now as we talk about uprisings and
rebellion and wars that have been going
on in the world as we see peace deals
fail diplomacy fall short some are
calling not to work within this
framework but for a total overhaul of
society and of culture the Venus Project
is one of those they're pushing for a
sustainable New World Civilization
unlike any other before that's their
claim roxan Meadows from the Venus
Project is here to talk about it hi
roxan thank for being here so the Venus
Project wants a world where War poverty
hunger debt human suffering are not only
avoidable but completely unacceptable
sounds great how could that possibly
work yes we are calling for that but it
can't be done within the confines of the
free enterprise system under socialism
communism or any social stratification
or social system that has gone before
what we are introducing is a new method
of organizing and running Society based
on the meth methods of Science and
Technology applied to the social system
I'm not talking about scientists because
they've been conditioned in this system
just like anybody else they can be used
to make weapons and bombs and abused in
this way so we are talking about what we
call a resource-based economy jacqu
Fresco has worked on this for over 75
years to arrive at this dire ction and
if you look at our website the Venus
pro.com you will see technology you
would see a new social design you will
see the the um explanation of a
resource-based economy we don't use
money okay I'm sorry I don't want to
interrupt I just wanted to say that our
viewers are seeing images from your
website you argue that this is
feasible what exactly though are you
offering well we're talking about a new
way of organiz organizing Society today
our technology is racing forward but our
social designs are thousands of years
old and they are not keeping up with our
ability to produce abundant abundance
with the intelligent management of our
resources and our technology you can't
do that within the monetary system there
is just too much corruption the system
breeds by promoting scarcity we're
talking about promoting abundance and we
can still do that we still have the
resources to do that so we're talking
about a system where you don't need
money you you don't need barter credit
or servitude of any kind we can organize
Society organize our resources on a
global scale it has to be Global as long
as few Nations control most of the
Earth's resources you're going to have
insurmountable problems it really has to
take care of the needs of everyone and
as I'm saying we can do that we have the
technology we met maybe couldn't have
done it a hundred years ago but today we
can do something like that we can update
our social system to fit in with our
technological ability okay I want to get
a little bit more into that if we have
time but I I do want to ask aside from
money and capital which you argue you
would not use we are in the United
States under a two-party political
system and we're of course gearing up
for presidential campaigns now so aside
from the money portion which is a total
overhaul what are you offering that
isn't already part of liberal agenda or
a conservative
agenda has nothing to do with that we we
look at this as one agenda based on
those who have the ability to persuade
to bribe through through monetary means
to lobby for their own interests th this
system is really not run by the Bottom
by the people up it's really run by the
top down and those people who have money
can influence people for their own ends
that's how law are made so we're talking
about a system not based on politics but
based on scientific method to take care
of our problems we have lots of problems
we're not addressing them polit
politicians when you think of it what do
they bring you what can they do do they
clean the air just go and ask them can
they make you cleaner safer
Transportation can they make you clean
energy systems I I don't know anything
that politician a politician has brought
us it's really science that has has
elevated Society but not the way we're
using science
today misuse science that's happening
today sorry you're breaking up a bit I
didn't mean to interrupt you who runs
things then in your
world well it's not a matter of who runs
things it's how we organize society and
how we meet the needs of people what we
do first is take a survey of the Earth's
resources find out what we have that
that's what we based our our our
societies on find out where the
resources are find out where the
technical Personnel are find out for
instance where the diseases are that
determines how many hospitals you build
find out what the needs of the people
are today our society is not based on
the needs of the people and that's
that's quite obvious when there's so
many people that are starving and don't
have food and whenever other people have
too too much so it's it's not based on
opinion it's not based on differential
Advantage it's based on the needs of the
people and that's very different as I
mentioned than today because today the
society is based on wealth property and
power it sounds like a it sounds like
science but it also sounds like kind of
a a utopic vision of things without any
kind of leadership at the top down so
then why are you at odds from what I
understand with other people who are
calling for sustainable societies like
the zeist movement that doesn't seem
very
utopian
well well first of all there is no such
thing as utopian that notion is a
fixed is like a a a fixed thing that
we're trying to strive for there are no
final Frontiers there are no utopians
okay we're not at odds with the zes
movement um but I would say that all of
the solutions that the zy movement
speaks about concerning the future
originated from The Works of the Venus
Project we had no say in the Runnings in
the direction of the zygotes movement
while they were using our name and our
materials which we agreed to at the
beginning all right so it was I'm so
sorry unfortunately we're out of time I
do appreciate you explaining that and
coming on to tell us about the Venus
Project that was rockand Meadows