>> To dive deeper into the
repercussions of Donald Trump is
legal troubles and more, we turn
to our analysts.
It is good to see you both.
Jack Smith leveled new charges
against Donald Trump this week.
How do these additional charges
change or expand our
understanding of this case?
>> When I talked to a lot of
trouble supporters about this,
they were very disappointed.
The cover-up is going to be the
worst.
I have questioned whether a lot
of these things should be
pursued.
If they get one of these people
to turn on him and say he asked
me to cover up this or see if we
can delete this footage, that
will be very bad.
His opponents looking at this
politically need to quit
resorting to defending him if
they want to make any headway
against them.
They need to say, this is a
cover-up.
As your earlier guest said today
on the show, this is the
evidence of doing something
wrong.
This is an opportunity to
separate trump from his
supporters.
But to do that, the doj needs to
realize they have parallel
things going on area they cannot
seem to have a double standard.
You have a week where the
president's son was in court
trying to do a sweetheart deal
and plead to two misdemeanors.
He thought he would be immunized
from any other crimes that he
might've been committed.
The president's main opponent is
saying that's keep indicting
more and more people around him
to see if they will flip.
You have to not have an excuse
for trump to say there is a
double standard going on here.
>> What do you make of that
parallel?
>> There is no parallel between
the legal troubles involving the
president son and the mountain
of legal problems facing the
former president of the united
States.
The cover-up that is alleged in
the superseding indictment is
damming.
But so is the original
indictment.
He cap -- cap classified
documents.
We saw how the boxes were being
moved around.
The superseding indictment shows
that the loss wanted the tapes
destroyed.
He was moving boxes and self and
going through them and picking
things out and shoving boxes
elsewhere.
What the American people are
learning is the former president
of the United States looks even
worse now after the superseding
indictment.
As we are waiting for a possible
indictment in the other jack med
investigation.
There is no excuse for this.
I have set it in the beginning.
Trump is his own worst enemy.
He should have given the
documents back the minute he was
asked.
But don't pretend there is not a
public perception element of
this.
You need more of the public to
weigh in and say this is the
right thing to do.
You need to have the confidence
that the doj plays it straight
down the middle on high-profile
cases.
>> We have a new poll that asks
if trump's troubles are
resonating among the electorate.
51% say trump has done something
illegal.
Others say he is on something
unethical.
Some say he has done nothing
wrong.
What do you make of those
results?
>> The majority of the country
sees what he did as illegal.
I will take that.
That tells me that the impact of
what we are learning is having
an impact on the way people
arguing the former president.
The 19% that you him as having
done nothing wrong, that is not
surprising.
>> Others say they do not think
it is illegal.
>> It is 46%.
>> When is that not about half?
>> When 51% say he has done
that.
>> We will table that for now.
What do you make of his
hardwired fixation with Hillary
Clinton's emails?
Now he is accused of trying to
destroy a server.
>> Are you saying perhaps we
will get the same result with
the trump case as we got with
the Hillary case?
Which was no charges.
That is a lot of the problem.
That is why they bring up
Hillary Clinton.
She was in a similar situation.
No charges, no reasonable
prosecutor would bring charges.
A lot of people have never
bought that.
They will question why trump is
being treated differently.
>> He is being treated different
because he had classified
documents that were about
nuclear secrets.
If we have learned anything from
the four years of his presidency
and his campaign leading up to
it and the contain -- campaign
to try to get reelected, he is
the master of projection area
anything he accuses somebody
else of doing, he has either
done it himself for real or
would really like to do it.
But we are discovering now is
she has gone all of the things
he has accused Tillery of --
Hillary Clinton of doing.
A lot of those females had to do
with cookie recipes and
appointments.
None had to do with nuclear
secrets.
There is no parallel.
No similarity at all.
>> A lot of the things they
found on her server were
classified.
And probably were accessed by
foreign agents.
We don't know if they were
nuclear secrets.
We don't know all about all the
ones that were deleted.
>> If they were nuclear secrets,
we would've known.
>> I want to talk about
something else happens this past
week.
Mitch Mcconnell was giving a
press conference when suddenly
he stopped speaking.
It was difficult to watch.
He stopped speaking for about 19
seconds.
One of the senators to his left
stepped in and walked him away.
Yesterday senator Dianne
Feinstein appeared infused
during a vote on a defense bill.
What are we to make of this?
>> It is concerning.
It plays to why people have
these concerns to begin with.
The Mitch Mcconnell thing was
disturbing to watch.
He is clearly not fine.
>> The Republican leader says he
will serve out the remainder of
his term.
Senator Feinstein's office said
that was a very chaotic session.
She was awfully aware of what
was happening.
>> This conversation we are
having now because of what
happened with the senators.
They have demonstrable and
reported health difficulties.
That gives Democrats and
Republicans a lot of concern.
I think what is happening with
them will lead to a conversation
that I think we should have.
How long is too long?
How old is too old?
If you want to serve even longer
, what are the things you have
to do to demonstrate to the
American people that you should
be entrusted with an elected
position?
How much more transparent must
you be if you want to serve
beyond a certain age?
I think those are reasonable
questions to debate.
>> Seniority accounts for a lot.
There are prerogatives and
positions that come with that.
Does it make sense.
>> I have never been a fan of
term limits.
When people complain about the
deed state and leaving
bureaucrats in control of
things, that is what you will
have.
I think some cognitive testing
or something like that is not
out of the question.
>> The key thing you loses
expertise.
>> Great to see you.
Take care.
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