BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. I WANT TO BRING MY PANEL IN.
EDDIE GLAUDE.
EDDIE GLAUDE. AND EVAN SIEGFRIED, REPUBLICAN
STRATEGIST.
STRATEGIST. EVAN, TO YOU FIRST, IS
IMMIGRATION A SMART MOVE?
IS THIS AN ISSUE THAT COULD PUSH
THINGS OVER THE TOP FOR
REPUBLICANS?
REPUBLICANS? A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE THOUGHT THE
PRESIDENT’S BOTCHED ZERO
TOLERANCE POLICY WAS GOING TO BE
A BIG PAIN.
>> I DIDN’T THINK THE SEPARATION
OF MIGRANT FAMILIES WAS GOING TO
BE A BIG ISSUE FOR THE GENERAL
ELECTORATE.
ELECTORATE. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE
MUCH MORE TOWARD HEALTH CARE AND
WHETHER OR NOT THE ECONOMY WAS
LEAVING PEOPLE BEHIND.
FOR THE IMMIGRANTS, IMMIGRATION
IS THE STEROID SHOT IN THE ARM
THAT REALLY BOLSTERS US.
THE KAVANAUGH EFFECT WAS A SUGAR
HIGH, IT ENDED VERY QUICKLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
REPUBLICANS DO.
REPUBLICANS DO. THREAT OF THE OTHER, THE
INVADER.
INVADER. THIS MIGRANT CARAVAN, OVER 1,000
MILES AWAY AND NOT A THREAT AT
THIS POINT IN TIME, IT REALLY
DOES RESONATE.
DOES RESONATE. I MEAN, WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT
TRUMP TALKING ABOUT THE MIGRANT
CARAVAN, IF WE EVER HEAR FROM A
DEFENSE CONTRACT FOR THE DEFENSE
DEPARTMENT THAT AN ASTEROID IS
COMING AND WILL HIT US IN 100
YEARS, TRUMP WILL CLEARLY BE ALL
OVER IT WITH SPACE FORCE.
>> OKAY, YOU’RE BEING GLIB AND
CUTE.
CUTE. THE ISSUE, ELDYDDIE, DOES THIS
WORK, RIGHT.
WORK, RIGHT. SO THE PRESIDENT IS GOING WITH
ENDING BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP.
WHICH HE MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DO.
BUT THIS THREAT, THIS IDEA, THIS
POSITION, DOES IT WORK FOR
VOTERS?
VOTERS? >> PROBABLY.
>> PROBABLY. YOU KNOW, STEPHANIE, IT MIGHT --
IT SPEAKS VOLUMES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW --
>> HE DOESN’T CARE WHAT IT
SPEAKS ABOUT.
SPEAKS ABOUT. U.S.
U.S. THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT WORK?
>> IT MEANS SOMETHING.
CITIZENSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY HAS
ALWAYS BEEN TIED TO FREE WHITE
PERSON SINCE THE NATURALIZATION
ACT OF 1790.
WHEN HE INVOKES THIS QUESTION OF
IMMIGRATION AND YOU SAY IT PLAYS
WITH THE REPUBLICAN BASE, IT’S
ALL ABOUT A CERTAIN CONCEPTION
OF WHITENESS.
OF WHITENESS. THIS IDEA OF WHITENESS THAT HAS
LED TO 11 PEOPLE BEING DEAD IN
PITTSBURGH --
PITTSBURGH -- >> TWO PEOPLE IN A KROGER
GROCERY STORE --
>> SO HERE WE ARE AFTER THE
CARNAGE.
CARNAGE. AND THIS MAN, THIS MORAL MONSTER
IS PLAYING TO THOSE BASE
INSTINCTS.
INSTINCTS. I DON’T WANT TO PLAY THE
POLITICAL GAME WITH REGARDS TO
THAT.
THAT. THE 14th AMENDMENT IS PART OF
THE RECONSTRUCTION AMENDMENTS.
HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE
ABOLISHMENT OF SLAVERY.
WITH MAKING US HAVE CITIZENSHIP.
WITH PART OF THE SECOND FOUNDING
OF THE COUNTRY.
GO READ THE SECOND INAUGURAL.
GO LOOK AT WHAT LINCOLN SAID.
IT SHOWS THE COUNTRY IS
PROFOUNDLY RACIST.
PROFOUNDLY RACIST. >> IF THE PRESIDENT GOES EVEN
FURTHER THIS IS WHO HE IS.
I WANT TO SHARE WHAT HE SAID TO
BILL O’REILLY IN 2015.
>> WHAT HAPPENS, THEY’RE IN
MEXICO, THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A
BABY, BE HERE FOR A COUPLE DAYS,
THEY’LL HAVE THE BABY.
NO, IT’S GOING TO HAVE TO BE
TESTED, BUT THEY SAY IT’S NOT
GOING TO HOLD UP IN COURT.
REGARDLESS, WHEN PEOPLE ARE
ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY, THEY
HAVE TO GO.
>> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
TO DEPORT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP NOW AND THE
FEDERAL COURTS WILL NEVER ALLOW
MASS DEPORTATIONS WITHOUT DUE
PROCESS FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE.
>> I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE
AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP AND IF YOU
SPEAK TO SOME VERY, VERY GOOD
LAWYERS THAT I KNOW, SOME WOULD
DISAGREE, BUT MANY OF THEM
AGREE, YOU’LL FIND THEY DO NOT
HAVE AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.
WE HAVE TO START A PROCESS WHERE
WE TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.
>> OKAY SO EVAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE
HE IS SUGGESTING DEPORTING
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN
GRANTED BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP.
IS THIS NONSENSE OR IS THIS THE
EXACT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS THE
ARCHY BUNKERS OF THE WORLD ARE
SPOUTING IT WHEREVER THEY ARE OR
AT MAR-A-LAGO --
>> CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING ON
THE FAR RIGHT, MORALLY
REPREHENSIBLE.
REPREHENSIBLE. THE 14th AMENDMENT IS CLEAR.
ALL PERSONS WHO ARE IN THE UTD
UNITED STATES ARE SUBJECT TO THE
LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS FOR
FOREIGN DIPLOMATS, THAT’S IT.
I THINK IT’S REALLY DISGUSTING
WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING.
HE’S USING THIS AS A POLITICAL
WEDGE.
WEDGE. IN THE 2016 CAM PAN,PAIGN, HE SA
LIKES THAT PEOPLE FEAR HIM AND
HE BRINGS OUT RAGE IN PEOPLE.
WHENEVER DONALD TRUMP GETS UPSET
BECAUSE HE SAID, OWE, I DID THE
THING WHERE I TRIED TO HEAL THE
NATION.
NATION. YES, YOU PUT OUT A TWEET.
BUT YOU DON’T KEEP HAMMERING
HOME HOW ANTI-SEMITISM IS WRONG
OR DEMONIZING PEOPLE OF COLOR IS
BEING WRONG.
BEING WRONG. WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS GOING IS
WRONG.
WRONG. AND FURTHER, IT’S LEGALLY WRONG.
HIS OWN APPOINTMENT TO THE
FIFTH -- I BELIEVE IT WAS THE
NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS,
WROTE IN "THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL" THAT BIRTH RIGHT
CITIZENSHIP IS ENSHRINED IN THE
CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION. AND THERE’S CASE LAW THAT THE
SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED ON.
THE PERSON IN 1898, WHERE THE
SUPREME COURT REAFFIRMED IT.
SO I DON’T KNOW WHAT LAWYERS
DONALD TRUMP IS TALKING TO BUT
THE ONE HE’S APPOINTING TO ARE
SAYING BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP
EXISTS.
EXISTS. >> I DON’T KNOW IF HE KNEW THAT
MANY FEDERAL SOCIETY GUYS BACK
WHEN HE WAS RUNNING.
THAT WAS ARE MO OF HISMORE OF HI
COHEN DAYS.
COHEN DAYS. EDDIE WHAT BLOWS MY MIND IS,
EVAN SAYING THIS IS THE FAR
RIGHT.
RIGHT. IT’S NOT EVEN ONLY JUST THE FAR
RIGHT.
RIGHT. FOX NEWS IS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S
MOTHER SHIP.
MOTHER SHIP. EVEN SHEP SMITH YESTERDAY, WHO
IS A UNICORN THERE, KNOCKED IT
DOWN.
DOWN. >> TOMORROW, THE MIGRANTS,
ACCORDING TO FOX NEWS REPORTING
ARE MORE THAN TWO MONTHS AWAY,
IF ANY OF THEM ACTUALLY COME
HERE.
HERE. BUT TOMORROW IS ONE WEEK BEFORE
THE MIDTERM ELECTION.
WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF THIS IS
ABOUT.
ABOUT. THERE IS NO INVASION.
NO ONE’S COMING TO GET YOU.
THERE’S NOTHING AT ALL TO WORRY
ABOUT.
ABOUT. WHEN THEY DID THIS TO US, GOT US
ALL RILED UP IN APRIL, REMEMBER,
THE RESULT WAS 14 ARRESTS.
WE’RE AMERICA.
WE’RE AMERICA. WE CAN HANDLE IT.
>> WE’RE AMERICA.
WE CAN HANDLE IT.
THAT SHEP SMITH, VOICE OF
HONESTY AND LIGHT AMID DARKNESS.
I GET THAT THIS IS A POLITICAL
STRATEGY, BUT THERE ARE
REAL-LIFE CONSEQUENCES HERE.
>> YES, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE IS A
NATIONALIZED CITIZEN FROM
JAMAICA.
JAMAICA. FAMILY MEMBERS ALL THROUGHOUT
FLORIDA.
FLORIDA. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE GOT SCARED.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR ME?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? BECAUSE SHE WASN’T -- SHE’S A
NATURALIZED CITIZEN.
NATURALIZED CITIZEN. GOING BACK TO THE LAST SEGMENT.
SO I’M THINKING ABOUT THE
REAL-LIFE CONSEQUENCES.
REAL-LIFE CONSEQUENCES. WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE
CHILDREN HERE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE
COME TO THE UNITED STATES FOR A
BETTER LIFE MATERIALLY.
FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
I’M THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS
FOR CHILDREN GROWING UP, WHITE
CHILDREN, GROWING UP, HEARING
OTHER HUMAN BEINGS DESCRIBED AS
INFESTATION S
INFESTATION S INFESTATIONS.
INFESTATIONS. CARRIERS OF DISEASE.
WHAT WILL IT DO TO THEIR SOULS?
YOU SEE?
YOU SEE? THERE’S THE QUESTION OF THE
POLITICS OF THE MATTER.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THE
COUNTRY, YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING
WITH -- YOU WEAR A BUTTON THAT
SAYS "LOVE."
SAYS "LOVE." YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
DECENCY.
DECENCY. THIS IS INDECENT.
IT IS BORDERLINE -- NOT
BORDERLINE, IT IS EVIL.
IT SETS THE STAGE FOR
UNIMAGINABLE CRUELTY.
UNIMAGINABLE CRUELTY. IF WE TALK ABOUT THIS ONLY IN
TERMS OF THE HORSE RACE, THEN HE
HAS DONE WHAT HE HAS WANTED TO
DO.
DO. >> ARE REPUBLICANS COMFORTABLE
WITH THIS STRATEGY?
WE’VE BEEN TALKING FOR WEEKS
ABOUT HOW LATINOS HAVEN’T BEEN
MOTIVATED TO VOTE.
THIS MIGHT MOTIVATE THEM.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> IF REPUBLICANS ARE
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
IT’S THE MORAL ROT THAT HAS
INFESTED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
BECAUSE OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
DONE.
DONE. IT’S NOT JUST THE FEAR OF
IMMIGRANTS, IT’S ALSO LOOK AT
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TREE OF
LIFE SYNAGOGUE.
LIFE SYNAGOGUE. IN 2016, I STARTED TO SEE A
GREAT DEAL OF ANTI-SEMITIC DEATH
THREATS.
THREATS. I NEVER THOUGHT THIS COUNTRY
WOULD BE CAPABLE OF THAT.
GROWING U INGING UP, MY DAD SAID
THE ONE THING YOU HAVE TO DO, AS
A KID, ALWAYS HAVE A CURRENT
PASSPORT.
PASSPORT. I SAID WHY?
HE SAID, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN WE
HAVE TO FLEE BECAUSE WE’RE JEWS.
I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND IT UNTIL
DONALD TRUMP ENTERED THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
POLITICAL SPECTRUM. >> YOU’VE GOT A WEEK BEFORE THE
MIDTERMS, AN ANTI-SEMITIC ATTACK
JUST HAPPENED.
JUST HAPPENED. WE KNOW THERE’S A DOMESTIC
TERRORIST WHO’S SENDING PIPE
BOMBS TO FORM EARL PRESIDENTS.
THAT’S THE KIND OF FEAR THAT
AMERICANS ARE ACTUALLY
EXPERIENCING.
EXPERIENCING. >> BUT REMEMBER ACCORDING TO
DONALD TRUMP, IT’S YOUR FAULT
BECAUSE YOU’RE THE ENEMY OF THE
PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU’RE THE NEWS
AND YOU REPORT FACTS AND HE
DOESN’T LIKE IT.
>> WE’RE NOT JUST A WHITE
NATION --
NATION -- >> THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING --
>> I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS
WORKINGS.
WORKINGS. >> THIS IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
GET AT.
GET AT. AT THE HEART OF OUR POLITICS,
SINCE I’VE BEEN AWARE OF
POLITICS, SINCE RONALD REAGAN,
HAS BEEN THE IDEA THAT THIS
NATION IS WHITE.
IN THE VEIN OF OLD EUROPE.
AND THAT EVEN AS IT EMBRACES
IT’S IMMIGRANTS THAT FUNDAMENTAL
NOTION HAS TO BE HELD INTACT.
DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SUCH THAT THE
BROWNING OF AMERICA ISN’T IN
SOME DISTANCE FUTURE.
IT IS HAPPENING.
IT IS ALREADY IMPACTING OUR
POLITICS IN CONCRETE WAYS.
GEORGIA IS NOT JUST SIMPLY
PURPLE.
PURPLE. I MEAN, IT’S NOT RED.
IT’S NOT JUST SIMPLY PURPLE.
TEXAS, ALL RIGHT, FLORIDA, THE
NATION IS CHANGING.
AND IT FEELS LIKE TECTONIC
PLATES SHIFTING.
PLATES SHIFTING. AND FOLK DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND WHENEVER WE’VE --
>> VOTE.
>> VOTE. VOTE IS WHAT YOU DO.
>> CULL REALLY THETURALLY, VIOLE
ALWAYS ATTENDED THEM.
PART OF WHAT’S HAPPENING IS PART
OF AMERICA IS ON ITS DEATH BED
AND SOME PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO
GIVE IT UP.
>> IF A CERTAIN PART OF AMERICA
IS ON ITS DEATH BED BECAUSE OF
CULTURAL ISSUES, YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT DEATH BED REQUIRES, HEALTH
CARE, AND THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO
VOTE ON HEALTH CARE, AND IF THEY
HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION,
IF THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON
MEDICAID, THEY SHOULDN’T WANT
REFORM.
REFORM. >> THAT’S WHY AMY McGRATH IS
DOING SO WELL IN THE KENTUCKY
SIXTH.
SIXTH. BECAUSE SHE’S RUNNING ON TRUMP
CARE.
CARE. YOU HAVE TRUMP REPUBLICAN WHO
SAID I VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP
BUT I DON’T LIKE WHAT HE’S DOING
ON HEALTH CARE.
I’M GOING TO VOTE FOR AMY
McGRATH BECAUSE SHE’S GOING TO
PROTECT ME.
PROTECT ME. >> EVERY PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY
WANTS TO BE PHYSICALLY SAFE,
FINANCIALLY SECURE, SOCIALLY
FREE.
FREE. YOU COULD TAKE THIS
FEARMONGERING AND PUT IT ASIDE,
IT IS A SHOW.
AND THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY GOING TO THE -- SENDING
THE TROOPS DOWN TO THE BORDER
FOR A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY.