really politics and david pacman in on the phone
aaron while he needs no introduction i'll mention he's the author of only the
super-rich
save us mister nader welcome back to the show thank you very much stirred what
it's a pleasure to speak with you again last time we talked wheat wheat was
about your previous book this
nineteen traditions in this book i
to tell you this one's a lot longer i don't know if it's five or six times as
long and i enjoyed it allot more and
that seventeen billionaires including warren buffett joined forces
a the world's
what when you see
save us
savers from the growing frustration of power in this country
fewer and fewer hands corporate power
taking control of our government now
corporate occupied territory in washington d_c_
and basically denying the american people to just search for their labors
for their rights to universal health insurance at the same way it's clean
politics
could even law enforcement against corporate crime fraud and abuse
and at the move forward on
life-sustaining technologies such as uh... renewable energy
and uh... of the ways of
the before meeting with the
natural requirements of the planet earth
these are long overdue people uh...
uh... by and large want this kind of country
too involved in that direction
but there's no money
behind the social justice movements compared to the trillions of dollars in
industrial commercial power wall street
and their political
huh
allies in washington huge smack
and wealth but with a view do consensus are
listeners in are more conservative parts of the country they listen to our show
jury is
so on and so forth say it sounds
me like ralph nader is advocating some kind of socialism or communism but in
reading the book that's not actually what you're talking about it
overwrought
that those are forms of concentration of power as well and today we have
corporate socialism which is the merger and domination
folklore of government with a giant dismissed that's what
condone wrote a book
role rose wonderful in a public message to congress in nineteen thirty eight
when he said one whenever governments controlled by private economic power
that's fascism
fascism
communism off social
concentration of power
no this is as you see the dialogue uh... starts in the early the book in a
mountain top hotel engineering two thousand six
in maui hawaii
where warren buffett and other cities complain from bill cosby
to william gates senior to ted turner to george soros
and others
he gets a minute atrium rome with good hawaiian approved
and drinks
uh... and toothpaste they decide they're going to vocal here
with lightning fast strategies mobilization of
people and congressional districts in communities all over the country they're
going to pull
whatever it takes
and what it takes without giving away how it ended in the book
is about fifteen billion dollars
and immobilized
tens of millions of people in this country
many of them hungry to take back their country to put
uh... we the people back into the sovereignty
of our country
had to make a washington accountable to them
and to make the corporations there's service not their masters so
there is a strong dialogue with conservatives and in this book
especially near the end of it
where basically
these seventeen super-rich guide who call themselves mail your wrist people
who improve things
they knew they couldn't do it by themselves i have to be a top-down
bottom-up but they also saw that if they can
get common ground on hub nuttall
some very important economic
and freedom and accountability issues between conservative liberals
uh... they were much more likely
uh... to prevail
xx
strategies and i think one of the
his how slow the current government processes work i mean when we talk about
health care in the
health care reform we're talking about changes that will take you
end start rolling out interface
that a government as big as the one in the u_s_ too
operate in a faster way could make changes in a quicker way exactly workers
shows and great fair although it's
it's political fiction it's often called practical utopian fiction in the
literary world
uh... the rest of it is is could happen uh... i don't want the readers to read a
page with
saying how this could really happen if resource of the money with there
and indeed that's the signal mark of the book dispatches good strategy it's not
just mobilizing working people around the country take back congress et cetera
it's it's events but the bond are there for a mass media for setting up a
people's chamber of commerce first
for small medium style business cork investing in a struggle economy to show
best practices one area painting cool collected into finance autos said
and uh...
dry-cleaner just abolition that's an interesting part of the book
as well as creating a strong exodus in congress watchdog
organizations and each
rational
district so what we're talking about your business
there five hundred thirty five men and women in the senate-house who put their
shoes on every day like you and i do
and they have the constitutional power
uh... to act allocate budgets in an efficient way for a government up right
before the people
and to take on these corporations
that's what
we do we we've we've got in this book doesn't exaggerate the opposition in the
concentration of power and if you had it takes them on
deconstruct them
and slowly
you can see the profit as it goes through march april may june july august
in this type an x power collusion
you can see
how we concentrated power guys
began
to discuss things between themselves but they never worked
one please see this tidal wave
of deliberative
popular power moving their direction and i think it's a book work and people read
it they'll come out feeling stronger as a citizen for a lot to learn from
strategies and tactics and
persistent
and they'll have exciting read
and that'll be less likely to be inhibited and asking rich people in
there
communities that they give money for just cause
passes says you would please
the right type of work focusing on the right issues in in the right way are you
happy with what any
those five hundred and thirty five members are doing
yeah i would hope or ten percent
of the members of congress who can and whose yes clear of poor
hardworking
people like ed markey henry waxman dennis kucinich walter jones a
republican from north carolina
who was very skeptical about the war in iraq a pink slip
congress is abandoning its constitutional responsibilities
there are people
in in the uh... senate senator feingold great champion of the constitution pert
for example
pora very good
you know that there is some of them are very good in certain areas in florida
not so excited in other areas but about ten percent of them
they were carted they really want to try to represent the people at least ninety
percent
who are never various degrees of careerism
of surrender ism cowardly ism
and have just sheer ignorance like
the ones that are pushing for nuclear power resurgence nuclear power plant
it's completely on economic it's been shown to be
they won't listen to people like any real open please
davis energy
expert physicist who consults with the utility companies in the pentagon
they just close out they say okay
whoever nuclear power in congress
and we're going to require
the taxpayer
to gave a one hundred percent loan guarantee
uh... to every electric company that built a new nuclear plant because the
wall street privately financed
firms will not lent money to build these ten billion dollar planets
without a hundred percent government longer to catch your interest