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we don't know
nearly as much as we're going to know in the future about edward snowed in
uh...
and there are some issues that i find are more relevant than others
i'm not uh... really terribly interested at this point in saying
uh... the man is a hero i certainly don't think that he is a traitor
uh...
and sheets quite clear to me that what
his actions at least or
uh...
has knowingly opened up a hat
a eighty a huge can of trouble for himself
and the seems to have done still with the basta of intentions
and i think that's admirable i mean
there is a
a lot about the guy that we don't know what is
i think it more enlightening at this stage
about
uh... snowed in
is what he has exposed just in terms of
how much private industry
is parted of this national security state
billions upon billions of dollars
engage steve bosch
profit motive
to increase
the size of the national security state and this is always a problem
for those of you who love the free market
hi you must obviously in the idea that money incentivize is
growth in entrepreneurial shipped in private care enterprise
uh... this is a real problem
and it was something that was started under the clinton administration
in uh... at tempting to shrink the size of government
courses not is shrinking aids and the size of government at least in this
regard has shrunk
relative to the size of the apparatus
nearly half of this national security apparatus has now been privatized
where there is an ongoing
incentive
two-income to enlarge this apparatus
an incredibly powerful incentive
where our tax dollars go to increasing the this a private uh...
industry
and they in turn
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and who knows
kicked back in the form of and they look at
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the current head of booz allen it was a former thirty for the national security
uh...
official under the bush administration
the uh... current ed of
uh... the national intelligence was a former booz allen ah... employees
and it's so
we have created a a a monster
and by outsourcing in this
uh... we have
added to a letter of expense
and we have created
again this self licking ice cream cone
where
the supposedly for all the secrecy
is created by those who are
making a lot of money
out of arguing it uh... the need for security and building the apparatus
now
again i'm not terribly interested
in making snowed in the story and i think that is a secondary story
and as much as he is was uh...
not interested in making him the story certainly became the story
in doing that this extended interview in exposing himself in the way they did it
uh...
and it's relevant
because i mean what has to keep in mind that said okay while we know from the
timeline at this point and again and i wanna get to my readiness
but uh...
it's it's relevant as to do
i'm not convinced that we you really have a good sense of what
of of
hopeful of why we know what we know at this point
and um... how we came to know what we know at this point
and the this is relevant because whenever you start to see leaks like
this whenever you see it see this information and you
uh... there's always stories that we may never know about it
now if this does not
in any way
implicate the myth of the
the essence of what we know from snowden at this point
the government is not in any way uh... as far as i have red
did i do anti of the validity of the information that has been passed on at
this point from snowed
no one is denying that prism exists
no one is denying that blarney or boundless uh... informant exists no one
is denying that that
defies the court now instead of signing off on specific warrants
in specific instances
now
has assumed the authority
to sign off on
large programs
without scrutinizing what those wahi is individually soft
in those programs
and that clearly
goes beyond
what at the very least was public knowledge about these programs
and that's what's important here
is that there has been an increase in we we saw it with
the uh...
signature strikes in the
targeted assassination program
i'd imagine this is indicative of a lot that's going on in this area of our
government which is
there are bodies of secret law
which are off the rising these programs in other words
our representatives have voted upon certain laws
and then
both laws go into a black box
select those uh... math problems when you were a kid right
the number five goes into
function
and comes out the other end as the number three
and then you must deduce
what's happening in that function that black box
in this case it was
minus three
if you get another probly said the number fifteen in the number comes out
the other sides twelve now we know it's minus three
this is the same dynamic that's going on here
and
on an unprecedented level
the law is passed
he goes into this black box it is interpreted by
video jade is interpreted by defies the court
and it comes out the other end to end authorizes all sorts of things
that are had not been adjudicated publicly in this is what the heart of
what
widen
and udall
screaming about for the past couple of years
the american public does not understand how these laws are being interpreted and
then how they're being executed
and that has become the the biggest revelation
i think of of these
that we have seen so far
from snowed is that we now have a sense of
how they're interpreting and them
and at what what comes out the other side