Hi, Scott.
How are you?
I think I've literally just turned the phone off because in London it is.
Oh, my gosh.
It's a hundred degrees or something.
It was 31 today.
It's going to be 35 on Tuesday. On Monday.
So, you know, and I don't have air conditioning because it's London.
Because it's London.
All right, guys, congratulations on the show.
Thank you. Thank you.
It's one of those that I really didn't.
I had to try and stop myself from bingeing all of it
because there's so many secrets and so many things.
And I'm just like, I like to watch.
I like the whole old school one a week thing.
Are you guys
you do you like to blitz all the stuff that you watch
or do you like to take your time?
I'm not very good binge, you know, because I'm not very good at that still.
So I probably could watch a couple of episodes.
I have to say I've never watched a whole show in one go.
Like I've never just sat and watched something for like 8 hours.
But I know like something like this because it is a thriller.
I can see that, you know, their
every episode at the end of it, you desperately want to know
what's happening next, so maybe I would binge surface for sure.
Like I said, I'm I'm similar.
I feel like I find it too overwhelming.
And also there is this thing I feel is strictly whenever I have been something
you look for days later, you can't remember a single thing
about the show because you just you know, you've been in this vortex about it.
So I'm glad that it's coming out once a week.
And yeah, people people have to wait to find out to get all the answers.
Yeah, I think they call that the stranger stranger things effect, given
how everyone around the world was watching it all on the same day.
Yeah. Oliver, I wanted to ask.
I wanted to ask you, do you have a deal with the devil?
And he's come round to collect, given that you've been given
you've done so many dark roles recently.
Is a comedy somewhere in your future?
I know.
What does that say about me?
It's probably. It's quite dark, isn't it?
I have absolutely no idea as well
why they keep coming and finding me.
But I do. I do.
I do think that there is something
really interesting in that kind of these
these types of men, specifically someone like James,
where there's so much at odds and there's so much
being hidden and there's so much
and and what I loved about him is that it's an audience
will decide how they feel and that will consistently shift.
And so I quite like the idea of,
you know, we were talking yesterday about the idea
of someone putting a coat around someone's shoulders can be read
as comforting or can be right is controlling.
And so that's kind of a great thing about this show
is that you all the characters you keep on changing
your your perception of, you know, your perception of them keeps on changing.
So hopefully with James we go on a journey
with it of of is he the devil
you know
I give you a few playing someone like Sophie and having
so much mystery around here do you as a as an actor,
do you find yourself wanting not to read the scripts,
given that you kind of want to find out what's going on
at the same time because it's time to step out. Yes.
He was saying, yeah, it's kind of a double edged sword that you want to know.
You also want to keep some of the some of the mystery back.
Yeah, well, she is the mystery that is kind of the the whole thing.
And I mean, for me, I didn't have the luxury of not reading the scripts
because I was on board as an executive producer quite early on.
So, you know, being a part of the the development and the conversations around,
you know, the writer's room from the outlines of the script
to like the actual execution was fun to be part of that process.
So yeah, I didn't have the luxury of ignorance on this one.
I, you know, just had to act like I didn't know
how to. Even though
you had been trained and given you've been a marvel.
Well, that's good training for you.
Go. Yeah, yeah.
And obviously the two of you have this
relationship, you know, as you go on, you find out secret something else.
Was there something that helped you guys kind of break the tension?
Was there some some music, some karaoke, some some little shoulder dance action,
a few dance moves with creepin to kind of break the intensity
every now and again and
in some of the early episodes,
there was there was there was really oh,
there was there was a moment though, when we were around sort of episode six
or seven where it felt every single day we were going to set.
And it was so intense, especially for you, like, oh my gosh.
I mean, yeah, it got it, got it, got quite it got quite dark around the dark
the dark days of like August, September time of those
they were bleak.
Bleak.
It's a great story for whatever gets you guys.
Congrats on the show again.
It's really fantastic