MANY GRIEVED AFTER THE SHOOTING IN ORLANDO,
HOWEVER THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PASTORS AND RELIGIOUS
LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO TOOK IT AS A MOMENT OF
CELEBRATION BECAUSE THERE WERE DOZENS, 49,
PEOPLE THAT WERE SLAUGHTERED DURING THIS MASS SHOOTING.
WHY WERE THEY CELEBRATING?
BECAUSE VICTIMS WERE PART OF
THE LGBT COMMUNITY.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES OF HOW EAGER HE
JUST THEIR STATEMENTS WERE.
THE FIRST PASTOR WAS A SACRAMENTO PASTOR, ROGER
GIMENEZ.
HE SAID, "ARE YOU SAID THAT 50 PEDOPHILES WERE KILLED TODAY?
I THINK THAT IS GREAT, I THINK THAT HOLDS SOCIETY.
I THINK ORLANDO FLORIDA IS A LITTLE SAFER TONIGHT.
I WISH THE GOVERNMENT WOULD ROUND THEM ALL UP, PUT THEM
UP AGAINST THE WALL, PUT A FIRING ROUND AROUND THEM
AND BLOW THEIR BRAINS OUT."
FOR SOME REASON THERE IS A PORTION OF THE COUNTRY THAT
BELIEVE THAT FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE ONLY PART OF ISLAM?
THERE ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS IN EVERY RELIGION.
YOU MIGHT ARGUE THAT IT'S ONLY THE MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALIST
THAT CARRY OUT GUN VIOLENCE.
FUNDAMENTALISTS OF ALL RELIGION ARE INCREDIBLY DESTRUCTIVE
TO SOCIETY.
YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHY WE ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF THOUGHT.
THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT LEADS UNSTABLE PEOPLE TO GO
OUT AND CARRY OUT ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
>>THAT IS RIGHT.
THIS BOILS MY BLOOD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
TO HEAR THIS PASTOR, OR ANYONE WHO IS USING RELIGION AS A
CRUTCH, AS THEIR GUYS TO BE ABLE TO CONDEMN OTHERS FOR
LEADING IMMORAL STYLES OF LIFE.
BUT THEY ARE THE ONES SPEWING HATRED, WISHING DEATH UPON
OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR SHEER IGNORANCE.
WHEN YOU ARE IGNORANT, THAT IS GOING TO LEAD TO HATE,
INTOLERANCE.
WHEN YOU COME FROM A PLACE OF KNOWLEDGE AND EMPATHY, THAT
INSPIRES TOLERANCE.
WHY CAN'T WE TEACH THAT?
HE IS A PIECE OF SHIT.
THIS GUY IS A PIECE OF SHIT.
>>HE IS A PIECE OF SHIT.
WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ORLANDO SHOOTER AND ABOUT
HOW HE WAS IN THE CLOSET HIMSELF.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT SOMEONE WHO SPEWS THIS KIND OF HATRED
AGAINST THE GAY COMMUNITY, IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HIS
SEXUALITY.
>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE IGNORANT
PASTORS AND ISLAMIC RADICALS THAT WANT TO WIPE OUT GAY
PEOPLE?
THEY ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS SOME OF THESE RADICALS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CLAN, ISIS, AND ALL THESE OTHER RADICAL
GROUPS.
THIS TO ME IS THE SAME SPEECH, BUT IT IS NOT GETTING THE
SAME RESPECT THAT
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS.
I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
OFTENTIMES THERE WILL BE DEBATES ABOUT WHICH RELIGIOUS
DOCTRINE IS THE MOST VIOLENT.
PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW ISLAM, IF YOU TAKE THE
LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE DOCTRINE, YOU SEE HOW
VIOLENT AND CRAZY IT IS.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ANOTHER PREACHER, STEPHEN ANDERSON,
TALKING ABOUT THE ORLANDO SHOOTING AND TALKING ABOUT
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
TAKE A LOOK.
>>THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE ARE 50
LESS PEDOPHILES IN THIS WORLD.
THESE HOMOSEXUALS ARE A BUNCH OF DISGUSTING PERVERTS AND
PEDOPHILES.
THAT IS WHO WAS A VICTIM HERE, A GROUP OF DISGUSTING
HOMOSEXUALS AT A GAY BAR.
THE BAD NEWS IS THAT THIS IS NOW GOING TO BE USED TO PUSH
FOR GUN CONTROL WHERE LAW-ABIDING, NORMAL
AMERICANS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS.
HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH IN LEVITICUS 13.
IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR SOMEONE TO JUST SHOOT UP THE PLACE,
THAT IS NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS.
THESE PEOPLE ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED ANYWAY, BUT
THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AS IN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN
EXECUTED BY A RIGHTEOUS GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD HAVE
TRIED THEM, CONVICTED THEM, AND SAW THEM EXECUTED.
IN LEVITICUS 20:13,
HE PUT THE DEATH PENALTY ON MURDER AND HOMOSEXUALITY.
THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
>> WOW.
>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT, HE SAID THAT.
HE IS A PREACHER IN ARIZONA.
HE TALKED ABOUT HIS OWN RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE.
I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS NOT TO SAY CHRISTIANS ARE
WORSE THAN MUSLIMS, OR MUSLIMS ARE WORSE THAN CHRISTIANS.
FUNDAMENTALISTS OF ALL RELIGIONS ARE DANGEROUS PEOPLE WHEN
THEY ARE ADVOCATING HATE AND INCITING VIOLENCE AND DEATH.
YOU ARE A BAD PERSON, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS.
THAT MAN IS A DANGEROUS PERSON IF YOU ARE INTERPRETING
THIS IN THE LITERAL SENSE.
>>I HOPE HE DOESN'T OWN ANY GUNS.
>>BUT THESE ARE MEN OF GOD.
I GUARANTEE THEY OWN GUNS.
>>LET ME ADD, WHILE FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE TERRIBLE
PEOPLE, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS IN EVERY RELIGION THAT ARE GOOD.
CATHOLIC RELIGION IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
I AM NOT TOUCHING THE MUSLIM RELIGION SO PEOPLE DON'T
GET CRAZY.
THERE WAS A CATHOLIC BISHOP WHO RESPONDED TO THESE PRIESTS
WHO CAME OUT CELEBRATING THE FACT THAT 49 PEOPLE DIED.
WHAT HE SAID WAS INCREDIBLE AND I LOVE HIM FOR IT.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD RELIGIOUS PERSON.
>>SO HAPPY THAT YOU ENDED WITH THAT.
>> YOU CAN'T JUDGE.
JUDGE YOURSELF.
>>BUT THEY WILL PICK CERTAIN PARTS OF THE BIBLE.
>>OF COURSE.
THEY ADAPTED TO WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THE MESSAGE.
THE GUY LOOKED LIKE AN IDIOT HIMSELF.
>> IT'S EMBARRASSING TO GO OUT THERE AND SPEW THAT KIND OF
HATE.
HOW YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND EXECUTED FOR
DOING WHAT?
>>HE IS SO DELUSIONAL.
DID YOU SEE HOW HIS CHEST WAS PUFFED UP?
HE IS SO STRONG IN HIS CONVICTION THAT HE WALKS
AROUND AND HE THINKS THAT HE IS RIGHT.
THAT PISSES ME OFF.
WHY CAN'T I JUST LAUGH AT IT?
HE IS SO IGNORANT, HE IS CLEARLY DELUSIONAL.
I WISH I COULD GO UP TO HIM AND SAY I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.
TO THEM THAT IS THE WORST INSULT YOU CAN SAY.
I WISH IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME BECAUSE I KNOW THE
REPERCUSSIONS.
THIS HATE SPEECH INFLUENCES PEOPLE AND IT DOES HAVE ACTION.
THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES AND INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL PAY.
>>THE SAD THING IS, THESE TWO PREACHERS, THERE ARE MORE
PEOPLE THAT THINK THIS WAY AND THAT IS THE AUDIENCE THEY
ARE SPEAKING TO, AND THAT IS WHERE THE VIOLENCE IS GOING
TO END UP COMING FROM.
IT'S THE SAME AS RADICALS AND ANY OTHER RELIGION, THERE IS NO
BLURRED LINE OR DIFFERENCE.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE WE TALK ABOUT ñ
INSTEAD WE HAVE OUR OWN VERSION OF IT.