOW IS
GOING TO BE DOING EVERYTHING IN
HIS POWER TO SORT OF MUDDY THE
COMMUNICATIONS AND PROBABLY EVEN
DO SOMETHING LEGALLY TO STOP THE
COUNT.
WHAT I NEED YOU ALL TO KNOW IS
WE’RE PREPARED FOR THAT.
AND WE’LL BE READY TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERY SINGLE LEGAL ELIGIBLE
VOTE IS COUNTED AND THE
PRESIDENT SORT OF PUT OUT A LOT
OF NOISE LEADING UP TO ELECTION
DAY AND I EXPECT A LOT OF NOISE
AFTER ELECTION DAY, BUT WHAT I’M
SEEING INCREASINGLY IS THAT THIS
PRESIDENT IS SORT OF SHRINKING
IN A LOT OF WAYS.
BECAUSE THE NOISE YOU’RE HEARING
MORE AND MORE IN PENNSYLVANIA IS
THE NOISE OF THE VOTERS
REQUESTING THEIR MAIL-IN
BALLOTS, SENDING THEM BACK.
AND FIRING UP THE REST OF THE
PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DROWNING OUT
THE PRESIDENT AND THE VOTERS ARE
GETTING A SAY.
AFTER ALL, THAT’S THE WAY IT