I’M NORMALLY SO HAPPY TO DO YOU, RICHARD, BUT TODAY, NOT SO MUCH.
MALCOLM, I WANT TO GO TO YOU
FIRST.
FIRST. AUTHORITIES SAY THAT THE MEN WHO
WERE CHARGED HERE DID NOT APPEAR
ON ANY TERRORISM WATCH LIST.
NO AGENCY HAD INFORMATION ABOUT
THEM.
THEM. HOW COULD THAT BE?
>> VERY SIMPLE.
THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM
IN THE GLOBAL COUNTERTERRORISM
WORLD IN THAT TERRORISTS, AS FAR
AS THEY ARE CONCERNED, ONLY COME
IN ONE REPLACE --FLAVOR -- MUSLI
HE WAS CAUCASIAN AND PART OF THE
FOLLOWERS OF A MASS MURDERER OF
NORWAY WHO SHOT DEAD OVER 80
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.
THEY DO NOT WATCH RIGHT-WING
EXTREMISM AND THE NOW CROPPING
UP EVERYWHERE.
UP EVERYWHERE. >> THE WHITE NATIONALIST
MANIFESTO THAT WAS POSTED ONLINE
BEFORE THE ATTACKS, YOU SAY
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS
THAT RING OBVIOUS BELLS.
REMIND OUR AUDIENCE WHENEVER
PEOPLE SAY A NATIONALIST IS THE
SAME THING AS A PATRIOT.
NO, IT’S NOT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. HE WAS A WHITE NATIONALIST.
THAT IS WHAT HE WAS.
WE MEAN THAT IN THE SENSE THAT
HE ONLY WANTED WHITE PEOPLE IN
HIS NATION.
HIS NATION. THAT IS WHAT WHITE NATIONALISM
MEAN.
MEAN. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET ONLY
WHITE PEOPLE IN A NATION?
THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT TO THESE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THE ENTIRE MANIFESTO IS ABOUT
THIS.
THIS. OF COURSE, THERE IS TROLLING IN
THERE, THERE IS STUFF IN THERE
BECAUSE HE WAS SO RARED ON LIFE.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
HOW?
HOW? WHERE?
WHERE? >> HE POSTED THIS MANIFESTO ON
AN EXTREMEST WEBSITE WHERE
ANONYMOUS PEOPLE CAN POST WHAT
THEY WANT AND HE WAS CHEERED ON
AFTER HE POSTED THIS THING
OPINION THIS IS THE BLIND SPOT
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT?
THIS STUFF IS NOT MONITORED WITH
THE SAME SORT OF RIGOR AND
BECAUSE IT’S A POLITICAL ISSUE,
IT’S BECOME A POLITICAL ISSUE
FOR REALLY NO REASON BUT THESE
PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING TERRORIST
ACT OVER AND OVER AGAIN USING
THE SAME PLATFORMS, GETTING
RADICALIZED BY THESE SAME
ALGORITHMS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE TECH COMPANIES.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW
THAT ON YOUTUBE, PROBABLY NOT,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> NEVER.
>> NEVER. >> TECH COMPANIES CAN DO THIS
AND STOP THIS BUT THEY HAVE MADE
IT A POLITICAL ISSUE THAT IT
REALLY ISN’T.
REALLY ISN’T. >> HOLD ON.
IN ADDITION TO THE MANIFESTO THE
ATTACKS WERE STREAMED ON
FACEBOOK LIVE AND POSTED ON
YOUTUBE.
YOUTUBE. FACEBOOK EXECUTIVES SAYING IT’S
TRYING TO CONNECT TO YOUR HIGH
SCHOOL FRIENDS?
SCHOOL FRIENDS? PLEASE.
PLEASE. >> IT WASN’T UP LONG AND THEY
TOOK IT DOWN.
WHEN ISIS KILLED A FRENCH POLICE
OFFICER THEY STREAMED IT ONLINE
AND CRIMES AND MURDERS POSTED
ONLINE.
ONLINE. THIS ATTACKER WANTED MAXIMUM
EXPOSURE.
EXPOSURE. HE WAS PUTTING OUT HIS MANIFESTO
FULL OF WHITE EXTREMIST AND
HATE.
HATE. YOU NOTICE ONE LITTLE IMAGE WE
SHOWED.
SHOWED. WE SHOWED THE ACTUAL GUN THAT
WAS USED.
WAS USED. DID YOU NOTICE WRITING ALL OVER
THE BEGUN THEY BLURTED IT OUT?
HE WAS WRITING NAMES OF OTHER
WHITE EXTREMISTS, SLOGANS ON THE
ACTUAL WEAPON AS HE WAS USING
THIS TO CARRY OUT HIS MISSION OF
DESTINY.
DESTINY. SO THIS WAS SOMEONE WHO PLANNED
THIS ATTACK, DRESSED HIMSELF FOR
COMBAT WITH BALLISTIC GOGGLES
ON, COVERING HIS WEAPON WITH THE
JARGON OF THE PHILOSOPHY, AND
THEN WENT INTO THIS MOSQUE AND
STARTED SHOOTING.
STARTED SHOOTING. HE WANTED EXPOSURE SO, YOU KNOW,
HE IS GOING TO TRY TO PUT IT
ONLINE AND WRITE HIS MANIFESTO.
HE WANTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD AND
HAVE A WHITE REVOLUTION AGAINST
MUSLIMS AND BASIC CORPS OF THIS
MANIFESTO THAT NONWHITE PEOPLE
ARE BREEDING OUT THE WHITE
PEOPLE, THEREFORE YOU NEED TO
ELIMINATE THEM.
ELIMINATE THEM. >> THAT IS WHY HE POSTED THIS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA MAXIMUM EXPOSURE IS
THE POINT HERE?
>> YES.
>> YES. HE WANTED TO EMULATE THE SAME
BEHAVIORS FROM THE NORWEGIAN WHO
WENT TO AN ISLAND AND SHOT 69
CHILDREN DEAD AND HIS ACTUAL
STATED PURPOSE WAS TO ELIMINATE
THE NEXT GENERATION OF NORWEGIAN
LIBERAL LEADERSHIP.
LIBERAL LEADERSHIP. THIS MAN IS REVERED AROUND THE
WORLD.
WORLD. HE ALSO WROTE A MANIFESTO TELL
THEM -- I CONTEND WITH THE
PHRASE WHITE NATIONALIST.
THIS IS A WHITE
INTERNATIONALIST, YOU KNOW,
WHITE SUPREMACIST INTERNATIONAL.
>> IN THE --
>> THEY DO --
>> FROM CANADA WHO WAS THE
MOSQUE SHOOTER.
MOSQUE SHOOTER. HIS WEAPONS, WHAT HE HAD WRITTEN
ON THOSE WEAPONS WERE GREAT
GENERALS AND LEADERS WHO HAD
FOUGHT THE MUSLIM WORLD AT
THE -- AT VIENNA AND ISTANBUL
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE
SYMBOLS THAT WERE WRITTEN ON HIS
WEAPONS AND HIS MAGAZINE IN
ORDER TO FOSTER THIS BELIEF
THAT -- HE SAID IT IN HIS
MANIFESTO.
MANIFESTO. THE WHITE RACE IS BEING
ELIMINATED BY, QUOTE/UNQUOTE
INNOVATORS.
INNOVATORS. HE VIEWS THIS AS AN EXTENSION OF
A COUNTERCRUSADE AND HE SAID
SPECIFICALLY TO WAKE UP THE
WORLD.
WORLD. HE MENTIONED THE UNITED STATES
IN TRYING TO DIVIDE US ALONG THE
SECOND AMENDMENT.
SECOND AMENDMENT. >> GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU TALKED
ABOUT EARLIER.
ABOUT EARLIER. A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM.
WHEN WHITE PEOPLE CARRY OUT
CRIMES IT’S CALLED HATE CRIME.
WHEN MUSLIMS DO IT IT’S CALLED
TERRORISM AND A LOT MORE
RESOURCES HAVE GONE INTO
FIGHTING ACTIVISM THAT HAVE GONE
INTO FIGHTING HATE CRIMES.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
YOU PUT A TWEET OUT THIS MORNING
WHERE YOU WRITE THE FOLLOWING.
PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THIS. >> YEP.
>> YEP. I WAS SCOFFED AT BY AN EXECUTIVE
AT YOUTUBE.
AT YOUTUBE. >> DON’T LAUGH.
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED.
>> LOOK.
>> LOOK. WE HAVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN
TALKED TO THESE COMPANIES ABOUT
THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE
MIDTERMS.
MIDTERMS. A GIP WHOUY WHO SHOT THE SYNAGOG
PITTSBURGH.
PITTSBURGH. I SAID INVADERS ARE COMING AND
COMING THROUGH THE CARAVAN AND
BACKED BY THIS JEWISH TRYING TO
TAKE OUT THE WHITE HOUSE RACE.
WE TALKED TO THE TECH COMPANIES
AND YOUTUBE.
AND YOUTUBE. >> WHAT DO THEY SAY TO YOU?
>> THEY ARE SAYING "WE ARE
WORKING ON IT."
>> I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE
WORKING ON PART.
>> THAT IS THE THING.
YOUTUBE PUT OUT A STATEMENT
TODAY SAYING, WE ARE REALLY
WORKING TO TAKE DOWN THE VIDEO
OF THE SHOOTING.
THAT IS GREAT.
THAT IS WONDERFUL.
BUT IT’S THE MONTHS BEFORE THE
SHOOTING WHERE THESE PEOPLE GO
DOWN RABBIT HOLES AND MAYBE
START AT RACIST AND END UP AS
EXTREMISTS.