are you trying to tell me that you
didn't just gloss over nicolo nicola
yokic yesterday who is
along with wilt chamberlain the only
center to record 50 triple doubles in
the car he is a load he is a load
he's a seven footer he's got some girth
he got passing abilities familiar with
his work
yeah oh oh so you're telling me at him
to golfing over i'm familiar with his
work yeah
no you don't go gloss over if by gloss
over
you mean i didn't proclaim him mvp
35 games in no i didn't do that
i didn't do that if any if you wanted to
come here today and accuse me of
something
on the day that james harden is about to
go back to houston as a brooklyn net
if you want to accuse me of getting
carried away with letting bygones be
bygones yesterday
that's one thing yeah i did that when
talking about james harden's
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this is the problem i told you that hey
somebody you feel some kind of way
i think you either tune me out or your
ifb ain't working
because michael we have literally been
having mvp conversations for the last
two weeks
and i know good and damn well in my feed
last week it said
no joke jokic
for mvp so you're achieving a guy
you got you are a storyteller you got
your own business
and everything they work it out for you
pretty well
um we're going to go 1970 style
remember remember remember old school
1970s and the character will be sitting
there saying
remember that day and the screen would
get wavy
and it'll be like a dream show oh yeah
yeah yeah yeah the flashback okay
flashback we're gonna do that right now
here's a flashback here's you from
yesterday check it out
oh no i don't know you do going into
this year it was lebron's award to lose
i fear he may have lost it with the
lakers recent performance
not that that makes lebron any worse of
a player but unless he goes on some
ridiculous tear
which and that coincides with a struggle
on the part of joel embiid or nicola
yokich
or james harden for that matter i don't
see lebron overtaking them to claim his
fifth mvp i could be wrong
i'm not i'm not indicting lebron i'm
just trying to predict how people are
going to think
that was a gloss over that's the best
you could do
okay
okay okay what words matter so wait a
second so you okay
y'all started kiking about like oh we're
gonna get michael like hold on man
like the beginning of that conversation
started with the leaders for mvp right
now are two bigs
joel embiid and nikola jokic and then i
got off in the heart
and then we got off into that tangent
about lebron i didn't gloss over anybody
come on man like if you go if you're
going to cover receipts make sure
they're accurate receipts
like how can you gloss over somebody
damn the average of a triple-double
at the five spot everybody knows nikolay
ilkich is in the middle of the mvp
conversation
everybody knows that yesterday we were
talking about hardin just because
you got excited about what he did last
night against the lakers
when he was incredible the mvp
conversation as you know michael is
ongoing and nikolaj last night made his
statement
he got his word in edgewise when it came
to this mvp conversation
so don't say all i'm saying is pick your
pronouns better okay you meant glossover
i if we didn't gloss over anything you
may have glossed over nicola jokage
because i know you and dr rivers says
y'all boys
you've probably been on the phone with
doc rivers talking about the maturation
and the evolution of joel and beat i get
it you better
simultaneously hating on the nets
and big up the sixers you've been you
love
daryl murray doc rivers you've been a
sixers guy so you been glossed over
the joker but that that don't
leave that there look at those numbers
50 seconds
you know he probably wins the stat war
he probably wins this that way like that
that's that line is just
that's just crazy that's that's not the
8.6 is it 8.6
assists yeah is this
is the record good 41 percent for 2015
it's crazy so they're 20 and 15 and
they're in their
you know advanced stats if you call a
point differential and that sort of
thing
you know at an advanced stat um
it's better than their record would
indicate they're not they're not
a barely over 500 20 and 15. you know um
is that is that going to be good enough
for him to be mvp i think that's the
only thing really working against him if
anything right now
uh is there is there standing in the
conference so what do you say
no i think okay so this year they got
off to like a a pretty
uh unspectacular unremarkable yeah so
they're in seventh place right now
technically
but but 2015 is actually pretty good
from where they were
with those numbers with those historic
numbers
for a big man doing that he's not going
to be out of the conversation
i think it comes out of this if if uh if
the sixers don't win the east
and the nuggets don't look like the
nuggets are gonna win the west sixers
don't win the east and nuggets don't win
the west
then it's a jump ball and maybe
advantage jokic but if if the sixers win
the east
mb probably gets it it probably comes
down to that it's the
i would look at it it comes down to
those two guys though it sounds like you
know
guys have this have they separated
themselves
with your boy pardon pushing pushing
hard on the outside
kentucky derby oh got to pay attention
to him okay here he is
making a push right here on nbc right
nbc family
uh kentucky derby anyway i think harden
is
has made a strong case for himself as
you mentioned yesterday
uh narrative you talk about narrative
giannis doesn't win it based on the
storyline for the two years
has been killing it lately he's been
killing it lately that's for sure i know
you know now and playing well and it's a
different story
it's a different story for a different
day mike but it's just
it's kind of messed up i understand what
lebron always complains about the mvp
process because he wants to win it every
year
but if you take lebron if you take the
speaker out of it and just look at the
content
of what lebron and others have said
about mvp it is hard to follow
it is very hard to follow like one year
like that first year lebron went to
miami
it didn't matter what he did it didn't
matter what he did no he wasn't going he
was not going to win it
because people were mad at him for going
to it for going to miami
so i think if i'm not mistaken i haven't
looked at it
the very next year he won the mvp his
second year in miami i think he won the
mvp
that year sounds right if you look at
his stats
if you look at his stats that second
year you're like oh
oh okay um i mean the numbers are better
uh than than year one but you could have
made that same case last year and then
for giannis what he has working against
him
is his success so he he could
theoretically have a better statistical
season
in his in this third year in his third
year of
hey mvp one and mvb2 and now here
here he is in this third season of the
mvp watch
he can have a better statistical season
here
and not win it because people might say
well
is that enough to justify three straight
mvps it's really screwed up if you think
about it so
harden harden loses the narrative
conversation i think
and it does come down to the something
and then we'll have all these stories
about
the return the renaissance of the five
in the nba yeah you know there's voter
fatigue
there's always that you know and uh
there was going to be voter fatigue for
lebron
regardless of what he did this year
although there was a lot of
voter remorse if that's the thing uh for
not giving the best player to mvp last
year
when giannis was completely deserving
last year um
it's a regular season award um i think
there's also
always looking for somebody new to give
it to a new narrative to jump on if you
will
uh and jokic and then b to your point
both fit that you know they have they
haven't won it yet so
the breakthrough we love the people that
take the next step
uh and love to recognize it's it's it's
the elite players version of most
improved player
you know and when you just kind of take
that leap and you take that team with
you
it's like well we can't give joel to b
most improved we can give him mvp
you know we can't give your most
improved we can give him mvp and and
and they're both fascinating guys like
you said to to throw it back to
the old school and and for for for
pivots for
for five men to be leading the way when
nobody's wanted since shaq
is is some is something new to talk
about uh versus giving it to the same
old
uh usual suspects but they talk about
gloss over you talk about gloss over
right let's
not gloss over last night and jokic is
putting up 37 11 assists and 10 rebounds
going at the reigning two-time mvp and
joining wilt chamberlain i mean every
time
we stop the presses every time lebron
joins jordan or joins kareem or joins
somebody
you know eventually he's gonna be the
only one in these categories but like
him and will chamberlain like in the
pantheon in a long
rich history of nba centers
wilt chamberlain and some second round
serbian pick name
nikolajokic are the only ones with 50
triple doubles
that's incredible it is that's just
we're celebrating
itself for him to be in the mvp
conversation whether he has the last
word
or whether his name is ultimately called
uh to get the award
it's just you have to tip your cap to
this kid's story
and the player that he turned himself
into uh and a player that he continues
to be
uh regardless of whether he's recognized
with mvp or not but he'll he'll get
votes he'll get he'll be one of the
leading vote-getters he'll he may be
runner-up you know
if it's it's the nature of this like the
conversation in and of itself is kind of
recognition when you're in the mvp
conversation all season long
whether you get it or not it's one of
the few conversations one in a few
competitions
where people actually do remember who
finished second
you know people who people do remember
the runners up because there's some
prestige with simply being
uh in the midst of the conversation you
know i might
you're gonna find it's hard to believe i
actually in a lot of cases
i hate hyperbole when it comes to the
nba
yeah well actually you don't find it
hard to believe that's why i keep making
fun of luca
and the in the shot in the first round
you know
or and not just to pick on luca and not
to pick on luca
last year when bam adebayo had a block
in what
game four or game five
maybe it may have even been game two
of the eastern conference finals is this
the best block we've ever seen in nba
history
i can't stand that kind of i can't stand
it i mean the league's been around
for 70 plus years and we talked
in 2021 about oh we've never seen this
before
this has never happened before i mean i
i my instinct is to say
i bet we have i i bet we have
i say all that to say this i have not
seen
a center play like this i've never
seen oh nobody nobody's past it like
this nobody
never seen the center plate and shot
like this
that's what i was gonna say mike nobody
because even if you go no
even if you go because i i built that in
with
i i hear the old school argument in my
head like well oh young fellas
the bonus could pass yeah yeah you don't
understand what you know what
you could do you know you you don't you
didn't see kareem
yeah doing all this okay got it yeah
yeah but a guy who can pass like this
and who can shoot the three ball
he's shooting 41 percent from three he's
one of he's one of
he's one of a kind he's one of a kind we
call him a joker and they got two jokers
but he's the big one that's for damn
sure they've got two jokers in the deck
but he's a big one hey thanks for
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