DRIVE THIS CAMPAIGN TO THE VERY
END.
IT JUST DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO
ME.
>>> ALL RIGHT.
WE WANT TO GET NOW TO THE FACTS
OF THE SCIENCE OF WHAT THE
PRESIDENT IS FLOUTING IN EVERY
MOVE LATELY.
JOINING US NOW INFECTIOUS
DISEASE PHYSICIAN AND MEDICAL
DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PATHOGENS
UNIT AT THE BOSTON UNIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF MEDICINE.
DR. NAHEED BAH DILL YA.
THANKS FOR WAITING WE WANTED TO
PUT THIS IN CONTEXT.
WE HAVE THE HEADLINE OF THE
UNDERCOUNT OF CORONAVIRUS CASES.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STATES
PAUSING THEIR REOPENING BECAUSE
THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP.
WE HAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP PULLING
FEDERAL FUNDING FOR TESTING.
WE HAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP MOVING
TO INVALIDATE HEALTH CARE FOR
MILLIONS OF AMERICA.
AND HE TWEETED LAST NIGHT,
CORONAVIRUS DEATHS ARE WAY DOWN.
MORTALITY RATE IS ONE OF THE
LOWEST IN THE WORLD.
OUR ECONOMY IS ROARING BACK AND
WILL NOT BE SHUTDOWN.
EMBERS OR FLARE-UPS WILL BE PUT
OUT AS NECESSARY.
DO YOU SEE THIS VIRUS, AT THE
RATE IT’S GOING, AS FLARE-UPS
AND EMBERS OR HOW WOULD YOU
DESCRIBE WHERE WE STAND WITH THE
CORONAVIRUS?
>> MIKA, IT’S BEEN SAID MULTIPLE
TIMES BUT I DON’T THINK WE’VE
LEFT THE FIRST WAVE AND WE ARE
HITTING LIKE RECORDS EVERY
SINGLE DAY WE’RE PASSING RECORDS
OF WHAT WE’VE HAD.
AND THE PRESIDENT IS MISSING OUT
WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE
MORTALITY BEING LOW, YOU GET
CASES FIRST, A PER SEN TAJ OF
THOSE CASES THEN ARE
HOSPITALIZATIONS.
AND THE LAST INDICATOR IS
DEATHS.
SO THE RISE IN INFECTIONS YOU’RE
SEEING NOW, YOU’LL SEE A PORTION
OF THOSE PEOPLE GET SICK ENOUGH
THAT WILL PASS AWAY AND WE
EXPECT THE DEATH RATE TO GO UP
BECAUSE OF THAT.
EVERYBODY’S HOPE IS THAT
MORTALITY RATE IS LOWER THAN
WHAT WE SAW DURING APRIL AND MAY
BECAUSE WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE
DISEASE, WE HAVE SOME TOOLS TO
DEAL WITH IT.
BUT THE THING THAT’S WORKING
AGAINST IT IS THE FACT THAT NOW
THIS PANDEMIC IS PLAYING OUT IN
STATES THAT POTENTIALLY DON’T
HAVE THE SAME KIND OF RESILIENCE
IN THEIR HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS.
TEXAS, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED
ABOUT TEXAS, CAROLINAS, FLORIDA,
THOSE ARE STATES EVEN BEFORE THE
ACA, EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC
HAD HIGH AMOUNTS OF PATIENTS WHO
WERE UNINSURED.
THESE ARE STATES THAT HAVE VERY
LOW LEVEL OF PUBLIC HEALTH
SPENDING AND ON TOP OF THAT IF
YOU’RE TAKING AWAY THE SAFETY
NET FOR PEOPLE TO BE INSURED TO
SEEK THAT CARE, YOU’RE DRIVING
INTO A SITUATION THAT MIGHT
INCREASE INCOME INEQUALITY IN
THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO
NEED THE HEALTH INSURANCE ARE
PEOPLE WHO ARE FRONTLINE,
ESSENTIAL WORKERS, HIGHEST RISK
OF GETTING THE DISEASE, ALSO THE
FOLKS LIKELY TO GET THE DISEASE
AND MAY NEED HOSPITALIZATIONS
AND WOULD HAVE THE COST OF THOSE
HOSPITALIZATIONS AFFECT THEM
REALLY PRETTY -- YOU KNOW,
PRETTY SEVERELY ECONOMICALLY AS
WELL.
>> SO LET’S LOOK AT THIS AS
WELL.
ACCORDING TO JOHNS HOPKINS
UNIVERSITY, OUT OF THE 20
COUNTRIES MOST AFFECTED BY
COVID-19, THE U.S. HAS THE
SEVENTH HIGHEST OBSERVED CASE
FATALITY RATIO FOR COVID-19 AND
THIRD HIGHEST PER CAPITA DEATH
RATE.
NEW MODELING PREDICTS THE VIRUS
WILL KILL 180,000 --
>> AGAIN THE THIRD HIGHEST PER
CAPTAIN
CAPITA DEATH RATE IN THE WORLD.
>> THANK YOU.
AND THE NEW MODELING PREDICTS
THE VIRUS WILL KILL 180,000
AMERICANS BY OCTOBER.
WHAT WOULD BE THE STEPS TAKEN TO
TRY TO THEM THOSESTEM THOSE NUMB
THEM DOWN.
>> WE LOST A PORTION OF
AMERICANS IN THIS FIGHT BECAUSE
WE HAVEN’T HAD A NATIONAL VISION
OR STRATEGY FOR THIS PANDEMIC.
PART OF IT IS BECAUSE SCIENCE
HAS CHANGED AND BECAUSE OF THAT
PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY HAS TO
CHANGE AND WE HAVEN’T HAD A
NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH PRESENCE
CONTINUOUSLY TO EXPLAIN THE
CHANGES.
AND THE THIRD IS THERE ARE
PORTIONS OF OUR POLITICS OR
POLITICIANS THAT HAVE
POLITICIZED INTERVENTIONS TO THE
PANDEMIC WHICH HAS DRIVEN PEOPLE
AWAY FROM THE STEPS THEY NEED TO
TAKE.
SO WE NEED TO BASICALLY TAKE
THIS -- TAKE THIS TO THE LOCAL
LEVEL.
WE HAVE TO TAKE TO CITIES.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE TOWN
HALL THAT HAPPENED IN FLORIDA
THAT WAS TELEVISED WHERE THERE
WAS THIS IMMENSE AMOUNT OF ANGER
FOR MASK MANDATES THAT ARE
NECESSARY.
THAT REMINDS ME OF 2014, ONE OF
DEPLOYMENTS IN WEST AFRICA, AN
EBOLA TREATMENT UNIT AND OUTSIDE
THE UNIT THERE WERE PEOPLE ANGRY
WITH MACHETES BECAUSE THEY WERE
AFRAID WE WERE DOING SOMETHING
TO THEIR FAMILIES.
IT’S THE SAME THING, THE FEAR,
THE ANGER OF THE UNKNOWN.
AND WE HAVEN’T HAD A UNIFIED
PUBLIC HEALTH VOICE TO GIVE THAT
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
SO THE DRIVE NEEDS TO GO TO THE
LOCAL LEVEL.
WE NEED TO WIN OVER COMMUNITIES,
STAKEHOLDERS, CHURCHES, LOCAL
POLITICIANS, PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP
US GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS.
THAT’S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS
I SEE THAT’S MISSING RIGHT NOW.
>> DOCTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING ON THIS MORNING.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING
JOE," THE OTHER PART OF THE
ONE-TWO PUNCH OF THE PANDEMIC.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE HEALTH