PLEASE WELCOME THE NATION FACE HIMSELF, JOHN DICKERSON.
>> Stephen: THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE ON THIS NIGHT, PAUSE THIS IS THE FINAL
SHOW OF OUR FIRST SEASON, 202, AND YOU JUST FINISHED YOUR FIRST
SEASON ON CBS' "FACE THE NATION."
SO DO YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE?
>> OF COURSE!
>> Stephen: HOW ABOUT WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING RIGHT THERE
FOR YOU, A LITTLE SOMETHING RIGHT THERE, DEALER TAKES ONE.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE A FAN OF A GIN MARTINI.
>> I AM.
THAT'S HOW YOU CELEBRATE THE FIRST YEAR, JUNIPER, RIGHT.
>> Stephen: I DIDN'T REALIZE THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY WAS THE
JUNIPER ANNIVERSARY.
>> WOW!
CONGRATULATIONS!
>> Stephen: OH, BACK AT YOU.
BACK AT YOU.
ALL RIGHT, HERE.
HERE'S TO WILLIAM PALEY.
THERE YOU GO.
>> YES.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THAT'S REALLY NICE.
>> OKAY.
>> Stephen: THAT'S REALLY NICE.
>> LET'S JUST FINISH THIS AND TAKE A NAP!
>> Stephen: EXACTLY.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED?
WHAT'S A BIG THING.
GIVE ME A LITTLE ADVICE.
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED IN YOUR FIRST YEAR THAT YOU THINK I NEED
TO KNOW?
>> WHAT HAVE I LEARNED?
>> Stephen: ANY OF YOUR GUESTS--
>> SO I INTERVIEWED PRESIDENT OBAMA.
>> Stephen: OKAY, THERE YOU GO.
>> I DROMED THE PEN.
THE-- HE-- SO I SAID, "WHAT DID YOUR PREDECESSOR TELL YOU,
ADVICE FOR THE JOB?" AND HE SAID GEORGE W. BUSH GAVE
HIM SOME SERIOUS ADVICE AND THEN PRACTICAL ADVICE, WHICH WAS HAND
SANITIZER.
>> Stephen: HAND SANITIZER?
>> YOU SHAKE A LOT OF HANDS AND SO USE A LOT OF HAND SANITIZER
SO YOU WON'T GET SICK AND YOU SHAKE EVEN MORE HANDS SO YOU
DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE HANDS HAVE BEEN.
>> Stephen: I SHOOK YOUR HAND.
THERE YOU GO.
( APPLAUSE ) IT WORKS DOUBLE DUTY LIKE THIS.
>> I LEARNED DON'T DO HAND SANITIZER AND THEN EAT CHEETOS.
DURING ONE OF THE CONVENTIONS-- YOU KNOW HOW CHEETOS STICK TO
YOUR FINGERS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO LICK THE CHEETOS OFF.
>> Stephen: I PUT THEM IN A TROUGH AND GO LIKE THIS.
DEBATES ARE COMING UP.
HERE'S SOME INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE WAY THE TWO CANDIDATES
ARE PREPARING.
HILLARY CLINTON IS, EVIDENTLY, APPROACHING IT VERY STUDIOUSLY.
WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S PREPARATION, ANYTHING AT
ALL?
>> WHAT HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER HAS SAID IS HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE--
DO IT THE NORMAL WAY.
HE'S GOT HIS OWN APPROACH.
SO THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON SUNDAY, AND IT'S MORE OF A KIND
OF A CONVERSATION THAN, YOU KNOW-- I MEAN, IN 1992, BILL
CLINTON STUDIED FOR THE TOWN HALL DEBATE WHERE THEY HAD AN
AUDIENCE.
THEY MADE A MOCK STAGE, AND THEY PRACTICED IT AT A HOTEL.
I MEAN, THEY PRACTICED IT DOWN TAKEOVER LITTLE GESTURE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS DOING.
>> Stephen: HILLARY CLINTON CAN'T-- HILLARY CLINTON IS
HAVING TROUBLE FINDING SOMEBODY TO SIT IN FOR DONALD TRUMP TO BE
THE MOCK DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE NO ONE CAN CAN OUT-MOCK HIM.
>> THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.
I DON'T-- ( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: I WILL NEITHER CONFIRM NOR DENY THAT SAYS JOHN
DICKERSON.
ALL RIGHT, WHO DO YOU HAVE THIS SUNDAY ON "FACE THE NATION"?
>> WE HAVE CHRIS CHRISTIE IS GOING TO BE ON.
IT'S A SURTBAT FOR DONALD TRUMP.
>> Stephen: WHO HELPED SET UP THE MEETING WITH THE MEXICAN
PRESIDENT.
>> AND ALSO WHO IS DOING THE TRANSITION.
>> Stephen: THE POSSIBLE TRANSITION.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: YOU ALMOST MADE ME FAINT JUST NOW.
>> HILLARY CLINTON HAS HER OWN PERSON DOING THE TRANSITION AS
WELL.
HE'S GETTING EVERYTHING READY SHOULD THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
HAPPEN.
AND JEFF FLAKE FROM ARIZONA, TRUMP MADE THE TRIP TO ARIZONA,
AND FLAKE HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE.
AND HE'S ALSO ONE OF THE SENATORS, REPUBLICAN SENATORS
WHO IS STILL IN THE "NEVER TRUMP" CAMP.
SO WE'LL SEE IF HE'S CHANGED HIS MIND.
>> Stephen: YOUR NEW BOOK IS CALLED "WHISTLESTOP."
I'M A FAN OF THIS BOOK AND I HAVEN'T EVEN READ IT YET.
THIS IS BASED ON-- THE INSPIRATION IS A PODCAST YOU DO,
WHICH I LOVE, CALLED "WHISTLESTOP," WHICH IS YOUR
FAVORITE STORIES FROM PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS.
IS THERE ANYTHING-- LIKE, YOU'LL TALK ABOUT, LIKE THE RONALD
REAGAN "I PAID FOR THIS MICROPHONE," MOMENT.
OR ED MUSKY CRYING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
IS THERE ANY STORY FROM YOUR ARCHIVE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL
RACES IN THE PAST THAT YOU THINK IS APPLICABLE TO THIS YEAR THAT
EVERYBODY SAYS IS UNPRECEDENTED?
>> WELL, SO, THERE ARE SORT OF THREE-- I KNOW YOU ASKED FOR
ONE.
SO IN 1824, ANDREW JACKSON RUNS, ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE.
EVERYBODY WORRIES ABOUT HIM BEING A DEMAGOGUE.
THEY WORRY EVERYBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S A WAR
HERO.
AND HE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT?
ALL THESE ELITES WHO ARE PICK THE CANDIDATES, THE NOMINEES OF
THE PARTY, FORGET THEM.
THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PICKING.
THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A VOICE.
WE HEARD PART OF THAT IN THIS CAMPAIGN THIS YEAR SPHWHRI
UNDERSTAND BACK IN THE OLD DAYS YOU DIDN'T RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
>> NO, IN FACT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT WAS SHOWED YOU LACKED
THE VIRTUE FOR THE OFFICE.
IT SHOWED YOU WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE YOURSELF --
>> THEY HAD TO COME AND SAY, "PLEASE, PLEASE BE OUR
PRESIDENT."
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS WAS PART OF THE DOUBLE GAME THEY WERE PLAYING WHICH WAS, "I
DON'T UPON THE OFFICE," AND THEN YOU HAD ALL YOUR FRIENDS OUT
THERE WORKING REALLY HARD TO HELP YOU GET IN THE OFFICE.
AND THAT NORM WAS BROKEN IN 1840 WITH WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON.
>> Stephen: OBVIOUSLY.
>> SURE, AS EVERYONE KNOWS.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
>> WHO WAS ONLY IN OFFICE FOR NOT EVEN LONG ENOUGH TO GIVE A
STATE OF THE UNION.
BUT SO 1964, GOLDWATER RUNS.
THERE IS A "STOP GOLDWATER" MOVEMENT, WHICH IS LIKE THE
"NEVER TRUMP "MOVEMENT.
AND THE OTHER PARALLEL WOULD BE 1968, GEORGE WALLACE.
THE CLIP YOU PLAYED EARLIER WHEN TRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
CHICAGO COP, WALLACE SAYS BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
HE SAID IF THE COPS WERE IN CHARGE, THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE
FIXED IN TWO YEARS.
>> Stephen: IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND
WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE READ CAN TH "WHISTLESTOP" BY
JOHN DICKERSON.
AND DON'T MIS"FACE THE NATION" ON SUNDAYS.
JOHN DICKERSON, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.