BLOOMBERG TO REMAIN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
THE CONVERSATION. JOINING OUR FORMER SPOKESMAN.
WHAT SAY YOU, MY FRIEND.
>> WELL, I THINK ELIZABETH
WARREN’S NIGHT ENDED AND ONE OF
THOSE PEOPLE PROBABLY SHOULD
HAVE BEEN DROPPING OUT.
LOOK, ELIZABETH WARREN IS FROM
NEIGHBORING MASSACHUSETTS.
NEIGHBORING MASSACHUSETTS. IT’S LITERALLY A BOSTON SUBURB.
AND SHE GOT 6%.
MIGHT AS WELL BE MASSACHUSETTS.
SALEM, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
SHE’S A SENATOR FROM THE
NEIGHBORING STATE.
NEIGHBORING STATE. AND I THINK THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR’S
NIGHT REMINDED ME OF A NIGHT I
SPENT WITH JOHN IN 2012 WITH
JOHN HUNTSMAN WHERE WE HAD A
NICE SURGE THE FINAL DAYS FROM
FIFTH TO THIRD AND A WEEK LATER
WE RAN OUT OF MONEY.
IT FEELS LIKE A SUGAR HIGH TO
ME.
ME. PETE BUTTIGIEG IS THE CLEAR
ALTERNATIVE.
ALTERNATIVE. I THINK PEOPLE IN NEW YORK DON’T
GIVE THE APPRECIATION THEY
DESERVE FOR HOW RIDICULOUSLY
AMAZING AND ASTOUNDING IT IS
THAT AN OUT MARRIED GAY MAN IS
LEADING THE DELEGATE RACE
BECAUSE IT’S SO NORMAL.
BUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, THIS DECADE
BOTH CANDIDATES WERE AGAINST IT.
PETE WAS IN THE CLOSET, I WAS IN
THE CLOSET.
THE CLOSET. LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
>> LET ME ASK YOU.
I HAVE 5,000 QUESTIONS BUT I
UNDERSTAND WE HAVE 20 MINUTES.
WHY WASN’T BUTTIGIEG’S WIN IN
IOWA A BIGGER BANNER HEADLINE?
I THOUGHT IT -- EVEN THOUGH IT
TOOK A FEW DAYS TO FIND OUT HE
WON, WHY WAS IT AS BIG A DEAL
THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WON IOWA
THIS YEARS A IT WAS THAT BARACK
OBAMA WON 2008?
>> ONE WAS THE IOWA CAUCUS
DEBACLE AND THE OTHER HE TALKED
ABOUT THE FIRST HALF HOUR IN THE
SHOW AND OVER THE PAST WEEK.
BUT HONESTLY THE THIRD REASON IS
I THINK PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA, THE
MEDIA GATE KEEPERS, THIS IS OLD
NEWS.
NEWS. AND IN D.C. AND IN LOS ANGELES,
BEING GAY IS LIKE NOT A BIG DEAL
AT ALL ANYMORE.
BEING GAY MARRIED AT ALL IS NOT
A BIG DEAL ANYMORE.
BUT IN DEBUK, IOWA, IN SIOUX
CITY, IOWA, PETE BUTTIGIEG WON?
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT DON’T HAVE MARRIED
GAY ROLE MODELS TO WHOM THIS WAS
A MASSIVE DEAL.
I WOULDN’T WANT TO COMPARE BUT
FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS -- THIS IS
ASTONISHING.
ASTONISHING. >> IT WASN’T THE EXPECTED
OUTCOME.
OUTCOME. IT WAS AS UNEXPECTED AS OBAMA’S.
>> IN ADDITION TO THE REASON TIM
SAID.
SAID. I THINK THE FACT CAUCUSES BEING
A MESS AND THEY’RE NOT JUST
BEING A CLEAR, ON THE NIGHT
HERE’S THE WINNER.
>> OR THE NEXT NIGHT.
>> AND NIGHT AFTER THAT.
THE FACT THEY MOVED TO THE
SYSTEM WHERE THEY REVEAL THE
POPULAR VOTE HAS ALLOWED BERNIE
SANDERS TO RUN AROUND SAYING WE
WON THE CAUCUSES BECAUSE WE GOT
THE MOST VOTES.
STRICTLY SPEAKING, IT’S NOT
TRUE.
TRUE. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR 1991
DELEGATES TO WIN THE STATE.
YOU CAN MAKE A TALKING POINT OUT
OF WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE BUT
I THINK TAVLHEY’VE DONE AN
EFFECTIVE JOB MUDDYING THE
WATER.
WATER. AND THAT ALONG WITH THE STATE OF
THE UNION AND DESPITE THE
DISPARITY OF HOW BIG A DEAL IT
IS, THOSE THINGS, THE TRUMP, THE
ACQUITTAL HAPPENING.
ACQUITTAL HAPPENING. AND THE CAUCUSES WERE A METSZ
MESS AND NOW DUAL RESULTS.
ALL THAT CONTRIBUTED TO NOT THE
CLEAR, CLEAN NIGHT OF THE
CAUCUSES, THIS IS THE WINNER YOU
NEED IF YOU’RE GOING TO GET THAT
WAVE OF MEDIA ATTENTION WHERE
LOCAL, INTERNATIONAL, DIGITAL,
TRADITIONAL MEDIA ALL OVER THE
WORLD ARE SCREAMING OUT "THE
WINNER."
WINNER." >> AND HE’S STILL THE DELEGATE
LEADER AND PEOPLE ARE STILL
TALKING ABOUT AMY KLOBUCHAR.
BUT HE’S THE DELEGATE LEADER, AN
OPENLY GAY MAN, AN OPENLY GAY
MAYOR OF A MIDICIZE DOWN AND I
THINK IT’S CULTURAL AND
POLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE GETTING
SHORT TRIPPED.
SHORT TRIPPED. >> HE’S ALSO UPSET BERNIE
SANDERS IN BOTH STATES.
BERNIE SANDERS SHOULD HAVE WON
IOWA RUNNING AWAY AND NEW
HAMPSHIRE RUNNING AWAY.
HE’S DONE NEITHER.
SO PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS
CAPITALIZED ON I’M NOT SURE BUT
HE’S CERTAINLY HAVING THE
GREATEST IMPACT ON THE PERSON WE
THOUGHT WAS THE FRONTRUNNER.
>> IS STILL THE FRONTRUNNER.
HE’S IN VERY GOOD POSITION,
WHICH IS WHY THIS SHOULD BE
PETE’S MOMENT BECAUSE I THINK
BERNIE IS WELL SITUATED, IF