>> VERY FAR DOWN.
LARRY: THANK YOU BOTH.
JOINING ME NOW, NORTH DAKOTA
SENATOR KEVIN CRAMER, WELCOME
BACK TO THE SHOW.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON A SHOW THAT
PLAYED ON FOX NEWS, NATIVE
AMERICAN TRIBES DEPENDENT ON
FOSSIL FUEL RESOURCES RIPPED THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR DOUBLE
STANDARD.
THEY ARE COMPLAINING NORTH
AMERICAN TRIBES IS THEIR LAND
AND PROPERTY, THEY NEED THIS FOR
THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND REVENUES
AND BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHICH
SAYS THEY ARE FRIENDS TO THE
NATIVE AMERICANS ARE SAYING NO,
NO AND NO.
A LOT OF IT IS IN NORTH DAKOTA.
>> IT IS. BY THE WAY, CONGRATS ON THE
BY THE WAY, CONGRATS ON THE
BARKLEY PRIZE, YOU ARE WILLIAM F
BUCKLEY TO ME.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME
TIME, EVEN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
AND WAS IN THE HOUSE ON THE
NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE WE
HAD A HEARING ABOUT GAS
GATHERING LINES AND FLARING OF
NATURAL GAS HAPPENING MORE ON
TRIBAL LAND AND OTHER FEDERAL
LANDS LARGELY BECAUSE OF
BUREAUCRACY AND THE
ADMINISTRATION, DEMOCRATIC
ADMINISTRATION WAS HYPOCRITICAL
IN TERMS OF CONFLICT BETWEEN THE
SOVEREIGNTY FOR NATIVE AMERICANS
AND RESERVATIONS VERSUS THE
LEFT’S DESIRE TO STIFLE OIL AND
GAS INDUSTRY.
NOW IN NORTH DAKOTA 22% OF THE
OIL PRODUCED IS PRODUCED AT THE
NATION, A SOVEREIGN NATION
EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING WE
ALL EXPERIENCE, OVERREACH OF
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN’T
WANT RESOURCES TO BE DEVELOPED
EVEN FOR NATIVE AMERICAN
FRIENDS.
LARRY: I AM READING FROM THE
ARTICLE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT IS
EXPECTED TO FINALIZE 20 YEAR BAN
ON OIL AND GAS LEASING.
THIS IS -- CANYON HISTORICAL
PARK, NAVAJO LAND IN NEW MEXICO BUT THEY TALK ABOUT YOUR STATE,
BUT THEY TALK ABOUT YOUR STATE,
CHAIRMAN MARK FOX SAID LAST YEAR
OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN
FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS HAVE SOME
PLACE TO LIVE IN THEY NEED JOBS
AND LIVELIHOODS SO THIS IS AN
EXAMPLE, THE DOWNSIDE ON THE WAR
ON FOSSIL FUELS BUT NOT EVEN
THEIR OWN PROMISES TO THE NATIVE
AMERICANS AND INDIAN TRIBES ARE
BEING KEPT.
IT IS SOMETHING.
>> IT REALLY IS SOMETHING.
YOU HAVE TREATY RIGHTS HERE AND
LEGACY, OBLIGATIONS HERE BUT THE
FACT IS THEY ARE SOVEREIGN AND
HOW THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES AND
THE SAME SOVEREIGNTY EXTENDS
YOUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
MARK FOX IS A GOOD CHAIRMAN, I
LIKE MARK AND I WORK WITH HIM
CLOSELY ON A LOT OF ISSUES, NOT
JUST NATURAL RESOURCES ISSUES
BUT THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR
THEMSELVES AND THEIR MEMBERS
NEED AND THE ADVANTAGES OF JOBS,
HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND WEALTH
CREATION.
IT’S THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES AND
YOU WOULD THINK AS A MATTER OF
JUSTICE, WE HEAR ABOUT JUSTICE
AND EQUITY ON THE LEFT YET
HERE’S A SITUATION WHERE THEY
SEEM TO HAVE THROWN THOSE
PRIORITIES OUT THE WINDOW AND
REPLACING IT WITH OIL IN THE
GROUND.
LARRY: NATIVE AMERICANS ARE
CASUALTY OR ON FOSSIL FUEL.
A LOT OF RUMORS THAT SAUDI’S AND
OPEC PLUS INCLUDING RUSSIA ARE
GOING TO CUT OIL PRODUCTION IN
ORDER TO RAISE PRICES.
WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE
PRAGMATIC OBVIOUSLY FOR THE
POLITICAL FUTURE HERE IN THE
SHORT RUN BUT THE DEMOCRATS AND
WOULD NOT BE GREAT FOR THE
OVERALL ECONOMY.
RIGHT NOW OIL PRICES ARE HIGHER
THAN THEY USED TO BE A LOWER
THAN RECENTLY.
I THINK THEY SETTLED IN AN AREA
MOST PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN A BREATH
AND ARE ABLE TO FILTER CAR AGAIN
BUT IF THAT HAPPENS, FIRST OF
ALL, SO MUCH FOR JOE BIDEN
TRANSACTING WITH THE VALLEYS AND
TRYING TO USE THE INFLUENCE OF
HIS BULLY PULPIT WITH THE WORLD
MARKETPLACE BUT WHAT WE OUGHT TO
DO IS BRING PRICES DOWN BY
PRODUCING MORE HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THAT ONCE?
WORKED QUITE WELL AND BROUGHT
PRICES DOWN FOR THE CONSUMER
WHICH BRINGS PRICES DOWN FOR
EVERYTHING AND EFFECTS ENERGY
WHICH ENERGY AFFECTS EVERYTHING.
WE DON’T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE
SAUDIS OR RUSSIANS BECAUSE WE
HAVE THE RESOURCES HERE IN THE
U.S., WE JUST NEED TO UNLEASH
THE INNOVATORS.
LARRY: IT SHOWS YOU PITFALLS OF
ENERGY DEPENDENCE.
WE’VE GONE FROM INDEPENDENCE TO