YOU HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH JELANI COBB ON THAT AND
BROADER CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES.
A LOT TO COME IN TONIGHT’S SHOW.
WE BEGIN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTSES
IN WHAT IS TO BE CLEAR, THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT CONGRESSIONAL
SIGNIFICANT CONGRESSIONAL HEARING OF THIS YEAR IF NOT THE
TRUMP ERA.
TRUMP ERA. BOB MUELLER TESTIFIES NEXT WEEK.
TONIGHT THERE ARE CLEAR SIGNS
TRUMP’S TEAM IS WORRIED AND
TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF WHATEVER
BOB MUELLER WILL SAY.
BILL SBRAR DISMISSING IT AS A
SPECTACLE AND NOW DONALD TRUMP’S
CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER CASTING
ANY IF YOU TESTIMONY FROM
MUELLER THAT HASN’T HAPPENED YET
AS A LET DOWN.
>>> MY SENSE IS THAT BOB IS
GOING TO TESTIFY, HE’S GOING TO
STICK TO THE, HE SAID HIS REPORT
IS HIS TESTIMONY.
AND NOW I EXPECT HIS TESTIMONY
IS GOING TO BE HIS REPORT.
I THINK HE’S GOING TO STICK TO
THE REPORT.
THE REPORT. IN THAT SENSE, I THINK IT’S
GOING TO BE THE GREAT LET DOWN.
>> DONALD TRUMP’S LAWYER MAKES
TWO CLAIMS.
TWO CLAIMS. ONE IS AN OPINION, EVERYONE HAS
A RIGHT TO REVIEW THIS HEARING
BUT REVIEWING IT AND STATING IT
OPINIONS SIGHT UNSEEN IS NOT
VERY CREDIBLE.
VERY CREDIBLE. THE OTHER IS FACTUAL IN NATURE,
THE ASSERTION HIS TESTIMONY WILL
STICK TO THE REPORT.
FACT CHECK, AND FACT CHECKS
DON’T ALWAYS END WITH SOMEONE
BEING WRONG.
BEING WRONG. JAY SEKULOW IS CORRECT ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. HERE AT "THE BEAT" WIIG SCOURED
THE 60 PLUS TIMES MUELLER
ADDRESSED CONGRESS.
ADDRESSED CONGRESS. HE DOES STICK TO HIS PLAN AND
THE FACTS.
THE FACTS. HE AVOIDS THEATRICS AND FOCUSES
TESTIMONY ON THE PUBLIC
INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS AND HE
TENDS TO SWAT AWAY QUESTIONS
THAT DEPEND MORE SENSITIVE
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. SO I’M TELLING YOU TONIGHT OUR
REPORTING SUGGESTS MUELLER WILL
STICKING TO THAT SAME PLAN NEXT
WEEK AND QUESTIONS DESIGNED TO
GET HIM BEYOND THE MUELLER’S
REPORT CAREFUL BALANCING ACT WIL
PROBABLY GET THE MUELLER
TREATMENT.
TREATMENT. HE CAN JUST QUOTE FROM THE
REPORT IN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS,
PART OF WHAT HE DID ON HIS ONLY
PUBLIC REMARKS ON THIS PROBE TO
DATE.
DATE. >> ASSET FORTH IN THE REPORT
AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION IF WE
HAD HAD OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE
PRESIDENT CLEARLY DID NOT COMMIT
A CRIME, WE WOULD HAVE SAID SO.
>> DEMOCRATS ARE WORKING TO TURN
UP THE HEAT ON TEAM TRUMP BEFORE
THIS HEARING BEGINS REVEALING
PLANS TO SUBPOENA SOME OF THE
MUELLER REPORT’S BIGGEST
WITNESSES, GUILTY MIKE FLYNN,
OUSTED ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF
SESSIONS AND OF COURSE,
SON-IN-LAW JARED KUSHNER.
PLUS OTHERS LINKED TO THE HUSH
MOBE PAYMENTS FROM THE 2016
CAMPAIGN WHICH IS PART OF A
CRIME THAT MICHAEL COHEN
CONFESSED TO.
CONFESSED TO. AS THE HOUSE PREPARES FOR THIS
MUELLER STAND OFF, THE ISSUES
HERE ARE BROADER THAN EVEN THAT
NEXT SET OF SUBPOENA SKIRMISHES
OR WHETHER THE HOUSE ULTIMATELY
OPENS A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT
PROBE.
PROBE. I WANT TO TELL YOU TONIGHT, THE
QUESTION IS WHETHER THE MUELLER
HEARINGS WILL FINALLY TAKE UP
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
DOCUMENTS OF THIS ADMITTEDLY
GONZO POLITICAL ERA AND BRING IT
TO LIFE FOR AMERICANS.
BECAUSE THIS REPORT IS DAMNING.
IT IS EXCLUSIVIVE.
IN SOME WAYS IT IS SCARY.
WE’VE READ IT.
I’VE READ IT MORE THAN ONCE.
IT DETAILS A FOREIGN OPERATION
TO KNEECAP OUR DEMOCRACY AS WE
KNOW IT AND ALSO FINDS NO
CHARGEABLE ELECTION CONSPIRACY
BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND IT
ALSO FINDS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COMMITTED
THE CRIME OF OBSTRUCTION MORE
THAN ONCE IN OFFICE.
IT’S IMPORTANT STUFF.
BUT AS WITH ALL THINGS IN
POLITICS AND LIFE, YOU HAVE TO
KNOW ABOUT IT TO CARE ABOUT IT.
MOST AMERICANS HAVEN’T READ THE
REPORT SO THEY DON’T KNOW HOW
STRONG MUELLER’S EVIDENCE IS AND
THAT’S UNDERSTANDABLE.
THAT’S UNDERSTANDABLE. THEY’RE BUSY WITH JOBS AND LIFE.
WHAT IF YOUR JOB IS TO DO
OVERSIGHT OF THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH?
BRANCH? MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVEN’T
READ THIS REPORT EITHER OVER A
DOZEN OPENLY ADMITTED TO
POLITICO THEY DIDN’T SIT DOWN
AND READ THE WHOLE THING.
SOME EVEN HAD THE WHAT’S THE
POINT.
POINT. WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
JOINED THIS BOOK CLUB, THE ONLY
REPUBLICAN TO CALL FOR
IMPEACHMENT, CONGRESSMAN AMASH I
MENTIONED EARLIER LEFT THE PARTY
OVER THIS ISSUE.
HE READ THE MUELLER REPORT AND
HE SAYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS
COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT.
>> PEOPLE AT HOME AREN’T READING
THE MUELLER REPORT.
MOST PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TIME TO
READ A 448-PAGE REPORT.
THEY EXPECT THEIR MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS TO DO THE WORK.
HOW MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DO
YOU THINK HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE
MUELLER REPORT.
MUELLER REPORT. >> PROBABLY LESS THAN 15%.
I’D SAY THAT’S PROBABLY THE CASE
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
>> BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
THAT’S IMPORTANT.
THAT’S IMPORTANT. THERE’S NO GREATER PROOF YOU’RE
UNINTERESTED IN ACTUAL FACTS AS
A POLITICIAN THAN IGNORING THE
EVIDENCE, WHETHER IT’S
REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS TO DON’T
WANT TO KNOW THE CRIMINAL
EVIDENCE AGAINST TRUMP IN THIS
REPORT OR FROM DEMOCRATS WHO
DON’T WANT TO KNOW HOW VIGOROUS
LIS MUELLER INVESTIGATED A
POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AND WROTE
DOWN IN HERE THERE WAS
INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO CHARGE
HIM.
HIM. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ACTING LIKE
THIS PREDATES THIS PRE-TRUMP
ERA.
ERA. AND MAKES US THINK OF FAHRENHEIT
HEIGHT 911 WHICH TOUCHED ON
CONGRESSIONAL IGNORANCE.
CONGRESSIONAL IGNORANCE. JOHN CONYERS ADMITTING THE
PATRIOT ACT PASSED BECAUSE
MEMBERS DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS IN
IT AND DIDN’T READ IT.
>> HOW COULD CONGRESS PASS THIS
ACT WITHOUT EVEN READING IT.
>> SIT DOWN, MY SON.
WE DON’T READ MOST OF THE BILLS.
DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT
WOULD ENTAIL?
WOULD ENTAIL? >> WE DON’T READ MOST OF THE
BILLS.
BILLS. CREDIT HIM FOR HIS HONESTY.
AND MAYBE MOST OF THE BILLS, THE
ONES THAT DON’T PASS, THE ONES
WRITTEN BY ONE PERSON WITH NO
FACT FINDING OR EVIDENCE
INVESTIGATION, MAYBE MOST OF
THOSE BILLS DON’T ALL NEED TO BE
READ BY LINE.
THIS ISN’T MOST BILLS.
WITH THAT, WE TURN TO AN
ANALYSIS OF WHY THIS MUELLER
HEARING HAS THE WHITE HOUSE ON
EDGE.
EDGE. MAYA WILEY, AND FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTOR JOHN FLANNERY.
JOHN, IF THEY HAVEN’T READ IT,
SHOULD THEY READ IT?
AND WILL THEY LEARN SOMETHING AS
WELL AS THE REST OF AMERICA NEXT
WEEK.
WEEK. >> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE FIRED.
WHEN I WAS ON THE HILL DURING
THE STARR REPORT, WE RECEIVED IT
IN SEPTEMBER OF ’98, YES.
AND WE SAT THERE IN SEPARATE
ROOMS AND READ IT COVER TO
COVER.
COVER. AND WE HAD SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS
TALKING ABOUT IT IN GREAT
DETAIL.
DETAIL. SO I CAN’T IMAGINE A GREATER
FAILURE FOR A CONGRESS THAN TO
DECIDE TO PROTECT IT AGAINST THE
USURP PARTICIPATION OF ITS POWER
BY THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE
CONTEMPLATED IN THE 1787
CONSTITUTION THAT WAS CONCERNED
THAT A PRESIDENT WITH A MONARCH
CAL BENT WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT
WE’RE DEALING WITH NOW AND
THEY’RE NOT EVEN READING THE
FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
THAT’S A SHAME AND DISGRACE.
I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY OTHER
WAY TO PUT IT.
>> MAYA, THE WAY WE’VE HEARD IT
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AS A SHOWED
IS HEY, BECAUSE IT’S ONLY GOING
TO BE BASED ON THE MUELLER
REPORT, IT IS THEREFORE A LET
DOWN.
DOWN. IS THAT TRUE.
>> THAT’S WHAT THEY HOPE.
I THINK WE HEARD FROM WILLIAM
BARR HE KNOWS IT’S NOT TRUE.
THAT’S WHY HE WANTED TO POUR
COLD WATER OVER IT, CALL IT A
SPECTACLE AND ALSO SORT OF
SIGNAL TO BOB MUELLER HEY, WE
GOT YOUR BACK IF YOU DON’T WANT
TO DO THIS.
THE REALITY IS, THEY ALL KNOW AS
THE REST OF US DO WHEN ROBERT
MUELLER GAVE THAT VERY BRIEF
PRESS CONFERENCE AND SIMPLY SAID
ESSENTIALLY WHAT HIS FINDINGS
FROM THE REPORT WERE, YOU SAW A
BUMP IN THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS
WHO WERE NOW MORE WILLING TO
SUPPORT SOME FORM OF IMPEACHMENT
INVESTIGATION AND THAT’S BECAUSE
FOR MANY, IT BECAME MUCH CLEARER
THAT WHAT WILLIAM BARR TOLD US
THE REPORT SAID WAS NOT THE SAME
THING THAT THEY WERE HEARING
FROM ROBERT MUELLER.
SO WHAT IS CRITICAL HERE ARE TWO
THINGS.
THINGS. ONE, THAT THEY WILL PAY
ATTENTION BECAUSE ROBERT MUELLER
WILL SAY IT HIMSELF.
IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE
EMBELLISHED.
EMBELLISHED. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ SOME
OF THESE FACTS TO REALIZE HOW
DISTURBING AND SHOCKING THEY ARE
IN PARTICULAR ON OBSTRUCTION
ALTHOUGH NOT ONLY ON
OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. AND SECONDLY, CONGRESS HAS TO IN
ORDER TO HAVE ITS EFFECTIVE
SUBPOENA FIGHTS LAY THE
FOUNDATION FROM ROBERT MUELLER
IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
THE EVIDENCE HE FOUND WHY THEY
NEED SUBPOENAS TO HEAR FROM
THESE WITNESSES THEMSELVES.
SO THEY ALSO HAVE A LEGAL JOB TO
DO HERE IN TERMS OF HAVING
MUELLER TESTIFY.
MUELLER TESTIFY. >> JOHN, TACK A LISTEN TO SOME
OF THE REPORTING WE’VE DONE AS
WE WENT THROUGH THE ARCHIVES
BECAUSE WHEN BOB MUELLER GETS
THE QUESTIONS HE DOESN’T WANT
ANSWERED, FOR EXAMPLE, BEYOND
THE REPORT OR SPECULATING OR
EVEN BEEFING WITH BARR, HE HAS
SPENT A LIFETIME, 60 HEARINGS WE
COUNTED, DISMISSING THOSE KIND
OF QUESTIONS.
OF QUESTIONS. TAKE A LOOK.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> I HESITATE TO SPECULATE
BECAUSE I HAVE JUST A PIECE OF
THE PUZZLE ALSO.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE
ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.
ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN. >> IN EVERY INVESTIGATION, AND
PARTICULARLY A FAST-MOVING
INVESTIGATION, THERE ARE STEPS
THAT ARE TAKEN THAT MAY OR MAY
MOT WORK OUT.
>> IT’S VERY DIFFICULT TO
GENERALIZE OR TO REACH SOME SORT
OF UNDERSTANDING OR MAKE
PROGRESS WITH THAT
GENERALIZATION.
GENERALIZATION. >> JOHN?
>> JOHN? >> WELL, IT’S HOW YOU QUESTION
ANY WITNESS.
ANY WITNESS. I’VE DEALT WITH WITNESSES AS
YOU’RE SUGGESTING HE MIGHT ACT
NEXT WEEK.
NEXT WEEK. IN HIS CASE, HE CAN’T BE SAID TO
BE SPECULATING AFTER 22 MONTHS
OF INVESTIGATION.
OF INVESTIGATION. HE CAN’T SHIRK A RESPONSIBILITY
AND IT SHOULD BE PUT TO HIM IN
THIS WAY FOR CLEANING UP THE
CONFUSION IN THIS COUNTRY GIVEN
THE MISLEADING STATEMENTS BY
BARR WHO BASICALLY ACTED AS A
MOUTHPIECE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND
DISASSEMBLED THE CONCLUSIONS
THAT HE CAME UP WITH.
NOW, HE CAN’T SAY HE’S A STANDBY
AFTER HE WROTE LETTERS TO BARR
COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT BARR DID.
AND THERE’S ONE LETTER HE WROTE
WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT SAID.
IT SEEMS TO ME AT THE HEARING
WHEN HE’S SITTING THERE, THE
QUESTION IS PUT, YOU SAID SUCH
AND SUCH IN YOUR REPORT.
ISN’T THAT A FACT?
ISN’T THAT PERFECTLY RIGHT AND
QUOTING HIS FOOTNOTES SAYING
THAT CONGRESS HAS THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO GO FORWARD AND
ASKING HIM, DO WE NEED ANY MORE
AS YOU SUGGEST IN YOUR TESTIMONY
TO GO FORWARD WITH IMPEACHMENT.
THAT’S A DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD
BE HAD AND HE SHOULD BE ASKED
ABOUT IN THE SECOND PART OF THE
REPORT HOW HE SAID HIS
INVESTIGATION WAS UNFINISHED AND
IT WAS UNFISHED BECAUSE HE SAID
THE FBI HADN’T DONE A THOROUGH
INVESTIGATION OF THE CRIME THAT
WE KNOW TO BE COLLUSION
TRANSPORTED TO A CRIMINAL
CONSPIRACY BUT THEY NEVER
FINISHED THAT INVESTIGATION.
WHY IS THAT, MR. SPECIAL
COUNSEL?
COUNSEL? WHY DIDN’T YOU DO THAT
INVESTIGATION?
INVESTIGATION? DID BARR TOP YOU?
DID ROSENSTEIN STOP YOU?
GIVE US AN EXPLANATION.
THE COUNTRY DESERVES IT AND
NEEDS TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDN’T
FINISH WHAT YOU WERE TOLD TO DO.
>> THESE ARE BIG QUESTIONS FOR
THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE.
IT ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH IF YOU
BELIEVE THAT JAN FLANNERY IS ON
TO A GOOD LINE OF QUESTIONING,
MAKES YOU WISH SOME OF THE
MEMBERS THAT HAVE COMMITTEE ARE
LISTENING TO YOU, SIR.
WITH THAT IN MIND, STAY WITH ME.
I BRING IN CALIFORNIA
CONGRESSMAN TED LIEU WHO SERVES
ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WHICH
WILL QUESTION MUELLER NEXT WEEK.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, SIR.
>> THANK YOU, ARI.
>> YES OR NO, HAVE YOU READ THE
REPORT.
REPORT. >> I HAVE.
YES OR NO, DO YOU THINK JUSTIN
AMASH IS BASICALLY RIGHT THAT
MOST OF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE
NOT.
NOT. >> I THINK HE’S SOMEWHAT RIGHT.
IT IS A LONG REPORT BUT IF YOU
SIMPLY READ THE EXECUTIVE
SUMMARIES FOR EACH VOLUME, YOU
CAN GET THE GIST OF IT.
I AT LEAST IMPLORE MY COLLEAGUES
TO DO THAT.
>> INTERESTING GIVEN THE
FRAMEWORK WE’VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU’VE
HEARD FROM OUR LAWYERS HERE.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. >> SURE, THE MUELLER REPORT IS
VERY DAMNING.
VERY DAMNING. A FAIR READING SHOWS THE
RUSSIANS ATTACKED US IN 2016,
THERE WAS SOME COLLUSION AND A
LOT OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
WE NEED ROBERT MUELLER TO
HIGHLIGHT THE RELEVANT PORTIONS
OF HIS REPORT.
WE’RE NOT LOOKING FOR A HAIL
MARY.
MARY. WE JUST NEED A FIRST DOWN.
EVERY WEEK WE’RE PROGRESSING
DOWN THE FIELD AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO JULY 17th WHEN HE WAS
PROVIDE A LOT OF THIS
INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AND
YOUR COLLEAGUES GOING TO DO IF
AS WE’VE FOUND HE BASICALLY GOES
OUT OF HIS WAY TO NOT SAY
ANYTHING THAT ISN’T ALREADY
WRITTEN IN THE REPORT?
I’VE JUST MENTIONED WHY I THINK
AS AN EDUCATIONAL MATTER WHAT
EVERYONE’S BLEENS OUT THERE,
IT’S GOOD TO HAVE A FORUM FOR
PEOPLE IN CONGRESS AND AMERICA
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT’S IN THE
REPORT.
REPORT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF HE
SAYS HEY, I’M NOT GOING BEYOND
THE REPORT.
THE REPORT. >> I’M TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.
THIS REPORT HAS A LOT OF VERY
DAMNING EVIDENCE IN IT.
IF HE WOULD HIGH LIE THE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE SECTIONS
HE CAN WALK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THROUGH HOW DONALD TRUMP
ESSENTIALLY COMMITTED MULTIPLE
FELONIES AS PRESIDENT IN
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE. WE’RE TRYING TO GET THE FACT
ISES OF THE MUELLER REPORT OUT
AND BRING THEM TO LIFE.
LOVE THE MUELLER IS A PERFECT
WITNESS TO DO THAT.
>> CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO GIVE
YOU THE BENEFIT OF RESPONDING TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
YOU’RE ON THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE WHICH OVERSEES THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE HE’S OF THE VIEW
HE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT YOU AND
YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO ASK
AND HE KNOW WHAT’S MUELLER’S
ANSWERS ARE AND HE’S DETERMINED
IT’S ALL A SPECTACLE.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> I DON’T THINK THAT SERVES ANY
PURPOSE DRAGGING BOB MUELLER UP
IF HE IN FACT IS GOING TO STICK
TO THE REPORT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY REASON
FOR DOING THAT IS TO CREATE SOME
KIND OF PUBLIC SPECTACLE.
>> YOUR RESPONSE, SIR?
>> SO WHY IS BILL BARR SO SCARED
OF ROBERT MUELLER TESTIFYING?
IT’S BECAUSE MUELLER IS GOING TO
CONTRADICT WHAT BILL BARR DID IN
REPRESENTING THE REPORT TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. ROBERT MUELLER IS GOING TO SHOW
THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF THE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND BILL
BARR WHEN HE REPRESENTED THIS
REPORT HE REALLY FAILED THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT’S WHY I THINK BILL BARR IS
SCARED.
SCARED. >> MAYA WILEY, THE LAST WORD
GOES YOU TO HAVING WALKED US
THROUGH THIS ENTIRE
PRESENTATION.
PRESENTATION. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MOST
IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS WATCHING
WHO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE MUELLER
REPORT WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY
INTERESTED IF NOTHING ELSE TO
SEE HOW HE SOUNDS NEXT WEEK WHEN
WE ACTUALLY WATCH SOMETHING WE
IN OUR REPORTING SAID AT TIMES
MAY BE QUITE DRY AND CAREFUL.
IT’S NOT GOING TO BE ROB MUELLER
SAYING THERE’S ONE MORE THING I
FEATHERWEIGHT TO MENTION HERE,
THE PRESIDENT’S A CROOK.
THAT’S NOT REALLY HOW IT GOES
DOWN.
DOWN. >> THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO WORK
DOES EXACTLY AS JOHN SAID AND AS
REPRESENTATIVE LUE SAID, GETTING
ROBERT MUELLER TO REALLY FOCUS
HIS ATTENTION ON JUST SAY WHAT
THE REPORT SAYS IN KEY PARTS.
IT’S NOT THE 448 PAGES.
IT’S THE YOU SAID THAT THERE
WERE PEOPLE WHO MATERIALLY LIED
AND SOME OF THEM YOU BROUGHT
CHARGES AGAINST.
CHARGES AGAINST. HOW MANY OTHER LIED THAT YOU
DIDN’T BRING CHARGES AGAINST?
I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY -- YOU
CAN ASK THE QUESTION IN A WAY
THAT FOCUSES THE ATTENTION AND
JUST ASKS HIM TO ANSWER A FACT
QUESTION.
QUESTION. AND WALKING THROUGH EACH ONE OF
THOSE TEN PRIMARY INSTANCES OF
DONALD TRUMP ASKING PEOPLE TO
LIE, FABRICATE EVIDENCE, JUST
WALKING THROUGH THOSE IS I THINK
NOT SO DRY.
IT’S PRETTY POWERFUL STUFF.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LISTEN
FOR IS WHAT HE WILL NOT ANSWER
BECAUSE OF ONGOING
INVESTIGATIONS.
INVESTIGATIONS. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. AND THAT’S A REMINDER IN THE
BACK OF THIS THICK, YOU’VE GOT
SEVERAL REFERRALS AND THAT IS A
LEGITIMATE THING BOTH FOR