hey Lindsay how's it going it's going great how are you Aubrey how's everything out in Arizona
excellent it's hot right now but we're managing I have a question for you I don't know this about
you we've never talked about this we're talking about Justice to get today we had a great question
from a listener and I'm wondering is there have you ever felt like you didn't receive Justice
not just that something was unfair but like an authority figure or law enforcement treated you
unjustly uh to be honest I'm lucky to say that I can't think of anything like nothing stands out
in my mind and I'm very lucky because I know that a lot of people can't say that um right
right that's a definitely come we recognize that's coming from a place of privilege if we've never
been treated unjustly by authorities because a lot of people do have those experiences for
whatever reason right it might be based on race or language there's all kinds of possibilities
I did have an experience I was given a trespassing violation as a college student and I did felt it
did not have to do with my race I don't think but it did have to do with my age like because
we were young hanging out in a park and there had been some kind of story about that yes I've told
the story before and so I was given a mystery and it felt very unjust it was like 10 p.m in a
park and we were doing nothing we were just like sitting there talking and we were seeing these
trespassing violations and it and we really said we're not doing anything there's and too bad you
get this fine and it felt very unjust wow yeah I mean that's tough right I I imagine that's a very
angry feeling that could become an angry feeling right yes feel angry I think the thing that I can
think of as an example I know a lot of times in small country side towns you have cops that have a
quota for speeding tickets like the town needs to make a certain amount of money on speeding ticket
violations and so they will be you know right past the sign where the speed limit went from
60 to 35 and they'll just get you right it hasn't happened I've gotten some of those yeah I've had
that happen to her in like in a school zone where they get you where you can't like I've turned a
corner so I haven't the the sign saying it went down to 15 was like back there and I wouldn't have
been able to see it I gotta find there once yeah it happens and you're right it feels it doesn't
feel good we have this righteous indignation we call it where we feel like we're justified in
being extremely angry and we feel like we've been treated unfairly and it's not a good emotion to
have yeah righteous indignation I want to say that again just highlight that as a bonus word
big expression right that'll for sure be in the app right that is a big one that will be in the
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that both IOS and Android yes all right so Aubry we have a question from an amazing listener today
shall I go ahead and read it yes please all right thanks for the amazing podcast they're really
interesting and helpful I learned some useful Expressions to use beyond the business context but
as a non-native speaker I always find it ambiguous when people use some Expressions that are not that
straightforward for example that makes the two of us or justice has no arms can you share some
practical examples so I can understand and use them in daily life thanks Ben from China now
if you guys also listen to our business English podcast this might sound familiar right Aubry yes
we answered the first half of Ben's question on the business English podcast episode 121 it was
called excited for today's episode that makes two of us because that phrase we use so often in biz
business English but it's definitely relevant whether you work in English or not so be sure
you're following that podcast so you don't miss any episodes yeah but today's is going to be a
completely different answer to answer the second one right justice has no arm so where do we start
today yeah we had to save this for a separate episode because it's packed here there's so
many phrases with the word justice and I really did a deep dive on Google and could not find this
anywhere justice has no arms but I found some very similar phrases have you heard that one Justice I
thought this would be another episode where you learned something from you Aubry but it's not
yeah I agree I I don't know this expression so no so there's a chance the student may have misheard
or someone may have misspoken when they heard it that that is not commonly used in English but
there are a few Expressions that are for example the long arm of Justice we're going to share three
today that we do use in English that have the word justice kind of describe them share some examples
so that you can use them and understand them when you hear them yeah I mean the one that came came
to mind that I've I think I've heard presidency I think I've heard President Obama use this it's uh
the Arc of history is long but it bends towards Justice right that's another that's a good one
um and so that's one that comes up but let's see what we've got for today that's going to
be very related to our third one here justice has no timetable so yeah we'll go into all of
these they're all it's interesting because social justice isn't a lot on a lot of people's minds
um the Barbie movie really covered a lot about this you know it's there there's a lot that goes
into change social change and creating Justice for everyone equality social social equality and
social justice so yeah let's dive into this first phrase here here we go so the first one guys is
the long arm of justice so maybe that was similar to what the person heard maybe this is what our
listener Ben could be yeah it is that's what I imagined this means just the ability of law
enforcement or police to find catch and punish people who commit crimes Okay so for example the
long the long arm of the law finally caught up with her 10 years later so does this just mean
eventually everyone gets caught is that kind of what it's saying yes I sometimes it might take a
while but eventually there's a punishment right so this was the long arm of the law I I should have
said Justice we say both we say the long arm of the law just meaning like eventually people will
receive some type of punishment legal ramification when they break the law the long arm of Justice
often means a little bit different even it's sort of more like even if the law doesn't ever
punish you the long arm of Justice will meaning there will be some kind of repercussion for you
in a changed nature in your life being worse if you are you know doing things that are not on
the up and up well yeah I mean this is something that we study in my Buddhist practice right this
is karma karma 101 that's actually what it is karma or comma as they say in Buddhism that's
the same thing right it's eventually going to Ripple out and create some kind of effect
um every action has a reaction right it's just action out in the world so yes and we use that
phrasal verb to say something will catch up to you right let's say someone steals and they have
no problem they don't feel guilty they don't think they'll ever get caught you might say
it's gonna catch up to you and that might not mean that eventually the authorities are going
to catch you and you're going to be fined or throwing a gel it might just mean you are going
to become a dishonest person and that will have its own ramifications oh yeah for sure and also
it you know living with that most people would have experience some kind of guilt right that's
the thing right you might be rocked with guilt people might no longer trust you think of all of
the consequences a lot of things for sure okay so that's the first one what is the second one Aubry
yeah so this one is justice has no color and this is said to indicate that the law applies equally
to everyone regardless of race right so this is used a lot when people are actually talking
about that it's not accurate but should be right because some people believe that systemic racism
exists in the legal system at least in the United States when we look at the statistics this seems
to definitely be the case right so you'll hear this with social activism people might say justice
should have no color oh yeah oh my gosh the only thing I can think about when I think about this
is the Central Park five you remember the boys I think a number of them if not all of them went
to jail for quite a long time I just watched the movie till about Emmett Till I know you've seen
that there's a movie unfortunately innumerable stories right when you see a list of of all of
the deaths that have you know from either police brutality or otherwise it's that's what's really
mind-boggling is you think of the 10 or 12 maybe 15 you know of that you could name and then you
see the list of hundreds that a lot of people don't know about yeah but I think I heard more
recently one of the members of the Central Park five is now running for local office in New York
wow so that's kind of cool um yeah yeah that would be exciting yeah so yeah there are definitely a
lot of stories you can look at we had seen one uh an article called the color of Justice in the New
Yorker where it was talking about um a police offer that shot and killed Michael Brown an 18
year old unarmed black man in Ferguson Missouri and then it just had this statistic in that Arc
article that said that in a Pew research poll it's just so that 80 percent of African-Americans
believe that this Ferguson case raised important racial issues while only 37 percent of whites
felt the same so that's where you kind of see the difference in the awareness of the issue
or how much people believe that it actually is an issue that sometimes is where we really need
the social change in just being aware of the statistics and the issue and being open-minded
to it yeah for sure for sure I'm not trying to hide from the problem yeah I mean we did have a
nice kind of societal Awakening to some extent in 2020 with Ferguson um and with different marches
and things going on which was really cool because people were at home and sort of noticing what was
actually going on for once so I feel like there's been a little bit more awareness in the last few
years than maybe 10 years before but we still have a lot of work to do don't we Aubry absolutely okay
Aubry what is next we have a third one yes this one is justice has no timetable so this is what
you were talking about that quote right that just means it takes time to build social justice but it
I believe this is sort of implied that it's always leading toward it right just sort of naturally
um that there there might not be a timetable it's going to take time it's going to be slow
but it will come eventually yes and Stacy Abrams is a well-known now is she governor of Georgia
she's the former Georgia state representative and a current voting rights activist yes and
she said in a speech justice has no timetable it just has a destination perfect yeah yeah she is
definitely an exciting political figure kind of on the rise so I'm looking forward to see
what she you know seeing what happens with her career and can you know is she going to get in
there and make a difference yes let's hope right yes Justice campaigns I think understand that
progress isn't easy it's not quick we interviewed Jamila ball on the English podcast a little while
ago episode 1471 it was called how you can help create language Justice with General ball and this
was really fascinating because we don't always think about social justice with language and if
you know our our articles available in a person's first language so that they can have all of the
information that's available to someone who speaks English or speaks one of the more common languages
that news is translated into yeah I love it and before we do our takeaway today you know I've been
meaning to for us to do an episode here on the important Supreme Court Justice decisions that
just came down in June big Supreme Court decisions come down at the end of June every year and now
we're in September for this shows we've missed a little bit of a window but we could bring it in
because it's never too late to talk about it right now in the Supreme Court with the justices with
um the public losing respect and Trust for the justices and the Supreme Court itself
and I think we're in a little bit of a crisis right now where people you know not completely
trusting what the justices are doing in their personal lives and so we can bring that in we
can also talk about the cases that were just decision uh decided on affirmative action
um there was student loan stuff and then there was what was the other one oh abortion yeah this
would be really interesting to talk about I just recently was listening to a podcast about a recent
Supreme Court decision about it was a company who didn't want to do some kind of service for
um an lgbtq couple and then that was it yeah that was it that when the Supreme Court asked them like
have you actually been asked to do this service and had to say no they said yes and then it was
proven that they didn't that didn't happen it was like a fake email like a fake account and
so yeah people are sort of losing trust because the Supreme Court never didn't really look into
it well enough and didn't insist on the evidence and so it's sort of feeling like oh are we really
do we have the checks and balances to make sure that this body of justices is is doing what the
general public would like to have happen with their laws exactly it's supposed to
be an independent body of government right it's not supposed to be influenced by any other body
of government but particularly with that case I think we're going to come back to it guys
hit following we should yes if you want to hear more about this please be sure to follow um good
stuff but we should wrap it up for today Aubry that was just a teaser of what we could get into
this fall uh where should we leave our listeners today yeah well you can definitely see how deep
and meaningful connections and conversations come up when you're discussing Justice right there are
several phrases where we use Justice you can speak about this with friends close you know
family but you definitely want to be open-minded to hear what others think we recognize that you
out there listening may have very different political views from ours these are charged
issues where people will have different opinions but you need the vocabulary and the skills to be
able to have those conversations respectfully where you can listen to both sides share your
opinion and that's a difficult thing to do in a second language right and then you can extend
into your own court system in your own country guys have conversations do people trust decisions
of your Supreme Court in your country uh you know what is how does that extend into politics
for you uh love the topic Aubry big topic but I think our listeners are ready for it right this
is a good job that we can talk about and become better people and more informed yes absolutely
you are at the language level where you can get involved in the fight for social justice in your
first language and as well as in English so yeah don't shy away from it have those conversations
to help build awareness in yourself and in others I love it good stuff Aubry I'll see you on here
very soon you have a good rest of your day you too thanks Lindsay see ya bye foreign [Music]